Free Agency 2020

Folster

ASFN Icon
Joined
Jun 23, 2005
Posts
15,839
Reaction score
6,064
How about Danny Ainge playing hardball with Indiana and losing Hayward for nothing. Reports were Miles Turner and Doug McDermott were involved in a potential return package.
 

AzStevenCal

ASFN IDOL
Supporting Member
Joined
Apr 2, 2004
Posts
35,866
Reaction score
14,555
The key part being "superior players". As with Saric and Cam, I don't doubt that Crowder hustles and puts forth his all defensively. He has just lost about 3 steps, particularly laterally and in terms of leaping ability, and it shows.

Maybe in a marathon. Three steps on a basketball court is a heck of a lot, you don't often see that in 30 year olds whose legs are still attached.
 

AzCards777

Rookie
Joined
Oct 7, 2014
Posts
91
Reaction score
98
Team could use a legit scoring gaurd off the bench, such as Burks, hardaway jr.

CP3 / Carter/ Okobo
Booker / Payne
Bridges / Cam
Crowder / Saric (RFA)
Ayton / J.Smith /Dialo
 

CardsSunsDbacks

Not So Skeptical
Joined
Aug 26, 2012
Posts
9,899
Reaction score
6,108
how would the bucks have come up with 44 million bucks in salary without gutting the team?
I mean we only sent out 35m and the Bucks could have surpassed that amount with just Bledsoe, Hill and Lopez and they could have only took Paul back to lower the incoming salary that we got with Nader.
 

Proximo

ASFN Icon
Joined
Mar 8, 2015
Posts
11,763
Reaction score
9,356
No bottom line is that you believe he caved because you see no good reason.

You are completely overlooking the Bucks. They absolutely could have put a package together to get Paul that would have resembled the one we did.

They may have felt the price a was a little too steep in the end, but they were at least one other team showing interest. They probably just weren't willing to match our offer once we made it.

It worked out pretty well for them though because they were able to later pull a trade for Jrue.

It does not matter. Paul wanted to go to the Suns.

What is that package you are talking about - Bledsoe, Illiasova, George Hill, and Robin Lopez? You think that is better than Rubio and Oubre - cause I don't think OKC would have thought so.

How would OKC get 2 firsts out of that group like the did for Rubio and Oubre?

You think Millwaukee would throw them in?

Jones had the upper hand, but he was too stupid to realize it.
 

Ouchie-Z-Clown

I'm better than Mulli!
Joined
Sep 16, 2002
Posts
59,937
Reaction score
51,286
Location
SoCal
I would be concerned if “draft consensus” had a track record of being consistently right and never missing. Draft analysis is very very hard and so much depends on player development staff and coaching. Cam Johnson is a good early feather in the Suns’ current PDS and coaching.
I wasn’t arguing against the pick, just disagreeing with chap’s characterization of “consensus.” I’m fine with Jalen selection though I recognize his likely warts.
 

Ouchie-Z-Clown

I'm better than Mulli!
Joined
Sep 16, 2002
Posts
59,937
Reaction score
51,286
Location
SoCal
You may disagree, but I DID read that. But hey, if that helps perpetuate the fantasy that James Jones is a horrible GM, then so be it. (Not saying you follow that opinion, as I believe you do not)
I’m not saying you didn’t read it anywhere. I’m just saying it wasn’t “consensus.”

And you’re right, I’m not a jones hater. Fan? Not yet. Still in wait and see mode.
 

Cheesebeef

ASFN IDOL
Supporting Member
Joined
Jan 2, 2003
Posts
88,125
Reaction score
60,431
I mean we only sent out 35m and the Bucks could have surpassed that amount with just Bledsoe, Hill and Lopez and they could have only took Paul back to lower the incoming salary that we got with Nader.

they don’t get the cap relief there with Bledsoe still having three years left on his terrible deal.
 

