Cardinals at Ravens gameday thread 9-15-19

[AzStevenCal]

Is it complaining, or is it just offering a counter to people who are saying he is playing so good despite bad playcalling?

Do it without using a derogatory nickname or calling him a little b*tch or equating him to a character that was the bottom of the barrel, butt of all jokes, laughingstock character of a sometimes hilarious but ultimately lame movie and perhaps your words will be taken at face value. And it just seems so out of character for you, a lot of us have relied on and enjoyed your analysis in the past.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I guess you can now take my movie taste into question as well...

"The NBA moved the Jazz to Utah, where they don't allow music"...lol, still funny.

Those guys were brilliant with South Park. They blew it when they believed they could act. Even a little.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I certainly get the nuances I just want to win every game. You should too...even though we know that simply won't happen. That's ok though. For now be happy with your moral victories, at least those look good in the standings on nfl.com.

I do want to win every game. But I don’t expect it. Not after being the worst team in the league. So in what I considered a “lost” season going in I’m happy to find and enjoy smaller victories within the game. If it’s win or nothing for you I don’t know why you watch this year. I mean, you should know you’re going to be disappointed more often (likely much more often) than not, right?

 

[Shane]

I worked OT all morning And missed the game obviously. Worth watching it or should I just delete the recording?

 

[Finito]

Do it without using a derogatory nickname or calling him a little b*tch or equating him to a character that was the bottom of the barrel, butt of all jokes, laughingstock character of a sometimes hilarious but ultimately lame movie and perhaps your words will be taken at face value. And it just seems so out of character for you, a lot of us have relied on and enjoyed your analysis in the past.

Pretty much

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I do want to win every game. But I don’t expect it. Not after being the worst team in the league. So in what I considered a “lost” season going in I’m happy to find and enjoy smaller victories within the game. If it’s win or nothing for you I don’t know why you watch this year. I mean, you should know you’re going to be disappointed more often (likely much more often) than not, right?

Right now we are experiencing what we were supposed to get last year as far as competitive games instead of the total crap fest.

Everyone said at the start of the season just making this team competitive was a monumental thing.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I worked OT all morning And missed the game obviously. Worth watching it or should I just delete the recording?

Totally worth watching

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Is it complaining, or is it just offering a counter to people who are saying he is playing so good despite bad playcalling?

I don’t think I see anyone saying “he is playing so good.” I think people are encouraged by what they’ve seen thus far. I think you’re kinda swinging at ghosts.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Do it without using a derogatory nickname or calling him a little b*tch or equating him to a character that was the bottom of the barrel, butt of all jokes, laughingstock character of a sometimes hilarious but ultimately lame movie and perhaps your words will be taken at face value. And it just seems so out of character for you, a lot of us have relied on and enjoyed your analysis in the past.

A lot of people had some strong opinions about drafting Murray for a variety of reasons. These strong opinions will continue for a long time.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I worked OT all morning And missed the game obviously. Worth watching it or should I just delete the recording?

Watch it. You’ll be frustrated at times but it was a worthwhile game to watch.

 

[AzStevenCal]

A lot of people had some strong opinions about drafting Murray for a variety of reasons. These strong opinions will continue for a long time.

Yeah, I know that. While I've mostly just lurked here the past several years, I was very much one of the anti-Murray fans. I thought it was the worst decision we've made since we hired McGinnis. AFAIC I've been proven wrong. He has a long way to go but I've seen enough now to believe he's going to be special for us, eventually. If he survives our O Line.

 

[Chopper0080]

I worked OT all morning And missed the game obviously. Worth watching it or should I just delete the recording?

Worth watching

 

[swagron]

A lot of people had some strong opinions about drafting Murray for a variety of reasons. These strong opinions will continue for a long time.

I believe this to be true. He came off as very punkish during the Dan Patrick interview.

 

[gimpy]

Totally worth watching

Wait! How would you know? I thought you were on drugs during the game?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Wait! How would you know? I thought you were on drugs during the game?

I wasnt on drugs til the third

 

[SECTION 11]

It’s amazing how few issues this team has compared to last years.

 

[Jasper]

We are competitive but officially last place in the NFC west by week 2.

 

[football karma]

Is it complaining, or is it just offering a counter to people who are saying he is playing so good despite bad playcalling?

i am grading on a curve given rookie status

if this game were another 18 games in, its a different standard

 

[Krangodnzr]

Right now we are experiencing what we were supposed to get last year as far as competitive games instead of the total crap fest.

Everyone said at the start of the season just making this team competitive was a monumental thing.

Lots of moving the goal post.

 

[DVontel]

We are competitive but officially last place in the NFC west by week 2.

Expected.

 

[slanidrac16]

Right now we are experiencing what we were supposed to get last year as far as competitive games instead of the total crap fest.

Everyone said at the start of the season just making this team competitive was a monumental thing.

Lol...that’s until we lose!

 

[Chopper0080]

I don’t think I see anyone saying “he is playing so good.” I think people are encouraged by what they’ve seen thus far. I think you’re kinda swinging at ghosts.

"Murray, IMO, is a stud, made some amazing throws under pressure today."

That is just one quote from this thread.

You read about how it is the line's fault.

It is the play calling's fault.

It is the ref's fault.

Ok, they all may share some of the blame, but it is also partly the blame of our rookie QB. The generational talent whose lack of starting experience, lack of size, and lack of overcoming adversity was all irrelevant when called into question pre and post draft. And yet here we are...our rookie QB looking inexperienced, looking small, and not being able to overcome adversity to get wins. Could it be that he is not the perfect prospect that was touted, and that so far, the only thing that has looked more than average has been his accuracy?

Where I get chaffed is when all of the folks who touted him as a transcendent QB talent in the draft now walk it back saying that "he is just a rookie" and that "it is only his second start".

Is he better than what we had? Yes. Do I expect him to get better? Yes. Does that make his level of play right now good? No. It is average at best.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I don’t think I see anyone saying “he is playing so good.” I think people are encouraged by what they’ve seen thus far. I think you’re kinda swinging at ghosts.

Yeeeep.

Could he play alot better? Sure.

Is he as good as he can be? No hes not.

 

[Chopper0080]

i am grading on a curve given rookie status

if this game were another 18 games in, its a different standard

Do transcendent and generational talents get rookie learning curves?

 

[vince56]

"Murray, IMO, is a stud, made some amazing throws under pressure today."

That is just one quote from this thread.

You read about how it is the line's fault.

It is the play calling's fault.

It is the ref's fault.

Ok, they all may share some of the blame, but it is also partly the blame of our rookie QB. The generational talent whose lack of starting experience, lack of size, and lack of overcoming adversity was all irrelevant when called into question pre and post draft. And yet here we are...our rookie QB looking inexperienced, looking small, and not being able to overcome adversity to get wins. Could it be that he is not the perfect prospect that was touted, and that so far, the only thing that has looked more than average has been his accuracy?

Where I get chaffed is when all of the folks who touted him as a transcendent QB talent in the draft now walk it back saying that "he is just a rookie" and that "it is only his second start".

Is he better than what we had? Yes. Do I expect him to get better? Yes. Does that make his level of play right now good? No. It is average at best.

Dude has 700 yards in his first two games, 2 TDs, 1 int, and 2 2 point conversions. What the heck do you want?