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I think you are on the right track with the questions to ask. What do the Cardinals have roster wise moving forward?

On the Offensive side there are still a bunch of big question marks:

QB1 ??????
QB2 Brissett (Fine Bridge QB)

RB1 Conner? (Aging and need a successor soon)
RB2 Benson??? (Still a question mark)

TE McBride (Best in the league)
TE Tip R (Solid Blocking TE)
TE Higgins (Decent backup receiving TE)

WR1 Harrison?? (Still a bit of a question mark IMO)
WR2 Wilson (I'm comfortable with MW as a #2WR)
WR3 ?????

LT PJJ (Very solid)
LG Brown??? (Regressed this season)
C Froholdt (I'm OK with)
RG Adams???? (I wasn't ready to hand him the reigns this season)
RT ?????

Offensive Depth: No one worth note. Bam?, C Jones??,


As Stout mentions there is much more depth on the defensive side of the ball:

Edge Josh Sweat (Best FA signing)
DT Walter Nolen ? (I'm very high on Nolen but he need to stay healthy)
NT Dalvin Tomlinson (Solid run stuffer)
DT Darius Robinson??? (I just haven't seen it yet)
Edge Collins (OK)

ILB Mack Wilson (Solid)
ILB ADG??? (Meh)

CB Williams (Solid)
CB Milton (Solid)
CB Johnson (Solid)

S Baker (Solid)
S Rabbit (Solid)

Defensive Depth: Edge (Browning, Burch, BJ??), DT (Jones???, Nichols???), ILB (Simon), CB (Burke, Clarke??, STV, SMB?), S (Crawford)



Just looking at it this way it's clear that the defense is in far better shape moving forward. There are still pieces to upgrade on the Defensive side but not the glaring holes that the Offensive side of the ball has.
3 years in, and there is a ton to do on both sides of the ball both in the short and long term. You're right though, the talent on D is much more comforting than whatever we have on offense.
 

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This is where you’re losing people.

You have posted all these tweets of Brissett playing like a top 10 QB. All of these posts praising Brissett’s performance. That’s awesome.

But how are we still losing games? If there is good QB play going on, we shouldn’t be losing games. That’s an indictment of coaching. Gannon is a bad coach.
I’m very eager to see how bendy Brit becomes here to pretzel himself out of multiple arguments he’s made that run head on right into each other.
 

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Disagree. He's forcing situations because he's desperate for wins. He's rolling the dice on low odds decisions because he doesn't have a QB that can make the difference.

It's the same pathology that gamblers get when behind. It will work this time, what other choice do I have?

I want to see Gannon with a better QB before I judge him. Would be weird for me to write him off when a) I have always thought Kyler was a bad QB and b) I think QB's are 75% of winning.
Yeah this is just self blinding yourself. Hes literally been called out here week after week making the same tactical blunders in one score losses. Those repeated tactical blunders likely raise the win percentage for him enormously if he learned and adapted from week to week. For a guy who is, by your own admission, “desperate for wins” he sure doesn’t seem to learn how to win them. If the difference in winning or losing one score games can be as slim as a single play. It doesn’t necessitate the level of desperation you paint. It literally just requires a coach to make slight adaptations. He hasn’t. He hasn’t showed the ability to learn and grow.
 

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You're in a very small subset around here believing Kyler is a bad QB and Gannon is a good coach. You don't even try to make an argument why he's good.
Sure he did . . . Gannon is going to change his spots and become a more effective leopard. There’s Brit’s argument in a nutshell.
 

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Only Cardinals fans would have a heated debate about whether we should keep a coach who is in the midst of losing 9 out of 10 and will likely go 0-6 in the division. Expectations have become subterranean.
But it’s a GOOD 1-9 stretch!
 

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This is where you’re losing people.

You have posted all these tweets of Brissett playing like a top 10 QB. All of these posts praising Brissett’s performance. That’s awesome.

But how are we still losing games? If there is good QB play going on, we shouldn’t be losing games. That’s an indictment of coaching. Gannon is a bad coach.
Missed fg’s.
Stupid in game decisions
Turn overs.
Dropped balls
Special teams
To name a few.
 

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This is where you’re losing people.

You have posted all these tweets of Brissett playing like a top 10 QB. All of these posts praising Brissett’s performance. That’s awesome.

But how are we still losing games? If there is good QB play going on, we shouldn’t be losing games. That’s an indictment of coaching. Gannon is a bad coach.
A wild display of gymnastics.
 

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I think Brissett has played decently considering the chaotic Oline. He is not a long term starting QB. He is an excellent backup. I agree the defense is in pretty good shape. The offense needs to be the offseason focus. The team can win with this defense. They can’t win with this offense.
 

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I think Brissett has played decently considering the chaotic Oline. He is not a long term starting QB. He is an excellent backup. I agree the defense is in pretty good shape. The offense needs to be the offseason focus. The team can win with this defense. They can’t win with this offense.
On the defense...it is losing it's best DL and a starting S, and still has pass rush issues. I think saying it is good enough is a bit premature.

Guys the Cardinals will need to replace on defense in 2026.

Calais Campbell
Justin Jones/LJ Collier
Bilal Nichols/PJ Mustipher

ADG
Owen Pappoe

Jalen Thompson

And EDGE is not good, as a unit, in rushing the passer either.
 

