LOL: Cardinals Film Room - Jonathan Cooper Fails to Block Anyone

[Reddog]

I was expecting something worse. Looks like he got to the DT and the stunt came across his face so fast that he couldn't catch him in time. Not as bad as the DE overrunning the hole by two yards.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

The best part of the article is Kulabafi at the end, basically saying what K9 has been suggesting all season about the type of RB he is:

Taylor said he often excels late in the game after getting consistent carries: “I’m used to in the past having a workload, and as the game goes on, you see how they’re trying to tackle you, you feel how they’re playing, you see how they react. Also, if I come downhill and give them a hit, they’re not going to want to come up that same way the next time, so then you try to play off of that. As the game goes, I feel like I get stronger. You get used to things, everything slows down. You get a feel of how they do. It’s also setting the tone. You want the opportunity to come in and buck somebody, let them know you’re there. They’ll be a little hesitant the next time, and then if they’re not and they fly in to try to (match the power), it’s easy for me to make a move."

 

[DeAnna]

Just to be clear Shaggy, the nutjob/psycho I referred to in my last post, is me.

Hahaha .. when I saw Plummer at the stadium shaking hands and hugging Mike Bidwill I thought of you .. how you would get heartburn if you saw that, lol

 

[Red Dawn]

I should add this is starting to border the nutjob territory of that guy on here many years ago who just wouldn't stop pointing out how poorly Jake Plummer played and how much of it was because he didn't put in the time during the week and in the offseason, so he was prepared on Sundays.

Whatever happened to that psycho anyways?

This is the first thing I thought of when you said nutjob and Jake Plummer in the same sentence:

 

[splitsecond]

good lord I just barely figured out who Kulabafi is haha

 

[Cheesebeef]

This is the first thing I thought of when you said nutjob and Jake Plummer in the same sentence:

my first thought was Lex.

tango... that guy was amazing... simply amazing!

 

[football karma]

Based on what Larsen noted, it seems Like this play was designed to follow Cooper -- but Larsen noted that Taylor opted to take it backside--

 

[football karma]

Watching th clip It's an interesting play: the o line's first move was to stand up like they were in pass pro

On the Cards left: Hayes (?) was lined up between Sendlein and Cooper. Lauranitis was standing over Coopers left shoulder. Quinn was well wide of Veldheer. On the snap, Hayes and Lauranitis push left hard while Quinn loops to the Cards right. Rams reacted like it was a pass and were running a stunt.

Sendlein takes Hayes. Cooper takes Lauranitis -- until Laranitis was handed off to Veldheer as Lauranitis rushed left on the stunt. I guess Cooper could have then headed to the second level, but at that point, there was no one left at the LOS.

If anyone really whiffed on a block, it was Massie on Aaron Donald. Fortunately it was on the backside of the play, and Donald seemed to be QB focused.

 

[Cardiac]

Watching th clip It's an interesting play: the o line's first move was to stand up like they were in pass pro

On the Cards left: Hayes (?) was lined up between Sendlein and Cooper. Lauranitis was standing over Coopers left shoulder. Quinn was well wide of Veldheer. On the snap, Hayes and Lauranitis push left hard while Quinn loops to the Cards right. Rams reacted like it was a pass and were running a stunt.

Sendlein takes Hayes. Cooper takes Lauranitis -- until Laranitis was handed off to Veldheer as Lauranitis rushed left on the stunt. I guess Cooper could have then headed to the second level, but at that point, there was no one left at the LOS.

If anyone really whiffed on a block, it was Massie on Aaron Donald. Fortunately it was on the backside of the play, and Donald seemed to be QB focused.

This. I originally thought Cooper didn't see the stunt in time and should have not worried about helping Veldheer but your explanation makes more sense. Point remains that Cooper may have looked like a monkey humping a football but it wasn't nearly as bad as it appeared.

 

[cardncubfan]

What I see in that play is not that Cooper missed the block, but he we going on his left and the d lineman's right to push him out to the outside but the d lineman went outside rather then inside and basically helped Cooper with where he wanted him to go. Yes he should have contained him better, but he didn't really have to. If the d lineman came into where Taylor was running, Cooper had him blocked. It may not look great there, but it would have worked either way. That's what I see.

Also, why is everyone acting all pissed off at each other? We are 11-3 and you would think we would all be estactic, but yet, ever one is at each others throats?? Cool it and enjoy what the Cards have done! So if they win the Super Bowl, will everyone picker about the win? Stop it really.

This. I've seen less bickering on this site when we were 8-8 or 5-11.

 

[CardsFan88]

I noticed this live and was like... how did we do so good on the play with Cooper so clueless.

 

[PACardsFan]

I was home sick today, so I watched a replay of Thursday's game. I actually came away pleased with how Cooper played. It wasn't perfect, but it was better than advertised on this board. I'm eager to see how he does the rest of this season.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

This. I've seen less bickering on this site when we were 8-8 or 5-11.

I think it's because of the lack of respect our team gets, all the adversity throughout the year--starting in the offseason--and being amped up because folks want the team to kick the crap out if the SheHags. Couple this with the fact a loss likely has the team on the road in the playoffs vs the Saints and you've hit the recipe for blown tops.

Plus, it's the holiday season when it's all about the gas face.

 

[NJCardFan]

If you're going to rip Cooper, this wasn't the play. The one where Stanton got hurt was worse when he essentially blocked Sandlein causing 2 Rams to have unfettered access to Stanton.

