Hardy suspended for 10 games

[Cheesebeef]

Almost guarantee she only got involved for his $$$ anyway... She got her wish

Shane, I love ya buddy, but this is an Ugly statement. This almost reads like she deserved what she got.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

By no means did she deserve beaten at all but did you read the deadspin article? She's no saint herself. And, I think this is what Shane may have meant, she's obviously happy with the settlement and got what she wanted. Otherwise, I'm sure she'd be coming forward and it would be a whole different story for Hardy because he'd be behind bars.

 

[Cheesebeef]

By no means did she deserve beaten at all but did you read the deadspin article? She's no saint herself. And, I think this is what Shane may have meant, she's obviously happy with the settlement and got what she wanted. Otherwise, I'm sure she'd be coming forward and it would be a whole different story for Hardy because he'd be behind bars.

yeah... this reads even worse, IMO.

 

[Russ Smith]

By no means did she deserve beaten at all but did you read the deadspin article? She's no saint herself. And, I think this is what Shane may have meant, she's obviously happy with the settlement and got what she wanted. Otherwise, I'm sure she'd be coming forward and it would be a whole different story for Hardy because he'd be behind bars.

If people have ever known a victim of domestic abuse I don't see how they think that. MOst victims don't come forward, most of the ones who do then retract their statements.

most of them are not in it for money, most of them are in it because they love the person but the person is abusive and it makes it incredibly difficult for them to just turn the person in. Plus many that do turn the person in then watch the legal system let them go.

If kids are involved it's even worse.

I hate it when people start nitpicking the victim, Greg Hardy is a despicable human being, that Jerry Jones signed him goes to show the mindset of win at all costs.

 

[GuernseyCard]

If people have ever known a victim of domestic abuse I don't see how they think that. MOst victims don't come forward, most of the ones who do then retract their statements.

most of them are not in it for money, most of them are in it because they love the person but the person is abusive and it makes it incredibly difficult for them to just turn the person in. Plus many that do turn the person in then watch the legal system let them go.

If kids are involved it's even worse.

I hate it when people start nitpicking the victim, Greg Hardy is a despicable human being, that Jerry Jones signed him goes to show the mindset of win at all costs.

A few weeks back, Jerry called him a team leader that he wants to extend.

 

[jmt]

Well at least the Cowpies continue to lose.

 

[Buckybird]

A few weeks back, Jerry called him a team leader that he wants to extend.

Whatever happened to the NFLs stance years ago that your team would be punished & held accountable for have such idiots on your team?

 

[Cheesebeef]

If people have ever known a victim of domestic abuse I don't see how they think that. MOst victims don't come forward, most of the ones who do then retract their statements.

most of them are not in it for money, most of them are in it because they love the person but the person is abusive and it makes it incredibly difficult for them to just turn the person in. Plus many that do turn the person in then watch the legal system let them go.

If kids are involved it's even worse.

I hate it when people start nitpicking the victim, Greg Hardy is a despicable human being, that Jerry Jones signed him goes to show the mindset of win at all costs.

bingo. the whole "she was no saint", "she got what she wanted" stuff is pretty gross, IMO.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

If people have ever known a victim of domestic abuse I don't see how they think that. MOst victims don't come forward, most of the ones who do then retract their statements.

most of them are not in it for money, most of them are in it because they love the person but the person is abusive and it makes it incredibly difficult for them to just turn the person in. Plus many that do turn the person in then watch the legal system let them go.

If kids are involved it's even worse.

I hate it when people start nitpicking the victim, Greg Hardy is a despicable human being, that Jerry Jones signed him goes to show the mindset of win at all costs.

I agree and wasn't nitpicking the victim. Every situation is different. However, her getting paid off and no longer cooperating derailed the case. Which means she was cooperating at one time and even led to a bench conviction. I'm not disparaging her at all, or saying that she deserved getting beat, or was originally in it for the money, but she found an acceptable settlement to her and moved on.

I wish she would have kept pressing forward and had him prosecuted but, you're right in that there's always a chance he'd would have gotten off lightly in the court system anyway.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

bingo. the whole "she was no saint", "she got what she wanted" stuff is pretty gross, IMO.

How's the view on that high horse. Where does saying she was no saint imply that deserved to get beaten or did you miss the opening sentence?

She's not a saint, read the article, but that has no bearing on the case.

 

[Buckybird]

I agree and wasn't nitpicking the victim. Every situation is different. However, her getting paid off and no longer cooperating derailed the case. Which means she was cooperating at one time and even led to a bench conviction. I'm not disparaging her at all, or saying that she deserved getting beat, or was originally in it for the money, but she found an acceptable settlement to her and moved on.

I wish she would have kept pressing forward and had him prosecuted but, you're right in that there's always a chance he'd would have gotten off lightly in the court system anyway.

I think 99% of women who are abused are too scared of further violence, even death or too embarrassed that it happened to them. Sad, but I don't anyone should get off free for beating a woman.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I think 99% of women who are abused are too scared of further violence, even death or too embarrassed that it happened to them. Sad, but I don't anyone should get off free for beating a woman.

I agree and I wish they could build a case from the other woman who came forward as a witness. But I can see where it would be very hard to build a case without the victim.

I wonder if Jones will succumb to public pressure and release him. In reality, he should release him, or never signed in the first place for that matter, based solely on principal.

