Kelly Oubre...

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A concern that just came to mind . . . Oubre has been all about the Valley Boyz. But what if we just shipped a few out with JJ, Melton, maybe okobo? We don’t know who oubre’s Valley Boyz were.

Another concern that just came to mind: LA also has a Valley.

 

[SirStefan32]

A concern that just came to mind . . . Oubre has been all about the Valley Boyz. But what if we just shipped a few out with JJ, Melton, maybe okobo? We don’t know who oubre’s Valley Boyz were.

Booker, Ayton, Bridges.

 

[Superbone]

I don't think we're going to hear anything until the Leonard dust settles.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I am not worried about this. We want to keep him. We do not have other big deals on the horizon that would send us into the lux tax territory, and we can match any offer he gets. He wants to be here. He isn't surly and non-communicative like Bledsoe.

We will not low-ball him and when he gets signed people here will criticize the team for bidding against itself and paying too much. But we will pay him what looks like equitable value even if he has no other offers.

 

[GatorAZ]

A concern that just came to mind . . . Oubre has been all about the Valley Boyz. But what if we just shipped a few out with JJ, Melton, maybe okobo? We don’t know who oubre’s Valley Boyz were.

Tell him he can buy new friends.

 

[az jam]

Just wondering what the impact of the big Kawhi trade to the Clippers will be for the Suns to be able to sign Oubre?? Lakers have already used the majority of their cap and Toronto doesn't have much money. Hope there is no one else with money going after him and he resigns with the Suns.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Just wondering what the impact of the big Kawhi trade to the Clippers will be for the Suns to be able to sign Oubre?? Lakers have already used the majority of their cap and Toronto doesn't have much money. Hope there is no one else with money going after him and he resigns with the Suns.

Dallas is the only team with money, I think.

 

[devilalum]

I hope the Suns give Oubre a fair contract and don't low ball him because there's nowhere left for him to go.

 

[az jam]

I hope the Suns give Oubre a fair contract and don't low ball him because there's nowhere left for him to go.

Totally agree, pay him and make him happy to be here.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I hope the Suns give Oubre a fair contract and don't low ball him because there's nowhere left for him to go.

So what would you pay him? I am standing by 5/75. With a team option in year 4 (year three would be better).

 

[Dr. Jones]

So what would you pay him? I am standing by 5/75. With a team option in year 4 (year three would be better).

5/110 or 125

It will look like a steal in 3 years.

 

[devilalum]

So what would you pay him? I am standing by 5/75. With a team option in year 4 (year three would be better).

Your numbers may be right, I don't know. I would just hate to see the Suns get into a battle with Oubre and his agent over numbers. The Suns have made some odd moves this summer but it does seem like they're trying to clean up their act. Bringing in high character guys and spending money. It would be a big step backwards if Oubre signed the qualifying offer like Joe Johnson did and played the season in protest.

Here's an interesting interview with Monty. He talks about the process. Its from before the draft but gives some insight into what they're doing.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...isions-made-by-the-franchise-in-recent-years/

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

5/110 or 125

It will look like a steal in 3 years.

Well it would look terrible right now. Considering it wouldn't take anywhere near that much to sign him.

 

[az jam]

So what would you pay him? I am standing by 5/75. With a team option in year 4 (year three would be better).

That seems more than fair. Good contract considering that he really had one good season and that is with the Suns for the 40 games.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Well it would look terrible right now. Considering it wouldn't take anywhere near that much to sign him.

Should we be know for putting the screws to one of our starters? This guy came in and was immediately one of the key pieces to a new and revitalized chemistry.

Seems like that would be more of the same from an organization not willing to do what it takes to win.

 

[Krangodnzr]

The Suns might have to overpay Oubre.

IF Booker, Ayton, and Oubre can continue to improve their games, this roster is much better suited to win.

That's why I'm not upset about these moves. The salary cap has been cleaned up and a plethora of supporting players were added.

There times last year, that Booker, Ayton, and Oubre would all have good games, but Melton would score 2 pts and 2 assists in 25 mins and Bender 4 pts and 4 rebounds. That was the problem with the Suns last year! You would have Melton and Bender starting, both putting up stat lines like that. Now that you have Rubio/Johnson and Saric/Kaminsky, we wont see as many games like that.

Basketball is a heavily math driven game. If you have three players playing a lot of mins and putting up next to no numbers, you are going to lose most games.

Now the Suns have fixed this AND can probably have the ammo and cap space to go after a star player soon.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Should we be know for putting the screws to one of our starters? This guy came in and was immediately one of the key pieces to a new and revitalized chemistry.

Seems like that would be more of the same from an organization not willing to do what it takes to win.

There is a difference between giving a fair offer and putting the screws to someone. You can't just go and massively overpay someone because you are afraid of being seen as playing hardball. A bit of an overpay is fine, but getting up into the 20+ per year range for Oubre right now would be a ridiculous overpay. Especially if it isn't caused by us having to match an offer sheet.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns might have to overpay Oubre.

IF Booker, Ayton, and Oubre can continue to improve their games, this roster is much better suited to win.

That's why I'm not upset about these moves. The salary cap has been cleaned up and a plethora of supporting players were added.

There times last year, that Booker, Ayton, and Oubre would all have good games, but Melton would score 2 pts and 2 assists in 25 mins and Bender 4 pts and 4 rebounds. That was the problem with the Suns last year! You would have Melton and Bender starting, both putting up stat lines like that. Now that you have Rubio/Johnson and Saric/Kaminsky, we wont see as many games like that.

Basketball is a heavily math driven game. If you have three players playing a lot of mins and putting up next to no numbers, you are going to lose most games.

Now the Suns have fixed this AND can probably have the ammo and cap space to go after a star player soon.

The Suns should meet Oubre at least part way on a contract...enough to keep him happy. I do not want a repeat of the Joe Johnson situation.

 

[az jam]

The Suns should meet Oubre at least part way on a contract...enough to keep him happy. I do not want a repeat of the Joe Johnson situation.

Agree, that would be a disaster!!!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

5/110 or 125

It will look like a steal in 3 years.

That’s the quintessential bidding against yourself and acting outta fear. Jones already has made errors in value, we really needn’t have him compound it by overpaying when it isn’t necessary.

And name me the players that are similar to Oubre garnering $22-25M/year five year contracts please.

 

[JCSunsfan]

5/110 or 125

It will look like a steal in 3 years.

I think 5/75 is in line with what similar players have gotten this summer.

 

[GatorAZ]

The Suns should meet Oubre at least part way on a contract...enough to keep him happy. I do not want a repeat of the Joe Johnson situation.

We don’t know where either side sits considering there’s been no leaks. If an average player gets offended over something like a 14-15mil/year offer that is not on the Suns. At this point the only team that could test us is Dallas. TBD...

 

[Covert Rain]

Can we get this done already?!?!?!!?

 

[devilalum]

Can we get this done already?!?!?!!?

Don't the Suns have to tie up all the other loose ends first?

It's finally the 6th, dominoes should start falling now.

 

[SirStefan32]

I think 5/75 is in line with what similar players have gotten this summer.

I agree, but I would give him an extra million or two per year just because he actually wants to be here, and for his attitude.