2025 Cardinals Preseason Thread

[oaken1]

Yeah but it sucks a little Bach that any kind of positive data about KM's performance immediately gets spun by his detractors as somehow being "bad".

I know Murray needs to be better. Especially, especially in those critical season-deciding situations. Tons better.

But we could be working from a worse platform than 9th best QBR rating in the league from 2024. Way worse.

agree.
I am on the recorrd for being OUT on Kyler.
But we could do horribly worse than him.

But...(here comes your spin)...that is exactly part of the problem. Kyler is just good enough to keep us in Quarterback purgatory.
Not good enough to win it all... but also not bad enough to get a draft pick high enough to effectively replace him.
Leaving us in position to flirt around with the playoffs every year but never go deep into the post season....a situation that is far worse than going 5-12 every year

 

[Stout]

Stout you old rascal!

I want you to get fired up about Kyler Murray being your QB1 for the upcoming 2025 season! Get up on your feet and make some noise!

Sorry, my friend He's got to show it in meaningful ways through consistency and success first. I need the clinching of playoffs, I need a playoff win, and such. I'm not from Mizzou--although I did basic training there--so he needs to show me

 

[Chopper0080]

Stout you old rascal!

I want you to get fired up about Kyler Murray being your QB1 for the upcoming 2025 season! Get up on your feet and make some noise!

You really want to get @Stout fired up, tell him the Cardinals should see if they can trade a ham sandwich for Anthony Richardson.

 

[BACH]

Yeah but it sucks a little Bach that any kind of positive data about KM's performance immediately gets spun by his detractors as somehow being "bad".

I know Murray needs to be better. Especially, especially in those critical season-deciding situations. Tons better.

But we could be working from a worse platform than 9th best QBR rating in the league from 2024. Way worse.

Absolutely

 

[Adrian]

Insider: Arizona Cardinals Rookie Was Bright Spot in Dark Loss

There may not have been much to glean from an ugly 27-7 loss to the Denver Broncos this past weekend, but one Arizona Cardinals rookie showcased some serious po

www.si.com

 

[Adrian]

Jacoby Brissett Gives Arizona Cardinals QB Luxury

In two preseason games for the Arizona Cardinals, Jacoby Brissett has looked like one of the best backup quarterbacks in the NFL. He's totaled 138 yards on 11-for-16 passing.

www.yardbarker.com

 

[Adrian]

Raiders' unofficial depth chart for final preseason game

The Las Vegas Raiders released their unofficial depth chart ahead of the preseason matchup against the Arizona Cardinals.

www.raiders.com

 

[Adrian]

Hard Work Pays Off For PJ Mustipher As Defensive Lineman Prepares For Takeoff

Third-year nose tackle is competing for spot on 53-man roster

www.azcardinals.com

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Hard Work Pays Off For PJ Mustipher As Defensive Lineman Prepares For Takeoff

Third-year nose tackle is competing for spot on 53-man roster

www.azcardinals.com

good piece on mustipher

 

[Chopper0080]

Hard Work Pays Off For PJ Mustipher As Defensive Lineman Prepares For Takeoff

Third-year nose tackle is competing for spot on 53-man roster

www.azcardinals.com

Content season making me question everything.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

agree.
I am on the recorrd for being OUT on Kyler.
But we could do horribly worse than him.

But...(here comes your spin)...that is exactly part of the problem. Kyler is just good enough to keep us in Quarterback purgatory.
Not good enough to win it all... but also not bad enough to get a draft pick high enough to effectively replace him.
Leaving us in position to flirt around with the playoffs every year but never go deep into the post season....a situation that is far worse than going 5-12 every year

The above is what strikes the most fear into the hearts of the Murray faithful because it hits too close to home. It's the most likely way his tenure in AZ will have to come to an end.

Still (and much to the chagrin of his primary detractors) while there are scenarios where K1 could be traded after this season, the ultimate decision on his fate as a Cardinal likely won't be made until after the 2026 season.

So, my man probably has a long, long time remaining in Cardinal red, and he'll have many, many more opportunities to prove he's the the guy in AZ. He'll keep working. Whether it will be enough to get over the hurdle you describe above remains to be seen.

