Compensatory picks will be announced this week. Do we get one?

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You are spot on with your explaination but Urban was a RFA and we decided to not tender him, thus its almost like we cut him so he is not a qualifing free agent for comp pick purposes.
That was what i was afraid of when i read the term 'true UFA'. Are you completely sure of this, or can i still be somewhat hopeful that an untendered RFA becomes a UFA and can be taken into the equation after all? After all, the deadline for teams to place tenders are the final day of the previous season, free agency and the new year/season kicks in a day later. Non-tendered players are therefore automatically UFA's in the new year.

But i'm just guessing here.
Now to the more important issue of Dutch Football. I know AZ won the title last year but i was referrring to the domination of Dutch football in general over the last decade by PSV who i believe have won SEVEN out of the last 10. That to me spells domination like no other. Also Feyenoord are a non-contender who were once a decent team but are now a complete joke. I believe we came to your own house and handed you your back-side. The cup in holland is meaningless so i dont even look at that. To be honest its emberassing you're even comparing Feyenoord to PSV as feyenoord ceased to exist in 98 after that the only competition weve had has been Ajax and now AZ/Twente uprising. Comparing the two is an insult its like comparing the current Rams to the Steelers or Patriots and believe me im being generous when i say that as i actually think the Rams are a more competitive team then Feyenoord.
There's only person here that somehow feels the need to compare the sides, and it sure as hell ain't me.

What is with you PSV-supporters? Is it an inferioritycomplex? Lack of acknowledgement after winning all those championships? Is it some weird form of jealousy because, even after all those losing years we still get more media-time? Why do you feel the need to come out and defend your team this ferociously on a Cardinals board of all places, when your team isn't even being attacked in the first place?
 

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From Urban's blog:

Here is AdamJT13’s explanation on the Cards’ situation for this draft: “Arizona signed two qualifying players and lost two qualifying players, so the best the Cardinals could hope for was a net value pick, but as I projected, the difference in values was not enough to warrant one. Had the Cardinals not signed Jason Wright, they would have received a third-round pick for Antonio Smith.” I believe the players were McFadden/Wright vs. Smith/Terrelle Smith.

If true, that totally blows! A 3rd round pick for Jason Wright?
 

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Most fans also dont look at the whole season and most have a perception of what a player has done based on the last game they played, or the last great play they made or the last good one they made.

All I have to do is mention one stat and its end of story - Hood gave up 8 TD's, McFadden gave up 2 TD's.

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There's only person here that somehow feels the need to compare the sides, and it sure as hell ain't me.

What is with you PSV-supporters? Is it an inferioritycomplex? Lack of acknowledgement after winning all those championships? Is it some weird form of jealousy because, even after all those losing years we still get more media-time? Why do you feel the need to come out and defend your team this ferociously on a Cardinals board of all places, when your team isn't even being attacked in the first place?

Relax dude, no need to get your knickers in a twist about this i was merely jesting with you initialy when i mention the PSV-Feyenoord thing but you took it upon yourself to make it debate. Even that there is nothing wrong with as this is a sports board and debating sports is what its all about. Granted we are on the Cardinals board and for that reason shouldnt turn this non-cardinal issue into something big. But come on dude who has need to be jealous here? the team that hasnt won anything for over 12 years or the most dominant team currently in Dutch football? exactly. Media exposure isn't in Feyenoords favour either but even if it was it means f-all as your trophy cabinet is all that matters and thats so empty nowadays there is rumor it may actually be haunted :mulli:

Oh and more thing its actually an honour to defend the team you support and id do it for the Cardinals everyday as well. Thats what being a supporter should be all about.

now lets get back to whats important here and thats

-Cardinals Rule-:D
 
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you're absolutely correct!

I certainly don't do film review, but I'd be hard pressed to find many fans who thought McFadden was easily an upgrade over Hood. Maybe my opinion of him is colored by how he was beaten like a rented mule in the playoffs, or maybe the expectations were high for McFadden, but I'd say he wasn't much of an upgrade at all on Hood.

Letting Hood go for financial reasons really bit us in the ass as the year went on and our depth at DB was shot.

McFadden was NOT an upgrade! Anyone who thinks contrary is an apologist for the guy!
 

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Most fans also dont look at the whole season and most have a perception of what a player has done based on the last game they played

Ha, after getting torched left and right during the playoffs it tends to stick in the memory. Even worse, he was average at best during the regular season as well. He may have been better than Hood, but it's comparing levels of crap. Regardless, Hood should have been kept around as a nickelback.
 

