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This is interesting.... a correction.

The Suns are reportedly more interested in Coby White than Garland.

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Just sounds to me like he talked to gambo.

This better be bs.
 

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Absolutely. I think Garland has a higher ceiling but a much lower floor. He has played 5 freaking games. His range of outcomes are a much larger risk than White


White will play a long time in this league and be a decent player

I think White's ceiling is Leandro Barbosa. We need to do much better than that with the 6th pick, in my opinion. I wouldn't mind White if Hunter and Garland are off the board, as he at least kind of, sort of fills a need, and certainly more so than the likes of Culver, but in my opinion we will still be searching for a starting caliber NBA point guard, which I don't think White will ever be.
 

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Just sounds to me like he talked to gambo.

This better be bs.

Speaking of Gambo, he hasn't tweeted in 11 hours. I was hoping he would say something by now.
 

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Well we already disagree there. I see better shooting Kris Dunn. Cuttino Mobley. More athletic JJ Reddick

I see comps to long career players who were decent. Either okay starters or top bench guys

Nothing wrong with that in this draft. I would take that over another possible bust
 

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Depending on where you look, he was either the #2 or #3 prospect going into college. So while he wasn’t #1 it doesn’t hurt my argument in the least.
The dude could be the single most fully exposed over-rated player I’ve ever seen. It’s not just his numbers were god awful. He fatally failed every eye test too. And terrible b-ball IQ to boot.
 

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The dude could be the single most fully exposed over-rated player I’ve ever seen. It’s not just his numbers were god awful. He fatally failed every eye test too. And terrible b-ball IQ to boot.
Kudos on you for watching every single game he played in and the hours you spent watching game film.
 

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Kudos on you for watching every single game he played in and the hours you spent watching game film.
Given that he played for Duke I watched a TON of his LONE season in college where he routinely sucked and then had the mysterious disappearance in the tourney. I’ve watched a ton of college basketball throughout my life. I’ve been mistaken a few times in either direction - but I’ve never been more sure of a bust than cam reddish. If he even ever becomes a regular 20 min/game player on a 40+ win team I will have an enormous helping of crow. But that crow will never see my plate. Ever. That’s how badly this kid is overrated. I almost feel bad saying this about a kid. But that’s how bad he is.
 

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Here’s his game logs. Read through them.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/cam-reddish-1/gamelog/

6 of 36 games where he shot .500 or better

26 of 36 games with 4 or fewer rebounds (17 of which were 3 or fewer)

Less than 40% in just 2 pointers

33% on 3’s and that’s his specialty

And his man defense was just atrocious.

And he averaged almost 3 turnovers per game.
 

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You honestly think White is as good of a prospect as Garland?
I like Garland more than White but the fact that Garland is a Klutch client with only 5 games of College under his belt (13 asst and 15 turnovers) and is recovering from knee surgery definitely shortens the gap.
 
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Given that he played for Duke I watched a TON of his LONE season in college where he routinely sucked and then had the mysterious disappearance in the tourney. I’ve watched a ton of college basketball throughout my life. I’ve been mistaken a few times in either direction - but I’ve never been more sure of a bust than cam reddish. If he even ever becomes a regular 20 min/game player on a 40+ win team I will have an enormous helping of crow. But that crow will never see my plate. Ever. That’s how badly this kid is overrated. I almost feel bad saying this about a kid. But that’s how bad he is.

That's what I've seen too but I don't know how to view him in light of the news that he played all season with a core muscle injury.
 

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The Suns traded Bledsoe and fired Watson largely because of Rich Paul, we're not going to draft another PG he reps, especially when there is another PG who projects to be on the same level as him available.

I think White will have a much better career than Garland but I'm surprised so many are overlooking the Rich Paul connection.
 

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That's what I've seen too but I don't know how to view him in light of the news that he played all season with a core muscle injury.
Hmm this is the first I’ve heard of that. But I’m going to say that sounds awfully convenient coming out now.
 

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Hmm this is the first I’ve heard of that. But I’m going to say that sounds awfully convenient coming out now.

I don't know much more than he is having surgery for it and he'll be out for about 6 weeks. I think the injury and the surgery are legit, I just don't know how much of a factor it played in his performance this season.
 

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Well, I just googled the injury on Reddish and didn't learn any more but the reports I see now refer to it as a minor procedure.
 

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I don't know much more than he is having surgery for it and he'll be out for about 6 weeks. I think the injury and the surgery are legit, I just don't know how much of a factor it played in his performance this season.
Well that’s something.
 

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I find it hard to believe Gambo knows how the Pelicans plan on using that pick already. All accounts were that Griffin wanted to keep Lonzo to pair him with Holiday, which makes some sense, but drafting a PG with their new pick doesn't make sense. I could see them holding onto it on the off chance that Barrett slips, which could happen, but they could also work a trade with someone contingent on Barrett being off the board as well. I don't know why they pushed for the #4 pick to draft White, who has been projected between 6-10 on almost all mocks. I wouldn't put much weight in Gambo's comments right now.
 

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I find it hard to believe Gambo knows how the Pelicans plan on using that pick already. All accounts were that Griffin wanted to keep Lonzo to pair him with Holiday, which makes some sense, but drafting a PG with their new pick doesn't make sense. I could see them holding onto it on the off chance that Barrett slips, which could happen, but they could also work a trade with someone contingent on Barrett being off the board as well. I don't know why they pushed for the #4 pick to draft White, who has been projected between 6-10 on almost all mocks. I wouldn't put much weight in Gambo's comments right now.

He's friends with Griffin and he was his source for the Kyrie to Phoenix rumors before Griffin got axed. Gambo was adamant that the Cavs wanted Bledsoe, the #4, and another pick and would reference talking to Cleveland.

Also, it's not too hard to imagine the Suns being one of the teams that is reportedly interested in swapping picks with NOLA. If Griffin knows we want White, then leaking they would take him at #4 or trade the pick to a team with unknown intentions may get Phoenix to pay up.
 
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Then why bother? Seriously. You think the workouts are just publicity? How can you even think that after seeing the list of guys we’ve brought in this summer so far?
It’s a chance for the staff to meet and get to know the player. Which I think is useful to the team.

How a guy “looks” in workouts however, it’s garbage. Workouts are not basketball.
 

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I find it hard to believe Gambo knows how the Pelicans plan on using that pick already. All accounts were that Griffin wanted to keep Lonzo to pair him with Holiday, which makes some sense, but drafting a PG with their new pick doesn't make sense. I could see them holding onto it on the off chance that Barrett slips, which could happen, but they could also work a trade with someone contingent on Barrett being off the board as well. I don't know why they pushed for the #4 pick to draft White, who has been projected between 6-10 on almost all mocks. I wouldn't put much weight in Gambo's comments right now.
Gambo’s two biggest sources are probably New Orleans and Boston. He has a pretty solid track record with news about both of those teams. Assuming that the Pelicans still plan for on working out some players before the draft though it could easily change between now and then.
 

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Gambo’s two biggest sources are probably New Orleans and Boston. He has a pretty solid track record with news about both of those teams. Assuming that the Pelicans still plan for on working out some players before the draft though it could easily change between now and then.

I think he knows some Knicks guys as well.
 

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It’s a chance for the staff to meet and get to know the player. Which I think is useful to the team.

How a guy “looks” in workouts however, it’s garbage. Workouts are not basketball.
Again, why bother? If you spend 2 hours on a workout and another 30 minutes to get to know the player, why waste the time in the 2-hour workout?
 

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