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I think Brissett has played decently considering the chaotic Oline. He is not a long term starting QB. He is an excellent backup. I agree the defense is in pretty good shape. The offense needs to be the offseason focus. The team can win with this defense. They can’t win with this offense.
I think Brissett starts the season. The way he’s performed with this o-line and NO running game leads me to believe he would perform somewhat better.
We keep hearing this o-line sucks, the OC sucks, we have no running backs and yet “Brissett is a good backup Qb”

Let’s fix the glaring problems and needs. Draft a QBOTF. If we make the improvements Brissett seems to be “ adequate” enough to keep us competitive. Let the QBOTF sit and learn. If we start the season 2-6 then welcome in the new qb.
I also am not going to be shocked if the only staff changes we make is replacing our O-line and special team coaches.
I am hoping we bring in Adams as our HC with an entire offensive staff.
 

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I think you are on the right track with the questions to ask. What do the Cardinals have roster wise moving forward?

On the Offensive side there are still a bunch of big question marks:

QB1 ??????
QB2 Brissett (Fine Bridge QB)

RB1 Conner? (Aging and need a successor soon)
RB2 Benson??? (Still a question mark)

TE McBride (Best in the league)
TE Tip R (Solid Blocking TE)
TE Higgins (Decent backup receiving TE)

WR1 Harrison?? (Still a bit of a question mark IMO)
WR2 Wilson (I'm comfortable with MW as a #2WR)
WR3 ?????

LT PJJ (Very solid)
LG Brown??? (Regressed this season)
C Froholdt (I'm OK with)
RG Adams???? (I wasn't ready to hand him the reigns this season)
RT ?????

Offensive Depth: No one worth note. C Jones??, Gaines??


As Stout mentions there is much more depth on the defensive side of the ball:

Edge Josh Sweat (Best FA signing)
DT Walter Nolen ? (I'm very high on Nolen but he needs to stay healthy)
NT Dalvin Tomlinson (Solid run stuffer)
DT Darius Robinson??? (I just haven't seen it yet)
Edge Collins (OK)

ILB Mack Wilson (Solid)
ILB ADG??? (Meh)

CB Williams (Solid)
CB Milton (Solid)
CB Johnson (Solid)

S Baker (Solid)
S Rabbit (Solid)

Defensive Depth: Edge (Browning, Burch, BJ??), DT (Stills, Jones???, Nichols???), ILB (Simon), CB (Burke, Clarke??, SMB?), S (Crawford, Blount)



Just looking at it this way it's clear that the defense is in far better shape moving forward. There are still pieces to upgrade on the Defensive side but not the glaring holes that the Offensive side of the ball has.
Brown, Jones and Nichols are all FAs.

SMB will be cut, it is a $7.5 million saving with only $2 million in dead money.

BJ will be in the last year of his rookie deal and with a hopefully healthy off season will be in line to show what he has, if anything.

Conner will retire IMHO. That kind of ankle injury for a power RB over 30 will slow him down too much to be effective in the NFL.
 

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Disagree. He's forcing situations because he's desperate for wins. He's rolling the dice on low odds decisions because he doesn't have a QB that can make the difference.

It's the same pathology that gamblers get when behind. It will work this time, what other choice do I have?

I want to see Gannon with a better QB before I judge him. Would be weird for me to write him off when a) I have always thought Kyler was a bad QB and b) I think QB's are 75% of winning.
This is largely his fault that he's desperate for wins. I've had 3 years of the Gannon train, and I'm off.
 

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gannon is clown shoes - should be shot out of a cannon - every post game presser we see the never ending handkerchief coming out of his clown mouth

and petzing should get nipples tattooed on his butt - i don't even know what that means but im standing behind it vehemently
BGT, this is post of the year. I'm already calling it. :biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:
 

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Conner will retire IMHO. That kind of ankle injury for a power RB over 30 will slow him down too much to be effective in the NFL.
Conner is just going to forgo millions of dollars? Don’t see that. And unfortunately he’s exactly the type of player this franchise will fraudulently sell as part of the solution coming back next season, depending on an injured, aging RB to bring us back to respectability instead of being proactive and trying to get better.

Don’t see why he’d do that or why Bidwill and Co. would suddenly change their spots.
 
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He’s a fine leader, but his play impact level has declined.
Can't disagree with this. They are putting him deep in the secondary when his skillset should have him near the line of scrimmage. This is a coaching issue that has been going on for a while now. Even saying that though, his play has declined and there's no way to argue this.
 

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Conner will retire IMHO. That kind of ankle injury for a power RB over 30 will slow him down too much to be effective in the NFL.
Why would he retire vs making the Cards cut him? He has a $1M roster bonus due early in the offseason and a $6M salary.
 

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Why would he retire vs making the Cards cut him? He has a $1M roster bonus due early in the offseason and a $6M salary.
Very valid! Either way, I do not see him on the roster next season.
 

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Conner has beaten cancer. Let's give him a chance to beat his ankle injury before writing him off.
If Conner comes back to be a solid backup, getting 12ish touches a games and helping convert tough yards for first downs, I'd call that a win. Aside from the ankle injury, his age won't be doing him any favors.
 

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If Conner comes back to be a solid backup, getting 12ish touches a games and helping convert tough yards for first downs, I'd call that a win. Aside from the ankle injury, his age won't be doing him any favors.
Yeah, he's in the prove it territory of his career. Can't pay big money to him anymore for sure.
 

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