 

[WildBB]

The play call probably had something to do with it. If it was between the center guard gap then yeah, I've seen vets just funnel rushers without blocking them IF the rushers are taking themselves out of the play, as seems to be the case here.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

i get it... but starting an entire thread about it could be construed as obsessive.

That can be said about a lot of posters, and a lot of topics on this board.

Its kind of like going to an AA meeting and saying people talk to much about drinking. LOL.

Brought to you by another fan that has been obsessive over the Caridnals offensive line for almost a decade.

Cooper is a disappointment so far, IMHO, and I haven't even watched the clip yet.

EDIT: Yeah, saw that during the game and giggled. Not sure he was confused or if there was no one to block, but put a hat on someone. To be fair he had a few nice plays in this game. He needs some polished tho. He will pull well then hit the guy high and without any technique, which is odd because in his rookie year I remember him steam rolling guys.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

The pictures are amusing.

I have backed off K9 a lot, I think his weekly posts are pretty good. Besides, he's already taken his lumps for his fist pounding re: D-Wash (pre-suspension of course).

Agreed. People are acting like he doesn't eat his crow when it is due, but all the while his avatar prove he does.

At least he makes opinions and stands by them. I personally am disappointed in Cooper as well, and to be fair, K9 was EXTREMELY excited about Coopers play before he got hurt his rookie year. Why ? Cause Cooper looked about 10x better than he does now for some reason or another. Its great that the Cardinals line played well last week, but their run game has been pretty poor most of the season, and the guard situation is a mess. They are not very good at that position, and they have put a lot of time and effort into it over the last season or two. Its getting there, it is vastly improved from Russ Grimm and his moronic leadership.

The two things about Cooper that bother me is that he: 1. Finds himself on the ground too much, 2. plays WAY to high right now. But, he is young, and has been oft injured. Adrian Wilson taught me that sometimes it is worth waiting till the 4th year for a player. LOL, I remember posting a thread about how we needed to get rid of Wilson after his 3rd year, and now his jersey is the only Cardinals football jersey I own.....happy to be wrong about that one.

So K9 is wrong about something (DWaste), so what.

I have personally went out and fixated on issues, and have been "too negative" on this and "too positive" on that.

Its easy to sit back and play thumbs up and thumbs down towards people's opinion. I think some of the complainers should write up there own threads with their own opinions, see what it is like to be the presenter of information and not just these two guys:

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Brought to you by the hypocrite that I am right now, since I have been quite busy this year, and am currently sitting in said balcony ! So thumbs down for this thread going from discussing Cooper to K9 bashing.........which I am guilty of too. Steve Smith. LOL.

Just my two cents guys, now play nice

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I haven't been a fan of Cooper's play so far. The run game coincidentally picked up when he was inserted and I don't know if there is any correlation, or not. But that is a fact.

This particular play, I think is more of a good design by the Rams than a bad play by Cooper. He engaged his man off the snap and then passed him on to Veldheer. I think it he'll recognize stunts quicker with more time but I think many OG's would have struggled to pick up Quinn on this play. It looks to me like he should have slid to Sendlein's guy and then Sendlein take on the free charging Quinn.

Still, like I have said many times, judging/grading the OL is pointless without knowing the line calls and responsibilities of every OL each play.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Also, why is everyone acting all pissed off at each other? We are 11-3 and you would think we would all be estactic, but yet, ever one is at each others throats?? Cool it and enjoy what the Cards have done! So if they win the Super Bowl, will everyone picker about the win? Stop it really.

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Because guard play is important

 

[PACardsFan]

I haven't been a fan of Cooper's play so far. The run game coincidentally picked up when he was inserted and I don't know if there is any correlation, or not. But that is a fact.

This particular play, I think is more of a good design by the Rams than a bad play by Cooper. He engaged his man off the snap and then passed him on to Veldheer. I think it he'll recognize stunts quicker with more time but I think many OG's would have struggled to pick up Quinn on this play. It looks to me like he should have slid to Sendlein's guy and then Sendlein take on the free charging Quinn.

Still, like I have said many times, judging/grading the OL is pointless without knowing the line calls and responsibilities of every OL each play.

I agree!

 

[Garthshort]

Hate is a wonderful thing. Not!!

 

[BullheadCardFan]

. Its getting there, it is vastly improved from Russ Grimm and his moronic leadership.

Most important thing of all. No more Grimm.

I too enjoy K9 and his opinions. I always like to look at the team from all angles. Negative and positive. Helps me to look at them in a more balanced way.

 

[Southpaw]

i get it... but starting an entire thread about it could be construed as obsessive.

obsessive compared to the post drafting of Cooper & Minter and the anointing of them as soon to be All Pros by so many in this forum?

2 examples of why certain positions should not be premium slot draftees. Over valued.

PS. Can we discuss Logan Thomas?

 

[Matt L]

obsessive compared to the post drafting of Cooper & Minter and the anointing of them as soon to be All Pros by so many in this forum?

2 examples of why certain positions should not be premium slot draftees. Over valued.

PS. Can we discuss Logan Thomas?

Completely agree. Let's stop using 1st and 2nd round picks on guards and middle linebackers.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Completely agree. Let's stop using 1st and 2nd round picks on guards and middle linebackers.

Or SS and blocking TE's.