5 things that make Charlie Whitehurst an intriguing option at QB

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1. A back up to one of the smartest and hard working quarterbacks in the NFL and a guy known to be a very good teammate in Philip Rivers.

2. Worked with a head coach universally considered one of the best if not the best quarterback friendly coach in the NFL (Norv Turner)

3. Ideal measurables-Size, arm strength

4. Should have a chip on his shoulder-Was considered a future franchise caliber quarterback as an underclassman at Clemson but had a less than stellar senior season that dropped his draft stock.

5. Ken Whisenhunt obviously sees something in this guy. This should be #1 on the list.
 
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No NFL experience.

He has size, strength, and some quality coaching. He has thrown

0 passes in the NFL. 2 rushes for 13 yards and 1 TD. We can't give too much

for him, if we do we are idiots. But...I am willing to take a chance as I don't

trust Lienart's skills. 3rd or 4th round pick, maybe?



Sorry, can't post full stats untill I get 20 posts. Soon!!

Charlie Whitehurst
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  • Height: 6-4
    Weight: 220 Born: Aug 6, 1982 - Duluth, GA College: Clemson Draft: 2006 - 3rd round (17th pick) by the San Diego Chargers
 

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There are some things about him that are intriguing but there is not enough film on him in recent years that shows he is worth a 3rd round pick. If we could get him for a conditional pick NEXT season (anywhere from a 5th to 3rd) it'd probably be smart.
 

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Holian ----- I want to jump right in there with you on Whitehurst, (especially the part about Whiz seeing something in this guy). So far though, the only QB that Whiz has brought us is BSP, and I find that just a little disconcerting. Points 1 through 4 are valid ones though, and with Carr, Delhoume, and Thigpen not available, I would probably go after Whitehurst over the remainders too.
 

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Charlie Whitehurst QB 6'5 223 Clemson

Whitehurst burst on to the college football scene early in his career with the Tigers. As a freshman in 2002, he threw for 1,554 yards, while completing 57.5% of his passes to go with 10 touchdowns to six picks. He turned that success into a monster sophomore season. On the year he threw for a career high 3,561 yards, 21 touchdowns to just 13 interceptions, while completing just under 62% of his passes. Whitehurst took two steps back as a junior, just having a terrible season across the board. He threw for just 2,067 yards, completed a career low 50.7% of his passes, and threw jus seven touchdowns to 17 interceptions. He redeemed himself a bit as a senior, throwing for 2,474 yards and completed a career high 67.2% of his passes, but had only 11 TD's to 10 picks.
Charlie Whitehurst has all the physical talent to play quarterback in the NFL. He has ideal size for the position, has a very good arm, and is a better athlete than he is given credit for. He is also tough and can get his troops to rally around him. Whitehurst also started for three plus seasons in college, so he has a lot of game experience.
Talent and experience is not the problem, it is consistency. Whitehurst has just been to up and down throughout his career. Outside of his sophomore year, he never had any level of consistency to his game, and he underachieved during his time at Clemson. He also forces too many passes trying to make plays, and needs to be more disciplined on the field. Whitehurst is an intriguing developmental prospect. He has the talent and has a ton of experience, but needs some coaching to refine his game. If someone is willing to take the time to teach him, they may have a second day steal on their hands. If Whitehurst shows the consistency and discipline on the field, he can be a starting quarterback in the NFL.
 

