HC Gannon believes he will return as HC in 2026

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Nfl teams generally block lateral moves. Unless Cooter isn't the playcaller in Indy, he would have to be fired by the Colts or be given an assistant head coach title to get around the restriction, which the Nfl frowns upon.
Coordinators are normally given 3 year contracts. This is JBCs third year with Steichen in Indy. If he hasn't been extended he would be available.
 

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This is not it. SF seems to win quite a few games with backups at key positions.
6 games last year. Point is ANY team can absorb only so many injuries.
I’m not advocating to keep Gannon. It’s more an observation that Bidwill and Monti are going to take in consideration.
 

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6 games last year. Point is ANY team can absorb only so many injuries.
I’m not advocating to keep Gannon. It’s more an observation that Bidwill and Monti are going to take in consideration.
I don’t see how the situations are comparable at all.

Also, those two clowns tend to do the wrong thing.
 

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This is not it. SF seems to win quite a few games with backups at key positions.
Kyle Shanahan has been their coach for 9 seasons. Only 5 of them have a winning record. I googled the losing seasons and the consensus reason to all of the losses is injuries.

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13-3 in third season. 12 wins this season with significant injuries on both sides of the ball.

Injuries plus concrete proof of having some idea what it takes to win is the difference
 

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Not trying to compare. Just making a point that the unusual amount of injuries did contribute to our horrible season. To what degree? Everybody has there view on that.
yes. What proof is their that MOJG have any idea how to compete with the NFC West in any way with a normal amount of injuries?

I say pretty much none
 

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You can argue that every player has potential. It’s another example of being willing to accept mediocrity. They either don’t have enough talent or the staff Monti brought in can’t develop it. The argument isn’t that Monti has missed on every pick or move, is that he has not been able to hit on enough to make this roster competitive. Trying to hold out hope that these guys develop after 2 or 3 years is a great way to consistently be bad.
My argument is these players DO HAVE TALENT, but that injuries to either them or those around them have negatively affected their overall performance. The very last thing you do now is to give up on them or the people that decided to draft them. Just my opinion.
 

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Nope, this hopium is the same as 3 years ago, and is still just hopium. I'm not for the "Well, it's been terrible, but hopefully doing the same thing and expecting different results is the key to success" model.
Not at all the same as 3 years ago. MOJG started from absolute rock bottom and from scratch. They improved every step of the way until injuries 100% derailed their progress. Now is the time to stay the course. There are numerous examples of teams that for a variety of reasons failed miserably in one year only to make the playoffs the following year. No one can predict injuries, but without them, this team can be very good next year.
 

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My argument is these players DO HAVE TALENT, but that injuries to either them or those around them have negatively affected their overall performance. The very last thing you do now is to give up on them or the people that decided to draft them. Just my opinion.
The knee jerk reaction is to clean house. That’s mainly because the terrible ending to this season is the freshest in our mind.
I went into this season hoping but feeling Kyler would fail us.

It seems now more more likely we are going to run this crap back out next year without Petzing. What could go wrong?
 

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Yet you're fine throwing away two years of football and then eating a historically (for the Cards no less) bad third year and signing up for more of the same.
I’m NOT signing up for more of the same. If I felt I was, then I would say totally clean house & move on. I believe that this roster has serious potential and that barring another season of catastrophic injuries, they can be a playoff team.
 
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A leadership who has been unsuccessful for three straight years have never turned it around in year four.
Plus never having a single successful season! Yeah, keep JG for 4th year which will be a losing season and than get rid of him and start in with a new coach after a wasted 2026 season. That is stupid. Makes no sense to keep JG for another season.
 

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A leadership who has been unsuccessful for three straight years have never turned it around in year four.
That’s my point. They haven’t been unsuccessful the first 2 years. Year 1 was an open tryout, just looking for players that fit their culture while their QB1 was out until week 11. In year 2, they were almost a 500 team having played a very tough schedule & trying to assimilate players either in year 1 or year 2. This past season was only unsuccessful because of INJURIES. All I see is a team that is ready to make noise next year.
 