 

[CardNots]

When Kyler Murray targets Trey McBride, he has an 82% completion rate. WOW!

Give the man some weapons and he can make it happen!

Denver said it best, McBride cannot be covered.

 

[BACH]

Content season making me question everything.

Take it for what it is…

Nice article. And he has played well.

 

[cardpa]

Hard Work Pays Off For PJ Mustipher As Defensive Lineman Prepares For Takeoff

Third-year nose tackle is competing for spot on 53-man roster

www.azcardinals.com

With this as his competition, (Justin Jones, L.J. Collier, Elijah Simmons, Anthony Goodlow) I think he has a chance to make the roster. I think how he shows in the last preseason game will determine hie chances.

 

[Stout]

You really want to get @Stout fired up, tell him the Cardinals should see if they can trade a ham sandwich for Anthony Richardson.

A ham sandwich, and it doesn't even need to have mustard

 

[Stout]

The above is what strikes the most fear into the hearts of the Murray faithful because it hits too close to home. It's the most likely way his tenure in AZ will have to come to an end.

Still (and much to the chagrin of his primary detractors) while there are scenarios where K1 could be traded after this season, the ultimate decision on his fate as a Cardinal likely won't be made until after the 2026 season.

So, my man probably has a long, long time remaining Cardinal red, and he'll have many, many more opportunities to prove he's the the guy in AZ. He'll keep working. Whether it will be enough to get over the hurdle you describe above remains to be seen.

Unfortunately.

 

[slanidrac16]

Either we compete and make the playoffs or look for us to draft a qb in round 2 because we won’t have a high enough pick to get an elite one in the first round. Either Kyler’s stays another year ( probably) or the we trade him and Brissett becomes our starter.

 

[kerouac9]

Either we compete and make the playoffs or look for us to draft a qb in round 2 because we won’t have a high enough pick to get an elite one in the first round. Either Kyler’s stays another year ( probably) or the we trade him and Brissett becomes our starter.

Round 2 QBs are pretty butt. 1 in 4 chance you get the next Andy Dalton.

Since the turn of the century there have been 25 QBs taken in the second round of the NFL draft (the best ones in bold):

Tyler Shough​	Saints​	Louisville​
	2023​	2​	33​	Will Levis​	Titans​	Kentucky​
	2021​	32​	64​	Kyle Trask​	Buccaneers​	Florida​
	2020​	21​	53​	Jalen Hurts​	Eagles​	Oklahoma​
	2019​	10​	42​	Drew Lock​	Broncos​	Missouri​
	2017​	20​	52​	DeShone Kizer​	Browns​	Notre Dame​
	2016​	20​	51​	Christian Hackenberg​	Jets​	Penn State​
	2014​	4​	36​	Derek Carr​	Raiders​	Fresno State​
	2014​	30​	62​	Jimmy Garoppolo​	Patriots​	Eastern Illinois​
	2013​	7​	39​	Geno Smith​	Jets​	West Virginia​
	2012​	25​	57​	Brock Osweiler​	Broncos​	Arizona State​
	2011​	3​	35​	Andy Dalton​	Bengals​	Texas Christian​
	2011​	4​	36​	Colin Kaepernick​	49ers​	Nevada​
	2010​	16​	48​	Jimmy Clausen​	Panthers​	Notre Dame​
	2009​	12​	44​	Pat White​	Dolphins​	West Virginia​
	2008​	25​	56​	Brian Brohm​	Packers​	Louisville​
	2008​	26​	57​	Chad Henne​	Dolphins​	Michigan​
	2007​	4​	36​	Kevin Kolb​	Eagles​	Houston​
	2007​	8​	40​	John Beck​	Dolphins​	Brigham Young​
	2007​	11​	43​	Drew Stanton​	Lions​	Michigan State​
	2006​	17​	49​	Kellen Clemens​	Jets​	Oregon​
	2006​	32​	64​	Tarvaris Jackson​	Vikings​	Alabama State​
	2001​	1​	32​	Drew Brees​	Chargers​	Purdue​
	2001​	22​	53​	Quincy Carter​	Cowboys​	Georgia​
	2001​	28​	59​	Marques Tuiasosopo​

