OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[Outerlimits]

He will 100% be. They said it on the post game show and said he deserves to be.

Followed by the very obvious question no one can answer...if not him then whom and why would they play for this poverty franchise?

Yes, he will 100% be here next year, but largely because no better option exists in short term.

Doesn't change the reality that Kyler is mediocre to awful when hugely important games are on the schedule. I'm happy the team is still in the hunt late in December for the postseason but does anyone here have much confidence that Kyler will play well in these final three must win games?

It is frustrating because the defense is playing well above their skill level in many games after the first 1/4 of the season. If the offense wasn't disappointing, the Cards would likely have won around 11 games this year and been somewhat a threat in playoffs.(plus hugely optimistic about next year)

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Is it stats or wins tonight because it varies based on the outcome for the Never Murrays

For me it’s decisionmaking. Like throwing yet ANOTHER brain dead interception as he panicked. He was lucky to get bailed out by a boneheaded penalty.

 

[Stout]

If you're happy about a 224 yard game with no TDS and 11 yards rushing, we'll I don't know what to tell you.

Good thing we didn't need him today cuz the defense was stellar.

Also, Kyler trying to throw the game away and getting bailed out by a penalty.

 

[Phrazbit]

Defining 3 game stretch coming up. We run the table, we host a playoff game... we lose either division game, and we're toast.

In utterly infuriating fashion, we probably lose to Carolina, then win the next 2 and lose out on a tie break, with Kyler having one great game and 2 games where he was as mediocre as can be.

Regardless, I think he's here another year, they can't get away with tanking again and there is no realistic upgrade.

 

[602 Native]

For me it’s decisionmaking. Like throwing yet ANOTHER brain dead interception as he panicked. He was lucky to get bailed out by a boneheaded penalty.

Also, Kyler trying to throw the game away and getting bailed out by a penalty.

Absolutely a poor decision and yet we blew them out as predicted.

You guys are the first to cry about K1 having a good game in a loss. He had an average game in a win and you are still crying about it.

 

[BritCard]

Absolutely a poor decision and yet we blew them out as predicted.

You guys are the first to cry about K1 having a good game in a loss. He had an average game in a win and you are still crying about it.

He had a statistically poor game against one of the worst defenses in the league. This is his passing map. He had like 2 completions over 7 yards.

It's mediocre against a poor defense.

Geno had 312 yards and a TD against the Pats.
Purdy had 288 and 1/1
Stafford had 295 and 4 TDs

Kyler had 224, 0 TDs and should have had an INT.

Uninspiring

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[cardncubfan]

He also had several beautiful passes that should have been caught by Marv not to mention the passes to Trey. Yes, he had one boneheaded pass when he was trying to make something happen.

 

[BritCard]

He also had several beautiful passes that should have been caught by Marv not to mention the passes to Trey. Yes, he had one boneheaded pass when he was trying to make something happen.

He had 1 that was a great play by Gonzalez. The rest were bad passes.

 

[Stout]

Absolutely a poor decision and yet we blew them out as predicted.

You guys are the first to cry about K1 having a good game in a loss. He had an average game in a win and you are still crying about it.

He had a below average game in a win that could have gone very differently if he hadn't gotten very, very lucky. You cannot honestly look at this game and think it moves the needle in his favor, can you?

 

[602 Native]

He had a statistically poor game against one of the worst defenses in the league. This is his passing map. He had like 2 completions over 7 yards.

It's mediocre against a poor defense.

Geno had 312 yards and a TD against the Pats.
Purdy had 288 and 1/1
Stafford had 295 and 4 TDs

Kyler had 224, 0 TDs and should have had an INT.

Uninspiring

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Geno and Purdy aren’t better than K1.

They do have vastly superior wr talent comparatively which makes them look good.

Who needs a chart I watched the game?

K1 was good today and would have been great if Marv would man up.

 

[Stout]

Geno and Purdy aren’t better than K1.

They do have vastly superior wr talent comparatively which makes them look good.

Who needs a chart I watched the game?

K1 was good today and would have been great if Marv would man up.

We were watching different games.

 

[602 Native]

He had a below average game in a win that could have gone very differently if he hadn't gotten very, very lucky. You cannot honestly look at this game and think it moves the needle in his favor, can you?

I saw nothing that indicates a below average day in this offense.