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That’s my point. They haven’t been unsuccessful the first 2 years. Year 1 was an open tryout, just looking for players that fit their culture while their QB1 was out until week 11. In year 2, they were almost a 500 team having played a very tough schedule & trying to assimilate players either in year 1 or year 2. This past season was only unsuccessful because of INJURIES. All I see is a team that is ready to make noise next year.
Find me a group who has 15 wins across three NFl seasons and then were consistently successful. It doesn’t happen.

These guys are losers and you’ll only admit it after they’re fired like you always do.
 

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Kyle Shanahan has been their coach for 9 seasons. Only 5 of them have a winning record. I googled the losing seasons and the consensus reason to all of the losses is injuries.

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"only" 5 winning seasons out of last 9

i think we've had 1?
 

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Find me a group who has 15 wins across three NFl seasons and then were consistently successful. It doesn’t happen.

These guys are losers and you’ll only admit it after they’re fired like you always do.
If Michael & Monti viewed the potential of this team through the same prism as you do, Gannon would have been fired weeks ago. Look, I don’t trust at all what’s going through Bidwill’s brain. If you go back and analyze the Bidwill firing thought process, they historically almost always fire their HC’s whenever the team is on the threshold of success, but for whatever reasons being (including injuries), they fall back. There are many instances……Charley Winner 60’s, Coryell, Hanifan, Stallings, Tobin, Whisenhunt, Kingsbury. And let’s not kid ourselves, as great as Arians was, another losing season & he would have been fired too. Now, Bill was an absolute prick. He wasn’t even man enough to fire his coaches face to face. He would just change the locks on them. Michael’s firings weren’t as obvious, but no one was surprised when he fired Whiz, Wilks, and Kingsbury. But, with all 3, he never came out weeks in advance giving any assurances that they would be kept on. He has said things that would lead you to believe that he plans on keeping Gannon. But, the Bidwills cannot be trusted in what they might do.
 

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If Michael & Monti viewed the potential of this team through the same prism as you do, Gannon would have been fired weeks ago. Look, I don’t trust at all what’s going through Bidwill’s brain. If you go back and analyze the Bidwill firing thought process, they historically almost always fire their HC’s whenever the team is on the threshold of success, but for whatever reasons being (including injuries), they fall back. There are many instances……Charley Winner 60’s, Coryell, Hanifan, Stallings, Tobin, Whisenhunt, Kingsbury. And let’s not kid ourselves, as great as Arians was, another losing season & he would have been fired too. Now, Bill was an absolute prick. He wasn’t even man enough to fire his coaches face to face. He would just change the locks on them. Michael’s firings weren’t as obvious, but no one was surprised when he fired Whiz, Wilks, and Kingsbury. But, with all 3, he never came out weeks in advance giving any assurances that they would be kept on. He has said things that would lead you to believe that he plans on keeping Gannon. But, the Bidwills cannot be trusted in what they might do.
The Cards didn't fire Wilks mid-season despite how bad and boring that season was.
Kliff and Whiz's firings very much justified in my opinion. Kliff lost the locker room in his 4th season and Whis couldn't find a quarterback to adequately replace Warner and so his post Warner teams were mediocre to bad.
I know don't know much about the other coaches listed.
 

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That’s my point. They haven’t been unsuccessful the first 2 years. Year 1 was an open tryout, just looking for players that fit their culture while their QB1 was out until week 11. In year 2, they were almost a 500 team having played a very tough schedule & trying to assimilate players either in year 1 or year 2. This past season was only unsuccessful because of INJURIES. All I see is a team that is ready to make noise next year.
Do you watch football outside of the Cardinals? In no universe is two seasons of 4-13 and 8-9 any measure of success. Again, the Pats, The Bears, The Jags JUST THE SEASON have turned it around from worst to first within 1 or 2 years with “sustained success” set up. And those are just examples from the last two years. And it’s also two of the worst organizations in football with the Jags and Bears.

And the “only reason” they sucked this year was because of injuries? Just beyond a joke. This team sucked RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE this season before injuries.

And tell us, next year, when “healthy”, how are we going to make noise? With what QB? How is the Defensive Line going to magically get better? How about the Offensive Line that was healthy the entire first half of the year and sucked?
 
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