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McFadden was NOT an upgrade! Anyone who thinks contrary is an apologist for the guy!

As Joe pointed out: Hood gave up 8 TD's in 2008, McFadden gave up 2 TD's last season.

How was that NOT an upgrade?

(Anyone who thinks contrary needs remedial math!)
 

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Relax dude, no need to get your knickers in a twist about this i was merely jesting with you initialy when i mention the PSV-Feyenoord thing but you took it upon yourself to make it debate. Even that there is nothing wrong with as this is a sports board and debating sports is what its all about. Granted we are on the Cardinals board and for that reason shouldnt turn this non-cardinal issue into something big. But come on dude who has need to be jealous here? the team that hasnt won anything for over 12 years or the most dominant team currently in Dutch football? exactly. Media exposure isn't in Feyenoords favour either but even if it was it means f-all as your trophy cabinet is all that matters and thats so empty nowadays there is rumor it may actually be haunted :mulli:

Oh and more thing its actually an honour to defend the team you support and id do it for the Cardinals everyday as well. Thats what being a supporter should be all about.

now lets get back to whats important here and thats

-Cardinals Rule-:D
I'm a huge Feyenoord-supporter, was born close to the stadium, and started attending games with my dad when i was a very little boy. But believe me mate, the times when i could get fired up over a Feyenoord-bashing post on a message board are long, long behind me. :D

As for the jealousy part, yes i wish we would win some more. On the other hand, when you win every year, the joy of the victory gets less and less, until there's no real celebration anymore. When we win something (think UEFAcup 2002), it's almost a state of euphoria and a fantastic feeling that lasts longer than the PSV supporters' feeling of all PSV's championships combined. I know i'm exaggerating a little, but you get my point.

And yes, -Cardinals Rule-.
 

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(Anyone who thinks contrary needs remedial math!)

:biglaugh:

If cold hard facts and remedial math is being apologetic, then I you can call me apologetic all you want.

Rod Hood in 2008
734 snaps played
7 Penalties
39 Tackles
59.3 complettion percentage allowed
13.4 yards per catch allowed
8 TD's allowed
109.3 Passer rating allowed

Bryant McFadden in 2009
983 snaps played
3 penalties
67 Tackles
57.8 complettion percentage allowed
12.5 yards per catch allowed
2 TD's allowed
86.5 Passer rating allowed

Not only did McFadden give up 6 fewer TD's the Hood did but he did it while playing almost 250 more snaps then Hood did, thats an equal to playing 4 more games then Hood.

Anyone who doesnt look at those numbers and think it was an upgrade only remembers two horrible playoff games(for the whole D), just trying to be argumentive, didnt watch any games but the playoffs, or just plain old has their heads in the sand.
 

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2 TD's allowed

Interesting stat: Profootball-reference shows the Cards allowed 22 passing TDs during the regular season.

11 of those 22 were to RBs or TEs. I wonder how that compares to other teams defenses?

Another interesting note: In the Arizona-Chicago game Tight Ends accounted for 5 TD catches. Olsen had 3 for the Bears and Patrick and Becht had one each for the Cards.
 

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Interesting stat: Profootball-reference shows the Cards allowed 22 passing TDs during the regular season.

11 of those 22 were to RBs or TEs. I wonder how that compares to other teams defenses?

That is interesting, half of the TD's allowed were from non-wide recievers. Hmmmm.

Also the 22 TD's allowed is also a huge upgrade from the year prior.
 

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That is interesting, half of the TD's allowed were from non-wide recievers. Hmmmm.

Also the 22 TD's allowed is also a huge upgrade from the year prior.

In addition 5 of those 11 TD passes were 10 yards or longer. 10,20,25,31 and 33 yards.
 

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All I have to do is mention one stat and its end of story - Hood gave up 8 TD's, McFadden gave up 2 TD's.

Since you seem so fixated on stats, here's some stats that say that McFadden went from being one of the best corners in 2008, to one of the worst in 2009.

http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2008&pos=CB&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1

McFadden 2008 - Ranked #6 overall

http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=CB&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1

McFadden 2009 - Ranked # 89 overall, a full 3 slots ahead of Hood in 2008.


You're obviously right though, it's just silly myopic fans who didn't see McFadden as a major upgrade...:rolleyes:
 

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