 

[602 Native]

We were watching different games.

10/15 on third down is not below average for any offense that a QB is in.

 

[BritCard]

10/15 on third down is not below average for any offense that a QB is in.

See - Pats defense is ass - for further reference.

Honestly disgusting we had 15 3rd downs against this defense.

 

[Stout]

I saw nothing that indicates a below average day in this offense.

Ah, there it is. There's the excuse.

 

[BritCard]

The funniest thing today is remembering someone compared Kyler to Josh Allen last week...

 

[602 Native]

See - Pats defense is ass - for further reference.

Honestly disgusting we had 15 3rd downs against this defense.

Our dink and dunk offense is the reason for that.

Talk to our terrible OC with the 1940s Wing T offense and our WRs that can’t get separation.

At this point might as well run 3 TE sets every down.

 

[Stout]

Our dink and dunk offense is the reason for that.

Talk to our terrible OC with the 1940s Wing T offense and our WRs that can’t get separation.

At this point might as well run 3 TE sets every down.

More excuses. It's the offense! It's the OC! It's the WRs! It's 3 TE sets! It's surely not Kyler!

(someone mumbles that the QB can't process fast enough or isn't good enough in the pocket)

Who said that? That can't possibly be the answer to any single problem with the Cards! Kyler is elite!

 

[602 Native]

Ah, there it is. There's the excuse.

We won zero excuses are needed.

Had we lost and K1 had a great game you would be killing him for another collapse late in the season. Either way there is no appeasing you guys.

 

[Stout]

We won zero excuses are needed.

Had we lost and K1 had a great game you would be killing him for another collapse late in the season. Either way there is no appeasing you guys.

We won. I'm happy we won! I love that Conner had a good game and that our D came up big enough against a bad team. I thought Benson ran hard. I was even happy that Petzing was calling some more interesting plays, a few of which worked! I'm not happy that we can't get McBride a TD (although we tried). I'm not pleased with Kyler's play. I wasn't happy with the D on the first drive, which lucked out with their awful bend but don't break against a bad team leading to a FG miss. I was disappointed in MHJ, or Charmin Marvin, as the name goes. All of those things can be true.

Honestly, that idiotic INT gives you no leeway to defend Kyler here.

 

[602 Native]

We won. I'm happy we won! I love that Conner had a good game and that our D came up big enough against a bad team. I thought Benson ran hard. I was even happy that Petzing was calling some more interesting plays, a few of which worked! I'm not happy that we can't get McBride a TD (although we tried). I'm not pleased with Kyler's play. I wasn't happy with the D on the first drive, which lucked out with their awful bend but don't break against a bad team leading to a FG miss. I was disappointed in MHJ, or Charmin Marvin, as the name goes. All of those things can be true.

Honestly, that idiotic INT gives you no leeway to defend Kyler here.

JC had a great day not just a good one.

You forgot the fumble by Dortch that could have been a disaster. There were lots of crap in this game because we are not a great team but a good one.

Already said the INT was terrible and K1 has to be better there but one mistake doesn’t negate the whole game especially when it had zero affect on the game.

 

[Stout]

JC had a great day not just a good one.

You forgot the fumble by Dortch that could have been a disaster. There were lots of crap in this game because we are not a great team but a good one.

Already said the INT was terrible and K1 has to be better there but one mistake doesn’t negate the whole game especially when it had zero affect on the game.

Yes, the fumble by Dortch was a near disaster! He had a good play later, but that could have really soured the game too.

 

[DVontel]

Is this a bit at this point?

 

[slanidrac16]

More excuses. It's the offense! It's the OC! It's the WRs! It's 3 TE sets! It's surely not Kyler!

(someone mumbles that the QB can't process fast enough or isn't good enough in the pocket)

Who said that? That can't possibly be the answer to any single problem with the Cards! Kyler is elite!

Don’t forget our receivers were to small. So now we have bigger receivers but we need a faster one.
Geezus cripes,

 

[iLLmatiC]

More excuses. It's the offense! It's the OC! It's the WRs! It's 3 TE sets! It's surely not Kyler!

(someone mumbles that the QB can't process fast enough or isn't good enough in the pocket)

Who said that? That can't possibly be the answer to any single problem with the Cards! Kyler is elite!

This is Deandre Ayton all over again.