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[slinslin]

A "shooter" with poor shooting numbers on a team where he wasn't even close to the focal point of the opposing defense. Yeah I will take a hard pass on Reddish.

Freethrow% is what you need to look at

Reddish projected 3pt% in the NBA is 38%. That is very good.

 

[slinslin]

Garland played 5 games before getting hurt, his stats are off a small sample size. But he is a very good ball handler shooter, like elite at those two skills, which means he will have no problem getting his shot off.

I don’t think white is particularly good at anything And he is the worse athlete. I see him as a bad starter or bench player in the nba.

Garland only shot 75% freethrows in those games and averaged less assists than turnovers..

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

It isnt really

Scoring near the rim is as important if not more

My point is that the value of the 3 point shot is only going up every year. Obviously for spacing purposes you still need to be able to score around the basket. In Garland's case I think he has the touch to be a good finesse finisher around the basket and ultimately be decent scoring in that area. He may never be a guy that bulls his way through defenders but he won't have to if he has great touch and feel around the basket.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Garland only shot 75% freethrows in those games and averaged less assists than turnovers..

Garland essentially played 4 games last year. That is not enough to use his stats to paint a picture either positive or negative.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Freethrow% is what you need to look at

Reddish projected 3pt% in the NBA is 38%. That is very good.

Reddish was a 77% FT shooter and a 33% three point shooter. Not sure how that determines that he will be a 38% NBA shooter. Garland in his small sample was nearly the same from the FT line and WAY better from 3.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Garland played 5 games before getting hurt, his stats are off a small sample size. But he is a very good ball handler shooter, like elite at those two skills, which means he will have no problem getting his shot off.

I don’t think white is particularly good at anything And he is the worse athlete. I see him as a bad starter or bench player in the nba.

This--all day long.

 

[slinslin]

Draft Reddish

Trade
Jackson and Warren


This way we have 2 typical 3&D Wings plus Oubre and Booker

 

[Proximo]

Garland only shot 75% freethrows in those games and averaged less assists than turnovers..

It’s 5 games. He also shot 49 % from 3 but we know that is higher than it would have been over the whole season.

I am not saying he is a great prospect, just the best one likely to be available.

 

[1Sun]

No he is not

Terrible rebounder, gets no steals or blocks

That is a gigantic red flag

Hunter's most frequent comp is Thaddeus Young, only with longer arms. I think we would all take that.

 

[slinslin]

Reddish was a 77% FT shooter and a 33% three point shooter. Not sure how that determines that he will be a 38% NBA shooter. Garland in his small sample was nearly the same from the FT line and WAY better from 3.

I dont need to explain to you the details of the prediction algorithm but it is a little bit more sophisticated than just looking at 3pt% and FT% for one thing it also accounts volume and Reddish took 7.4 3pta per game, more than half of his overall attempts.

Draft Reddish - trade Warren and Jackson.

Our 2/3 rotation is Booker, Oubre, Bridges, Reddish

I dont think I can be convinced on Garland. He is so frail, bad injury, Rich Paul client... He looks like a 3 year project and we have been terrible at getting our guys to beef up.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

You don't need to, but please do. Because it makes pretty much no sense to me that 77% and 33% equals good and 75% and 48% somehow equals bad.

 

[slinslin]

You don't need to, but please do. Because it makes pretty much no sense to me that 77% and 33% equals good and 75% and 48% somehow equals bad.

because freethrow percetage is the more important indicator to how shooting translates and Garland took only 4.6 3pt attempts in thos games compared to Reddish 7.4

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

because freethrow percetage is the more important indicator to how shooting translates and Garland took only 4.6 3pt attempts in thos games compared to Reddish 7.4

Their FT% was damn near identical and Reddish had a poor 3P% from the college 3. How that somehow translates to an even higher percentage from the longer NBA 3 completely defies logic. I could see the argument if he was at least pushing close to 38% in college and with less attempts in the NBA he could maintain that percentage because they would be better looks, but that isn't the case.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I like White. I saw a report we may be ready to trade for Love.

Uuuuuugh!!!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I like White. I saw a report we may be ready to trade for Love.

Crap - this is James jones homey-ism coming to haunt us.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

That's not bad...I'm not so chopped up because of it. A decent pg could do wonders for this team. I was just reading Garland is a little like Doncic.

WHAT?!?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

They might take Culver or Hunter.

Ugh this is awful.

I don’t understand the culver talk. Not a great shooter, not a great ball handler. Not a great athlete. Uh what?!?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

https://thesmokingcuban.com/2019/05/14/nba-draft-2019-darius-garland-luka-doncic/

Meh that’s terrible analysis. If he ends up being great the only real comparison is that perhaps they were drafted lower than should have.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Well guess Garland is our guy... he has potential if he can stay healthy

Would cam reddish be possible

GOD NO CAM REDDISH!!!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Why not trade for a vet PG and take someone like Hunter or one of the Gonzaga PF's? Guess it depends who's on the open market at either PG or PF.

Hunter and the zags are tweeners. Fit right in with JJ, oubre, Bridges, and warren. Yawn.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Freethrow% is what you need to look at

Reddish projected 3pt% in the NBA is 38%. That is very good.

Lol. “Projected 3pt%” . . . ignoring what he ACTUALLY shot in a less competitive league with a shorter 3 point line. Oooookay.

 

[Proximo]

Hunter's most frequent comp is Thaddeus Young, only with longer arms. I think we would all take that.

Thad young is the other power forward Gambo said we had interest in today.

GOD NO CAM REDDISH!!!

I don’t know what to think about reddish. He was trash at duke, but he was really highly regarded coming out of high school.

I think I would stay away. If he can’t play well when he is not the man, it doesn’t bode well for him in the nba.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Thad young is the other power forward Gambo said we had interest in today.


I don’t know what to think about reddish. He was trash at duke, but he was really highly regarded coming out of high school.

I think I would stay away. If he can’t play well when he is not the man, it doesn’t bode well for him in the nba.

The knock on him coming outta high school was he wasn’t aggressive. And guess what? That became even worse at Duke. Shocking! And his vaunted 3pt shooting failed to manifest itself, all while playing alongside two other dudes attracting all the attention. HARD PASS.

 

[1Sun]

Thad young is the other power forward Gambo said we had interest in today.


I don’t know what to think about reddish. He was trash at duke, but he was really highly regarded coming out of high school.

I think I would stay away. If he can’t play well when he is not the man, it doesn’t bode well for him in the nba.

If there is any way to get at least an average veteran point guard and Thaddeus Young and use #6 to draft Hunter to learn from Young, I would call that a very successful offseason, especially if we re-up Oubre in the process.

 

[slinslin]

Lol. “Projected 3pt%” . . . ignoring what he ACTUALLY shot in a less competitive league with a shorter 3 point line. Oooookay.

you have simply no idea

it is a proven concept that 3pt% in college is a poor indicator for 3pt% at the NBA level. Projected 3pt% is a well established prediction tool.

But go ahead believe in your 40% college 3 shooters like Lonzo Ball or Markelle Fultz. Looking at the 3pt% in isolation tells you nothing.