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Whitehurst is a tall, yet mobile passer with good bloodlines. His father, David, was a quarterback for the Green Bay Packers. Charlie Whitehurst was a four-year starter at Clemson who bounced back in 2005 from a 2004 season that saw the entire Tigers offense struggle behind a porous offensive line. He owns forty-one school records and threw for more yardage by the end of his sophomore year (5,325) than any other passer in Atlantic Coast Conference history with the exception of North Carolina State's Philip Rivers (5,640 yards, 2000-01).
Whitehurst was a highly-recruited quarterback coming out of Chattahoochee High School. He was rated the 35th-best quarterback in the nation by Rivals100.com and the 35th-best prospect in Georgia by Super Prep. Whitehurst passed for 888 yards and eight touchdowns in only six games as a senior, missing close to half of the season due to a separated shoulder and broken thumb.
He still earned All-Southeast Region honors from Tom Lemming's Prep Football Report, was a member of the North Fulton Super 11 by Atlanta Journal and an Atlanta Touchdown Club Back-of-the-Week pick his senior year. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution selected him to Georgia's top 50 and the Southern top 100. As a junior, Whitehurst passed for 1,708 yards and 13 touchdowns. He was also a four-year letterman and starter in baseball as an outfielder and first baseman.
After redshirting as a freshman at Clemson in 2001, he took over the starting quarterback duties from Willie Simmons the second half of the 2002 campaign. Whitehurst went on to complete 123 of 214 passes (57.5 percent) for 1,554 yards, ten touchdowns and six interceptions while appearing in nine contests that year. He ranked second in the Atlantic Coast Conference with a 145.0 passer efficiency rating.
The 2003 season was Whitehurst's coming out party. He set school single-season records for most pass attempts (465), pass completions (288), passing efficiency (min. 300 attempts; 135.6), passing yards (3,561), most 200-yard passing games (11), most 300-yard passing games (5), most touchdown passes (21) and total offensive plays (557).
As memorable as the 2003 season was, the 2004 campaign was just as forgettable. Whitehurst would manage only seven touchdown passes while being intercepted 17 times. He hit on 177 of 349 passes (50.7 percent) for 2,067 yards and rushed for 43 yards and a score on 80 carries. In addition to his 17 interceptions, he was sacked 25 times and fumbled the ball a team-high ten times.
With the addition of offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach Rob Spence, Whitehurst finally found a mentor before the 2005 season. He drastically improved his accuracy, but was still prone to throwing the costly interception or getting sacked. Whitehurst completed 67.4 percent of his passes (229 of 340) for 2,483 yards and eleven touchdowns. However, he was sacked 20 times for losses of 150 yards, threw ten interceptions and fumbled five times. Whitehurst did stretch the field more often, as 36 of his pass completions were for 20 yards or longer. In 44 games with the Tigers, Whitehurst completed 817 of 1,368 passes (59.7 percent) for 9,665 yards, 49 touchdowns and 46 interceptions. He set forty-one school records, including career marks for most pass attempts, pass completions, passing yards, 200-yard passing games (24) and 300-yard passing games (8). He also scored ten times while netting 98 yards on 266 carries. Whitehurst started a record 37 consecutive games for the Tigers between 2002 and 2005, but the streak ended when he did not play against Duke due to a sore shoulder. Whitehurst had surgery on Dec. 1, 2005 to correct the problem, returning to the field for his final game vs. Colorado in the Champs Sports Bowl.