1Sun

ASFN Addict
BANNED BY MODERATORS
Joined
Sep 8, 2018
Posts
8,750
Reaction score
1,129
Location
Chandler, AZ
Team could use a legit scoring gaurd off the bench, such as Burks, hardaway jr.

CP3 / Carter/ Okobo
Booker / Payne
Bridges / Cam
Crowder / Saric (RFA)
Ayton / J.Smith /Dialo


More like:

CP3/Payne
Booker/Carter
Bridges/Nader
???/Cam/Crowder/Smith
Ayton/Saric/Smith

Diallo has been let go. Saric can't play the 4. Cam can't play the 3. Smith can play both the 4 and the 5 on a very limited basis until he physically develops.

We do very much need a back-up scoring combo guard, but we also still need a starting 4 and a back-up 3.
 

CardsSunsDbacks

Not So Skeptical
Joined
Aug 26, 2012
Posts
9,899
Reaction score
6,108
It does not matter. Paul wanted to go to the Suns.

What is that package you are talking about - Bledsoe, Illiasova, George Hill, and Robin Lopez? You think that is better than Rubio and Oubre - cause I don't think OKC would have thought so.

How would OKC get 2 firsts out of that group like the did for Rubio and Oubre?

You think Millwaukee would throw them in?

Jones had the upper hand, but he was too stupid to realize it.
With more draft compensation, absolutely. That has been their entire aim in this free agency is making moves to get as many draft picks as possible.

Look what they did with both Rubio and Oubre. Traded Rubio to Minnesota just to move up to #17 from #28 in the draft and traded Oubre to GS for a protected 2021 pick.

It's not like they were planning to build a team around the guys they got back and they still could have flipped the players they would have gotten from Milwaukee.
 

JCSunsfan

ASFN Icon
Joined
Oct 24, 2002
Posts
21,754
Reaction score
6,138
So what about Baynes. Are the Pels still interested or is the Steve Adams acquisition where they stop. Where else would Baynes want to go? What other teams have the space to sign him? Who is pushing to get out?
 

1Sun

ASFN Addict
BANNED BY MODERATORS
Joined
Sep 8, 2018
Posts
8,750
Reaction score
1,129
Location
Chandler, AZ
So what about Baynes. Are the Pels still interested or is the Steve Adams acquisition where they stop. Where else would Baynes want to go? What other teams have the space to sign him? Who is pushing to get out?

Boston will likely sign him for their MLE.
 

Ouchie-Z-Clown

I'm better than Mulli!
Joined
Sep 16, 2002
Posts
59,937
Reaction score
51,286
Location
SoCal
So what about Baynes. Are the Pels still interested or is the Steve Adams acquisition where they stop. Where else would Baynes want to go? What other teams have the space to sign him? Who is pushing to get out?
No way with Pels now. I think cheese is onto something with clippers? Maybe still Boston?
 

Yuma

Suns are my Kryptonite!
Joined
Jan 3, 2003
Posts
20,163
Reaction score
9,606
Location
Laveen, AZ
I swear Phoenix Suns could have done this:

Ayton, Booker, Paul, Lebron, Giannis and I can hear it all now. Giannis and Ayton can't play together! Lebron and Paul are both too old! We need a true PF! Who is going to be the back up PG? How does this help our bench? Too many egos and not enough role players. Etc. Etc. Etc!!!
 
Last edited:

1Sun

ASFN Addict
BANNED BY MODERATORS
Joined
Sep 8, 2018
Posts
8,750
Reaction score
1,129
Location
Chandler, AZ
No way with Pels now. I think cheese is onto something with clippers? Maybe still Boston?

Unless Boston is willing to trade Marcus Smart (fat chance), there is nobody there that would move the needle for us in a sign and trade. With respect to the Clippers, I don't see them moving Lou Williams (though that would be pretty darn perfect for us). Perhaps Patrick Beverley or a signed-and-traded Reggie Jackson?
 

Forum statistics

Threads
534,858
Posts
5,246,908
Members
6,274
Latest member
G-PA
Top