LOL: Cardinals Film Room - Jonathan Cooper Fails to Block Anyone

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i think it's threads like these which is why people have issues K9. Seems like you're really looking to make it abundantly clear (beyond words) how bad Cooper's been. I think that opinion has been made crystal clear at this point. Feeling like you're getting dead horse flack.
 

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i think it's threads like these which is why people have issues K9. Seems like you're really looking to make it abundantly clear (beyond words) how bad Cooper's been. I think that opinion has been made crystal clear at this point. Feeling like you're getting dead horse flack.

It's exacerbated by the fact that this was a successful play. If Cooper's bad play is going to continue to give us 21 yard runs then I'm not going to be too upset.
 
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i think it's threads like these which is why people have issues K9. Seems like you're really looking to make it abundantly clear (beyond words) how bad Cooper's been. I think that opinion has been made crystal clear at this point. Feeling like you're getting dead horse flack.

I guess it just depends on whether people are actually looking at the evidence in play. I agree that I was being glib on the subject line and OP. But still--this is an opportunity that the Arizona Cardinals organization picked out to highlight one play per week, and it's a play where the defensive end has a free pass at the running lane because Cooper failed to block him.
 

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I guess it just depends on whether people are actually looking at the evidence in play. I agree that I was being glib on the subject line and OP. But still--this is an opportunity that the Arizona Cardinals organization picked out to highlight one play per week, and it's a play where the defensive end has a free pass at the running lane because Cooper failed to block him.

i get it... but starting an entire thread about it could be construed as obsessive.
 

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There is no one remotely near for Cooper to block. There is no defensive even close to that runner. Are we even watching the same play? Bogus crit. Yikes. The O-line blocks about as perfectly as you can get on this play. Ted Larsen engages the LB and starts to move him right, not sure why the RB didn't go left.
 
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Finding flaws with guys like Cooper and Minter is K9's only hope of proving his once loud and now laughable theory that Steve Keim is a terrible GM.
 

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Looks like Cooper didn't recognize the Dline stunt quickly enough, he should have taken 94 but the stunt took 94 pretty much out of the play anyway.

It did take Cooper too long to recognize the stunt and then too long to figure what he should do next (like go hit someone on the 2nd level or ensure no one catches Taylor from behind.
 
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There is no one remotely near for Cooper to block. There is no defensive even close to that runner. Are we even watching the same play? Bogus crit. Yikes.

It's probably not because Quinn got totally away from him that Cooper turns completely around. That's probably ideal offensive line technique that no one else in the NFL uses.

Finding flaws with guys like Cooper and Minter is K9's only hope of proving his once loud and now laughable theory that Steve Keim is a terrible GM.

Keep pounding that drum, brother. Some of us are capable of reviewing the evidence and changing our opinions. :shrug:
 

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"Look look look! Another flaw I found with Cooper!! He's hot garbage! Validate my stance!!"
 

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I believe the number of threads that I've started on Cooper specifically currently stands at or around 1.

and that's fine... but if you can't see that the overwhelming majority of your posts seem to be about ripping the kid to shreds, I think you're in a little bit of denial.
 

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What is with some of you jerks? You seem to be on here just looking for any poster you can criticize. If you don't want to reply or comment on a person's thread or post, then don't. I doubt many of those who continually bash other posters on here are in Mensa.

People are just trying to liven up the site sometimes or add something when the site is somewhat dead. Not all posts have to be to your particular liking. It seems like some of you spend so much time on here judging other people and their posts, I would think you probably do that on all sites you visit. Why not get a real life and go out in the world and converse with real live people?

Why not stop judging people and simply comment on the Cardinals and what the guy is trying to say without attacking him personally. If you disagree with the content of his post, fine. Say so in a constructive way. Not all posts are gems for your personal entertainment.

LIGHTEN UP and try a little decent kindness and courtesy. How in hell can some of you have such disdain for another poster. You aren't Gods, just a fellow human being looking for a little distraction from real life and what is really important in the world.

Sorry, but this is way overdue to be said.
 

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The pictures are amusing.

I have backed off K9 a lot, I think his weekly posts are pretty good. Besides, he's already taken his lumps for his fist pounding re: D-Wash (pre-suspension of course).
 

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What I see in that play is not that Cooper missed the block, but he we going on his left and the d lineman's right to push him out to the outside but the d lineman went outside rather then inside and basically helped Cooper with where he wanted him to go. Yes he should have contained him better, but he didn't really have to. If the d lineman came into where Taylor was running, Cooper had him blocked. It may not look great there, but it would have worked either way. That's what I see.

Also, why is everyone acting all pissed off at each other? We are 11-3 and you would think we would all be estactic, but yet, ever one is at each others throats?? Cool it and enjoy what the Cards have done! So if they win the Super Bowl, will everyone picker about the win? Stop it really.
 

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i think it's threads like these which is why people have issues K9. Seems like you're really looking to make it abundantly clear (beyond words) how bad Cooper's been. I think that opinion has been made crystal clear at this point. Feeling like you're getting dead horse flack.

To be fair, the debate has gotten to this point. The conversation has essentially gone from here is my thought. Someone else saying that is not right, and you are being unfair. To further proof being put forward. Then, a flat out refusal to believe that the proof put forward reflects the overall play. To providing a detailed breakdown of the game in writing. That has been followed up with I don't see it that way and you are wrong. To now, a video being put forward. And as you can read, continued denial that this is reflective of Cooper's play overall.
 

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Quinn had to run around all the garbage then circle back and try to catch Taylor from behind, so even though Cooper didn't touch him, he didn't allow him to blow up the play either.

But it is certainly true that if Cooper handled it better, Quinn would have had no remote chance of either running around really quickly and getting Taylor, or running him down from behind.

I have to say it's refreshing that on a run like that we are discussing what the OL should have done, usually Shane is telling us all how slow Taylor is and how any other RB in the NFL would have scored.

:D
 

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I should add this is starting to border the nutjob territory of that guy on here many years ago who just wouldn't stop pointing out how poorly Jake Plummer played and how much of it was because he didn't put in the time during the week and in the offseason, so he was prepared on Sundays.

Whatever happened to that psycho anyways?
 

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You can also say if John Brown blocked the CB that was taking him, that could have been a TD run.

I hope I don't have to close this thread.....
 

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You can also say if John Brown blocked the CB that was taking him, that could have been a TD run.

I hope I don't have to close this thread.....

Just to be clear Shaggy, the nutjob/psycho I referred to in my last post, is me.
 

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You can also say if John Brown blocked the CB that was taking him, that could have been a TD run.

I hope I don't have to close this thread.....


I would if I were you.
 

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I guess it just depends on whether people are actually looking at the evidence in play. I agree that I was being glib on the subject line and OP. But still--this is an opportunity that the Arizona Cardinals organization picked out to highlight one play per week, and it's a play where the defensive end has a free pass at the running lane because Cooper failed to block him.

Huh? I don't see it that way at all... You are seriously reaching here dude...
 

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Looked like the Rams were actually playing pass on that play. The stunt caused Quinn to over run the play. Aaron Donald blew by Massie on his way to the quarterback. That was two Rams who took themselves out of the play.

On a running play, Quinn was probably Cooper's assignment. Don't need to have a pocket for the quarterback to step up into. So there is no need for zone blocking.

Fells who was most likely in the game to give Lindley a familiar target really made that play. He chipped the defensive end allowing Fitzgerald to get position and then made a block on the second level. Would Housler have even touch anybody on that play?
 
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