 

[Adrian]

Cardinals announce signing of former ASU DL Dohnovan West

The Arizona Cardinals announced the signing of offensive lineman Dohnovan West on Wednesday in Tempe.

arizonasports.com

 

[Adrian]

Simi Fehoko staking a claim to a roster spot in Cardinals receivers room

Fehoko is a newcomer to the receiver room, but there are familiar faces for him.

cardswire.usatoday.com

 

[Adrian]

Las Vegas Raiders at Arizona Cardinals: TV channel, time, what to know

The Las Vegas Raiders will face off against the Arizona Cardinals in their final preseason game on Saturday, August 23, with kickoff scheduled for 7 p.m. on FOX.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[Adrian]

Mack Wilson Sr. speaks on Cardinals potential for 2025 | 'The Insiders'

Arizona Cardinals linebacker Mack Wilson Sr. joins "The Insiders" to discuss the Cardinals upcoming season.

www.nfl.com

 

[Adrian]

Cardinals Corner: Arizona position battles to watch in preseason finale

The Arizona Cardinals' final preseason game is nearly here! Arizona Sports' Cardinals reporter Tyler Drake and Burns & Gambo producer Lauren Koval dive into the final week of work in Tempe and who needs a strong showing against the Raiders this weekend. Subscribe, rate 5 stars and follow...

arizonasports.com

 

[BigDavis75]

Jacoby Brissett Gives Arizona Cardinals QB Luxury

In two preseason games for the Arizona Cardinals, Jacoby Brissett has looked like one of the best backup quarterbacks in the NFL. He's totaled 138 yards on 11-for-16 passing.

www.yardbarker.com

He *is* one of the best backup QBs in the NFL, glad we have some stability there.

 

[BigDavis75]

Round 2 QBs are pretty butt. 1 in 4 chance you get the next Andy Dalton.

Since the turn of the century there have been 25 QBs taken in the second round of the NFL draft (the best ones in bold):

​

Tyler Shough​	Saints​	Louisville​
	2023​	2​	33​	Will Levis​	Titans​	Kentucky​
	2021​	32​	64​	Kyle Trask​	Buccaneers​	Florida​
	2020​	21​	53​	Jalen Hurts​	Eagles​	Oklahoma​
	2019​	10​	42​	Drew Lock​	Broncos​	Missouri​
	2017​	20​	52​	DeShone Kizer​	Browns​	Notre Dame​
	2016​	20​	51​	Christian Hackenberg​	Jets​	Penn State​
	2014​	4​	36​	Derek Carr​	Raiders​	Fresno State​
	2014​	30​	62​	Jimmy Garoppolo​	Patriots​	Eastern Illinois​
	2013​	7​	39​	Geno Smith​	Jets​	West Virginia​
	2012​	25​	57​	Brock Osweiler​	Broncos​	Arizona State​
	2011​	3​	35​	Andy Dalton​	Bengals​	Texas Christian​
	2011​	4​	36​	Colin Kaepernick​	49ers​	Nevada​
	2010​	16​	48​	Jimmy Clausen​	Panthers​	Notre Dame​
	2009​	12​	44​	Pat White​	Dolphins​	West Virginia​
	2008​	25​	56​	Brian Brohm​	Packers​	Louisville​
	2008​	26​	57​	Chad Henne​	Dolphins​	Michigan​
	2007​	4​	36​	Kevin Kolb​	Eagles​	Houston​
	2007​	8​	40​	John Beck​	Dolphins​	Brigham Young​
	2007​	11​	43​	Drew Stanton​	Lions​	Michigan State​
	2006​	17​	49​	Kellen Clemens​	Jets​	Oregon​
	2006​	32​	64​	Tarvaris Jackson​	Vikings​	Alabama State​
	2001​	1​	32​	Drew Brees​	Chargers​	Purdue​
	2001​	22​	53​	Quincy Carter​	Cowboys​	Georgia​
	2001​	28​	59​	Marques Tuiasosopo​

How is Geno Smith not bolded here if your metric is NFL starter?