It will also be interesting to see how the fans react to Hardy when he's on the field. I don't see how they can cheer the guy but it won't surprise me when they do after he sacks Bradford for a 10 yard loss.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I remember hearing some commentator, maybe Schefter, a while back saying what Hardy did to this girl was even worse than the Ray Rice incident and that the only reason he was getting back into the league is because there was no pubic video of the incident like with Rice. Now that these pictures have come to the forefront I think it will be very difficult for Jones to keep him.

But, you know, good ole Jerry is just giving him a second chance. What a clown.

 

[Russ Smith]

I think 99% of women who are abused are too scared of further violence, even death or too embarrassed that it happened to them. Sad, but I don't anyone should get off free for beating a woman.

That's why in many states they will prosecute even after the woman drops it if they have enough evidence without her testimony. They understand the dynamic and the natural tendency of the woman to want to give the guy another chance.

Unfortunately Hardy apparently was not one of those people who still got prosecuted.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Let's say she was in the relationship for money, still changes nothing of Hardy's action. Put it this way, if she was a friend or a relative, the stance of 'money' would still not make one forgive Hardy for his extreme actions, and seeing his recent spat on the sidelines confirms his mental insanity and issues with violence that even exceeds the bounds of aggression on a football field where it is especially such people who should have control once the whistle blows with their physical attributes... he pulled that crap during a game with his own coach, that is a red flag the NFL should act on when it continues to happen on their own stage if their circus called a judgment committee is really sincere!

 

[Cheesebeef]

How's the view on that high horse.

I already told you the view was pretty ugly. Why ask again?

Where does saying she was no saint imply that deserved to get beaten or did you miss the opening sentence?

She's not a saint, read the article, but that has no bearing on the case.

then why bring it up? you bring up that she's not a saint and that she got what she wanted... it's pretty easy to make the leap that you think in some way shape or form, she brought this on herself. bottom line, no one wants to take a beating in order to get money. That's my opinion. If it bothers you, so be it.

 

[Shane]

Shane, I love ya buddy, but this is an Ugly statement. This almost reads like she deserved what she got.

Not at all ... Just stating what I believe... No doubt in my mind she was a $$$ chaser and in the end she got it... May not have been how she wanted but she got it none the less... In no way shape or form am i implying "she deserved what she got"

 

[Shane]

If people have ever known a victim of domestic abuse I don't see how they think that. MOst victims don't come forward, most of the ones who do then retract their statements.

most of them are not in it for money, most of them are in it because they love the person but the person is abusive and it makes it incredibly difficult for them to just turn the person in. Plus many that do turn the person in then watch the legal system let them go.

If kids are involved it's even worse.

I hate it when people start nitpicking the victim, Greg Hardy is a despicable human being, that Jerry Jones signed him goes to show the mindset of win at all costs.

The way this went down it wreaks of a money grab and the refusal to testify in no way shape or form is in the same vein as the instances your citing above in other cases. Which are common. No doubt.

 

[Shane]

I agree and I wish they could build a case from the other woman who came forward as a witness. But I can see where it would be very hard to build a case without the victim.

I wonder if Jones will succumb to public pressure and release him. In reality, he should release him, or never signed in the first place for that matter, based solely on principal.

It will also be interesting to see how the fans react to Hardy when he's on the field. I don't see how they can cheer the guy but it won't surprise me when they do after he sacks Bradford for a 10 yard loss.

You definitely don't need the victim to convict in a DV case.... A witness is a perfect way to convict... However her being that girls friend one would assume she's going to do what her friends requesting so she can get her payday...

 

[dreamcastrocks]

By no means did she deserve beaten at all but did you read the deadspin article? She's no saint herself. And, I think this is what Shane may have meant, she's obviously happy with the settlement and got what she wanted. Otherwise, I'm sure she'd be coming forward and it would be a whole different story for Hardy because he'd be behind bars.

Id be willing to get beat for enough money. Anyone got spare dough and want to kick my ass?

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Id be willing to get beat for enough money. Anyone got spare dough and want to kick my ass?

 

[cardncubfan]

I think 99% of women who are abused are too scared of further violence, even death or too embarrassed that it happened to them. Sad, but I don't anyone should get off free for beating a woman.

+1

 

[Dback Jon]

Id be willing to get beat for enough money. Anyone got spare dough and want to kick my ass?

If I win the lottery you'll be on the list

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I already told you the view was pretty ugly. Why ask again?



then why bring it up? you bring up that she's not a saint and that she got what she wanted... it's pretty easy to make the leap that you think in some way shape or form, she brought this on herself. bottom line, no one wants to take a beating in order to get money. That's my opinion. If it bothers you, so be it.

It's YOUR opinion that I think she brought it upon herself, which I've said, repeatedly, is not the case. But, whatever, I'm pretty happy and secure with my moral compass.

 

[Darkside]

I used to disagree with Shane on these domestic violence cases, but he's been more accurate than not when it comes to athletes and money grabs. I'm also fairly confident he's seen more DV cases than we have and heard much more from his buddies in uniform.

I'd also like to remind people that Steve McNair went to his fwb house and took a freaking nap before she shot him to death in his sleep.

I'm not defending Hardy, he's a despicable human I'm sure. But she had the option of punishing him for violating her and she took the money instead. That's not in dispute.


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