Analysis
Positives: Has a tall, thick frame with room for additional growth … Good competitor who is a quiet leader, but has total control of the huddle … Steps up in the pocket to absorb the hit and is not the type who will run at the first sign of pressure … Keeps his focus on the field … Shows decent quickness in his release and adequate arm strength to make all of the throws … Shows good touch and accuracy on underneath routes … Has enough lateral agility to slide out of the pocket and throw the short ball on the move … Throws off his back foot some without a loss of force, but when he steps off his front foot, he can generate much better ball speed … Can throw from either his left or right hash with equal results … Knows how to vary the speed on his tosses in the short area, showing decent accuracy in this range … On the long ball, he knows how to give the receiver a chance to compete, putting good zip on the ball to loft it over his target's shoulders … Even when throwing from the shotgun, he shows decent fluidity in his pass drop and set up … Has a snappy overhead delivery and a fluid follow-through rather than a windmill type that most tall passers display … Good at timing his passes over the middle … Shows the body control and balance to keep the play alive while waiting for his targets to get open … Will not hesitate to stiff-arm and drive with his legs to get extra yardage when forced to run.
Negatives: Makes poor decisions with the ball, as he eyes his primary target too long and then tries to thread the needle and force passes, even when his receiver is covered … Needs to do a better of locating his secondary receivers … Has good arm strength, but his long balls tend to float and more often than not on tape, the receiver had to struggle to run underneath or work back for the pass (does not get the ball to the outside shoulder of his target) … Can move around in the pocket, but will not win any foot races when he has to tuck the ball and run with it … Better throwing out and crossing patterns, as his passes seem to lose touch when going deep … Has a tall, long-limbed frame, but needs to dedicate more hours in the weight room to add bulk and muscle tone … Has good arm strength, but sometimes fails to generate power and snap with his release … Has good overhead mechanics, but when he carries the ball low, it greatly slows down his delivery … Even when he tried to fire the ball into the numbers, he sprayed the ball going for the home run play (seems to have corrected a slight flick in his deep throws during 2005 season and was airing it out with more effectiveness) … Ball security is a big issue, as he runs with the ball too exposed, resulting in 24 fumbles over the last three years … Further medical evaluation might be needed on his surgically-repaired right shoulder (operated on Dec. 1, 2005).
Whitehurst has very good size and mobility for his position. He has above average athleticism, good feet, agility and decent quickness to go along with good production prior to 2004. He has been highly productive prior to his junior year, but he struggled throwing the deep ball in 2004 and made numerous questionable decisions that resulted in a career-high 17 interceptions. He improved somewhat in 2005, as he reduced his interceptions to ten, but he managed only eleven touchdown passes in his final season.
Whitehurst redefined his mechanics during the 2005 offseason, showing a quicker release, especially on short to intermediate throws, improving his accuracy in the process (completed 67.4 percent of his attempts). He keeps the ball up and stays on top. Whitehurst has good arm strength and throws a nice ball with touch on the intermediate routes. With a new offensive coordinator in place for 2005 in Rob Spence, Whitehurst demonstrated the release and delivery he showed in the past. He stands tall in the pocket and does a very nice job of putting zip on the ball when throwing the crossing patterns.
In 2005, it was hoped that Whitehurst would wait for defenders to clear and show more patience rather than hurry his throws like he did in the past, but ten interceptions and five fumbles did prove costly. He has the agility to move around in the pocket and shows the ability to run when the pocket collapses. However, he lacks the timed speed to win many foot races. Whitehurst tends to throw off his back foot too much and needs to revert to planting and driving off his front foot more to get better velocity behind his attempts.
Whitehurst needs to display better ball security than he did the last two years, when he fumbled nine times in 2004 and had five more as a senior. He does try to force the ball some when protection breaks down, but displays good leadership ability and toughness. He will stand in vs. the blitz and does take a lot of hits. Whitehurst has the arm strength to make all the throws (posts, flats, outs and on the move) and his overall accuracy is good, especially when going over the middle. Whitehurst is a heady passer, but needs to make better progression reads. He will get a little too brave at times, throwing the ball into traffic. However, he has the live arm to take that risk if he can maintain velocity behind his tosses. Because of the poor protection from his offensive linemen, Whitehurst barely had the time to set his feet before feeling the pressure from the pass rush in 2004. While mobile, he does not have the escapability once the pocket collapses, but showed in 2005 fall camp that he is improving his ability to reload and deliver the ball in the face of pressure. He will still commit to a route and throw blindly. Whitehurst then tries to roll out and throw on the move, but it is obvious that he is better suited for being a pocket passer. He has that lively arm, toughness and intelligence to be a good competitor, and benefited from the senior year with the team's new offensive staff. His late season shoulder injury is a concern and further medical evaluation in the coming months will determine if he is a mid-round selection or will be on the board during the later stages of the 2006 NFL Draft.


