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OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread
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I don't know how Kyler would look with current crop of receivers and poor line play, tbh. It feels like we would be coached to lose regardless.
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I remember when people were blaming loses on K1
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Jacoby is terrible. Career backup at best. Cardinals really threw away a prime years franchise QB for Drew Petzing and Jacoby Brissett. Most Cardinals thing ever. Can’t wait to see K1 go to a real team and ball out. Been a fan since 1988, I think I’m done. There is no saving this squad.
Yes, Kyler would have beat the Jags. Turning him into the scapegoat for this trash coaching staff, using a fake injury, is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen from the Cardinals and the list of ridiculous things is neverending.
Yes, Kyler would have beat the Jags. Turning him into the scapegoat for this trash coaching staff, using a fake injury, is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen from the Cardinals and the list of ridiculous things is neverending.
Hmmm... JB not the answer to QB1 but also not "terrible", and we're fortunate to have him as a back up I think. He's playing his heart out, and I respect him for that.
Kyler as a scapegoat? Maybe a little, but I think it's more a function of JB coming in on a heater, and the coaches just trying to ride that momentum some.
Now how the coaches handle the QB1 decision once Murray comes off IR? That will be interesting!
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You mean a McDonald's franchise owner? Even that might be too pressurized of a situation for Kyler to succeed in.
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A caller on sports radio suggested giving up our first rounder to NE for Drake Maye. It would probably take more than that.
Even then, NE probably says no
Even then, NE probably says no
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Yeah, NE isn't trading it's franchise QB who is on a rookie deal.
Ha! I know some guys in Boston and we would literally have to physically kidnap Maye if we wanted to bring him to ARZ. lol
They are sky high right now. There aren't enough draft picks in the universe to get NE to turn loose of him.
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One of the more idiotic ideas I've heard! Why not throw a 5th to the Chiefs for Mahomes?
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Great Post ! ! !Hmmm... JB not the answer to QB1 but also not "terrible", and we're fortunate to have him as a back up I think. He's playing his heart out, and I respect him for that.
Kyler as a scapegoat? Maybe a little, but I think it's more a function of JB coming in on a heater, and the coaches just trying to ride that momentum some.
Now how the coaches handle the QB1 decision once Murray comes off IR? That will be interesting!
I'd say I want more than a QB who's biggest fan thinks would probably be good enough to win a game where we have 4 turnovers.
Couldn't disagree more. Watching JB complete 30 yards passes down the sideline is far more interesting than watching Mighty Mouse camper around.
The defensive meta has changed and Kyler has been forced to make the throws he's always been bad at. The "Franchise QB" Kyler we saw from 2019-2021 is never coming back. Its impossible to run an offense that avoids Kyler's weaknesses now. Its the exact same thing that happened to Russel Wilson.
Kyler's going to be a starter somewhere next year, but at best he's going to be a game manager for a run heavy offense. He's never going to be a consistently effective passer ever again.
And no, we would not have beaten the Jags with Kyler. Think about the post 2021 games we've seen with Kyler where the running game couldnt get anything going and he's been forced to dropback 40+ times.
Post 2021 where Kyler has been forced to throw 40+ times we are 1-7, with the lone win being that Raiders OT game in 2022 (Lol @ Josh McDaniels, worst headcoach of all time)
2025: Seahawks - 41 attempts, Lost 20-23
2024: Rams - 48 attempts, Lost 9 - 13
2024: Minnesota - 45 attempts, Lost 22-23
2023: Rams - 45 attempts, Lost 14-37
2022: Rams - 58 attempts, Lost 12-20
2022: Phily - 42 attempts Lost 17-20
2022: Minnesota 44 attempts Lost 26-34
2022: Raiders - 49 attempts WIN 29-23 (OT) (Worst coaching job I've ever seen on the Raiders sidelines)
In the modern landscape whenever we've had to put the game entirely on Kyler's arm the results have been subpar. He averages 16.56 points a game under the pass heavy conditions Jacoby's been playing under recently.
Jacoby has been better, of course we're still losing. QB isnt the main problem this year, OL is. If this team could actually run the ball Jacoby wouldnt be taking as many sacks and we'd actually have some wins.
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Slow down there, friend
I do think Jacoby losing helps another team build the narrative that Kyler can be a winning stopgap. Shanahan did it with Plummer, and it just takes ego to think plunking a former pro bowler from the Cards is a low risk move.
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I know some Minnesota fans who think K1 is the answer....
i dont think either one is the GM tho.....
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It’s amazing that this actually got put in the air other than for complete comedy.
Nah, don't personally care what happens - but 22 years is nothing in the timeline of man's ego. Someone will try and buy.
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