My bad, Monti

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What would it take to trade all the way up to #1 and take Abdul Carter? I remember when the Rams traded from #16 to #1 to get Goff. It was expensive, but it also was for a quarterback.
 
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will johnson slid - slid some more - all the way to the second round then slid some more like halfway thru it - enter monti ossenfort - who needed offensive guards and wide receivers but went bpa in the first round and again in the second when he selected #0

and then the starling injury happened - and then we ultimately did start zero - and then we had the best rated pass coverage in all of football - zero making hits and snatching picks - thanks again monti - that third round sob aint too shabby either
 
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will johnson slid - slid some more - all the way to the second round then slid some more like halfway thru it - enter monti ossenfort - who needed offensive guards and wide receivers but went bpa in the first round and again in the second when he selected #0

and then the starling injury happened - and then we ultimately did start zero - and then we had the best rated pass coverage in all of football - zero making hits and snatching picks - thanks again monti - that third round sob aint too shabby either
Johnson didn’t start. Love the enthusiasm tho.
 

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We've built our entire identity around a mauling run game, and our line can't run block.
In 3 years with all of those draft picks, Monti has managed to draft 1 legitimate starter on the Oline, and that was with a high first round pick (Isaiah Adams just doesn't count at this point).
 

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We've built our entire identity around a mauling run game, and our line can't run block.

Whew, good thing our passing is top notch to match our protection.
 

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Any facts to back this up with or are we just vibin and remembering the end like the beginning didn’t happen?
The man that helped drive the best coach in franchise history into early "retirement"? Keim would throw away draft picks every year trading for bad players in an attempt to be "all in" during years where it was clear we weren't a contender. I know, a 4th here, and a couple of 5ths there, a 6th, a 7th; it doesnt feel like much at the time, but it all adds up. It was constant. He let the premium talents walk far too often, and most former players came away hating him on a personal level. He just couldn't manage a team, even when he hired the perfect coach, he drove the operation into the ground and made the coach flee.

It's obvious that Monti hasn't revolutionized our scouting methods, but there is at least a coherent plan. The 2024 draft whiffs may be infuriating, but trading away a 1st to rent Hollywood Brown? All because Hopkins was suspended? My god. That sort of trade sets a franchise back years. The 2022 1st rounder should still be a contributor on a rookie contract.

Being better than Keim is a low bar.

Right now things are a disaster because our OL coach left and every lineman besides Paris has comically regressed. There is a good chance our current coaches can get these guys playing up to the level they did last year. That should be possible. No, we're not going to become the Lions or the Ravens. Until Monti gets lucky in the draft we're a boring, painfully average team.
 
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The man that helped drive the best coach in franchise history into early "retirement"? Keim would throw away draft picks every year trading for bad players in an attempt to be "all in" during years where it was clear we weren't a contender. I know, a 4th here, and a couple of 5ths there, a 6th, a 7th; it doesnt feel like much at the time, but it all adds up. It was constant. He let the premium talents walk far too often, and most former players came away hating him on a personal level. He just couldn't manage a team, even when he hired the perfect coach, he drove the operation into the ground and made the coach flee.

It's obvious that Monti hasn't revolutionized our scouting methods, but there is at least a coherent plan. The 2024 draft whiffs may be infuriating, but trading away a 1st to rent Hollywood Brown? All because Hopkins was suspended? My god. That sort of trade sets a franchise back years. The 2022 1st rounder should still be a contributor on a rookie contract.

Being better than Keim is a low bar.

Right now things are a disaster because our OL coach left and every lineman besides Paris has comically regressed. There is a good chance our current coaches can get these guys playing up to the level they did last year. That should be possible. No, we're not going to become the Lions or the Ravens. Until Monti gets lucky in the draft we're a boring, painfully average team.
If an OL Coach leaving can turn your entire offense into an abject disaster, there is something seriously wrong the foundation laid for that offense… and the GM who laid it.

I mean, we’re not even talking about losing the entire Offensive Coordinator of the team. We’re talking about losing ONE POSITION coach. That shouldn’t make that much of a difference if the foundation is solid enough.
 

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