OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[BritCard]

Damn Petzing

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[BooksOrangePlanet]

Damn Petzing

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burr ows

 

[DVontel]

Damn Petzing

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Chiefs really need a retool. Damn. I didn’t even realize it was THAT bad.

 

[DVontel]

Matter fact, how believable is that chart?


I refuse to believe in both Stroud’s & McCarthy’s placement.

 

[DVontel]

Browning over Burrow huh

 

[602 Native]

Damn Petzing

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LOL your chart source.

https://ftnfantasy.com/

 

[kerouac9]

LOL your chart source.

https://ftnfantasy.com/

Those are good folks. They’re the DVOA people.

Sample sizes have to be real small tho. Dropped passes and uncatchable balls through two weeks?

 

[unseenaz]

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[oaken1]

You have no idea how lucrative it is.

Especially when it's "only" fans right?
(Wink, wink)

 

[BritCard]

Chiefs really need a retool. Damn. I didn’t even realize it was THAT bad.

Mahomes has been low key mediocre for a couple of seasons now.

Maybe mediocre has not been the correct word, but not the Mahomes of his early career.

The first 5 years his average passer rating was over 105, the last 2 years it's been 93. QBR has dropped from high 70's to low 60's. He was over or pushing 5000 yards every year. Last 2 more like 4000. Averaged around 40 TD's a year, last 2 have been 26.5. YPA was nearly 9 through first 5 years, last 2 have been 6.8.

 

[BritCard]

LOL your chart source.

https://ftnfantasy.com/

They're the people who do DVOA dude. Cope harder.

 

[unseenaz]

LOL your chart source.

https://ftnfantasy.com/

Buddy is so deep in the denial tree that when he can’t argue a fact, he attacks the source. Sad!

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Mahomes has been low key mediocre for a couple of seasons now.

Maybe mediocre has not been the correct word, but not the Mahomes of his early career.

The first 5 years his average passer rating was over 105, the last 2 years it's been 93. QBR has dropped from high 70's to low 60's. He was over or pushing 5000 yards every year. Last 2 more like 4000. Averaged around 40 TD's a year, last 2 have been 26.5. YPA was nearly 9 through first 5 years, last 2 have been 6.8.

Uhh...the same Mahomes that's been to the Superbowl the last 3 years in a row? We must be talking about a different guy.

 

[602 Native]

Mahomes has been low key mediocre for a couple of seasons now.

Maybe mediocre has not been the correct word, but not the Mahomes of his early career.

The first 5 years his average passer rating was over 105, the last 2 years it's been 93. QBR has dropped from high 70's to low 60's. He was over or pushing 5000 yards every year. Last 2 more like 4000. Averaged around 40 TD's a year, last 2 have been 26.5. YPA was nearly 9 through first 5 years, last 2 have been 6.8.

Now Mahomes is mediocre.

Dear Lord

 

[602 Native]

They're the people who do DVOA dude. Cope harder.

This is funny coming from someone telling us Kurt Warner doesn't know what he is talking about in terms of QBs.

 

[BritCard]

Now Mahomes is mediocre.

Dear Lord

I mean, the stats are extremely clear there, but I know you don't believe in stats.

 

[BritCard]

This is funny coming from someone telling us Kurt Warner doesn't know what he is talking about in terms of QBs.

I didn't say that. I said he was mistaken about that play. I think he watched the TV coverage, made a statement and tried to defend it. But the tape is clear.

 

[BritCard]

I think this is Kyler's problem. I think when the game is in balance he's more concerned about not making a mistake than being aggressive. Plays with the volume turned down.

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[kerouac9]

I think this is Kyler's problem. I think when the game is in balance he's more concerned about not making a mistake than being aggressive. Plays with the volume turned down.

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Misspelling “heels” really ratchets up that authority.

 

[football karma]

Mahomes has been low key mediocre for a couple of seasons now.

his game is totally different. Its also an instructive A/B test.

Same QB, same offensive savant HC -- so what changed?

looking at the team now vs 3 years ago?

WR talent way worse with Hill gone.

Kelce is still there, but Kelce was in his prime back then, vs on the downside (but still good) today.

Offensive line was much, much better. Their tackles today are a real question mark.

 

[football karma]

I think this is Kyler's problem. I think when the game is in balance he's more concerned about not making a mistake than being aggressive. Plays with the volume turned down.

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I agree with this --it sure looks like he plays in stretches where he is really risk averse

 

[Zalixar]

Mahomes has been low key mediocre for a couple of seasons now.

He's regressing to the mean, as was foretold.

 

[Stout]

his game is totally different. Its also an instructive A/B test.

Same QB, same offensive savant HC -- so what changed?

looking at the team now vs 3 years ago?

WR talent way worse with Hill gone.

Kelce is still there, but Kelce was in his prime back then, vs on the downside (but still good) today.

Offensive line was much, much better. Their tackles today are a real question mark.

And if Kelce catches the easy TD pass, the Chefs probably go on to win that game.

 

[602 Native]

his game is totally different. Its also an instructive A/B test.

Same QB, same offensive savant HC -- so what changed?

looking at the team now vs 3 years ago?

WR talent way worse with Hill gone.

Kelce is still there, but Kelce was in his prime back then, vs on the downside (but still good) today.

Offensive line was much, much better. Their tackles today are a real question mark.

You mean there is context around why a player might not be playing to past performance levels?

Context is way outlawed here. There is only history of the now.

 

[602 Native]

I think this is Kyler's problem. I think when the game is in balance he's more concerned about not making a mistake than being aggressive. Plays with the volume turned down.

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Kurt is cool again.