Career NotesThe NCAA Division 1-A's leading active quarterback in passing yardage prior to the 2005 season (7,142 yards), Whitehurst set a school career-record as he finished his time at Clemson with 9,665 yards, surpassing the old mark of 6,037 yards by Woodrow Dantzler (1998-2001) and ranking third in Atlantic Coast Conference annals behind Philip Rivers of North Carolina State (13,484 yards, 2000-03) and Chris Weinke of Florida State (9,839 yards, 1997-2000) … His total offense yardage of 9,763 ranks third in ACC history behind Rivers (13,582) and Joe Hamilton of Georgia Tech (10,640 yards, 1996-99) … Set Clemson all-time records with 817 completions in 1,368 pass attemps, topping the previous marks of 460 completions by Dantzler and 805 attempts by Nealon Greene (1994-97) … Those totals rank third and fourth respectively in ACC history … His 59.7 pass completion percentage topped Dantzler's previous school record (57.8 percent) … Whitehurst's 49 touchdown broke Dantzler's old school all-time mark of 41 … Also holds the Tigers' all-time records for most 200-yard passing games (24), 300-yard passing games (8), touchdown passes per game (1.11), victories against Top-10 competition as a starting quarterback (7) and overtime victories as a starting quarterback (3) … His eight 300-yard passing games and twelve 300-yard total offense games, are the most of any active ACC quarterback … Started 37 consecutive games before missing the 2005 Duke contest, setting the school record for quarterbacks (previous record-holder was Tommy Kendrick, 34 from 1969-71) … His 40 total starts tied Greene (1994-97) and Rodney Williams (1985-88) as the only other Tiger quarterbacks to accomplish that feat … Had eight fourth-quarter comeback victories during his career … His pass completion percentage of 67.4 in 2004 broke the old school single-season record of 63.1 percent by Brandon Streeter in 1999.
 

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Why would we want a guy like Whitehurst when we can spend a third on can't miss prospects like Tim Tebow, John Skelton, or Jevan Snead????

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Since he came out in 2006 I wonder if he was also being eyed by the Cards that year.
 

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I wonder if Wiz followed Whitehurst thru college or worked with him in some of the college All-Star games? I just find it hard to believe he would be potentially giving up a 3rd rounder for guy that never has thrown a regular season pass & hasn't been stellar in preseason. I'm quite sure he has discussions with scouts or team personel in SD from the past, but you would think somehow, someway he knows something about this kid first hand. If he hasn't, the would be a colossal mistake, because 3rd rd picks are generally counted on as be a starter at some point in their careers. If he is starting material I'm in, but if viewed as simply a backup, no thanks!!! Physical skills & producing are 2 differant things. Maybe Whitehurst is Chris Simms, maybe he is Matt Schaub.

Anyone know of a potential connection from the past between Wiz & Whitehurst?
 
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I wonder if Wiz followed Whitehurst thru college or worked with him in some of the college All-Star games? I just find it hard to believe he would be potentially giving up a 3rd rounder for guy that never has thrown a regular season pass & hasn't been stellar in preseason. I'm quite sure he has discussions with scouts or team personel in SD from the past, but you would think somehow, someway he knows something about this kid first hand. If he hasn't, the would be a colossal mistake, because 3rd rd picks are generally counted on as be a starter at some point in their careers. If he is starting material I'm in, but if viewed as simply a backup, no thanks!!! Physical skills & producing are 2 differant things. Maybe Whitehurst is Chris Simms, maybe he is Matt Schaub.

Anyone know of a potential connection from the past between Wiz & Whitehurst?

I think you may be on to something. Whitehurst is from Georgia as is Whisenhunt. Whitehurst's father played in the NFL, not sure if at the same time as Ken Whisenhunt but I think is about the same age as Whiz. Hate to think that Whisenhunt is eyeballing this guy because he knows his father, but stranger things have caused coaches to go after players. I'm just thinking that Whisenhunt had his eye of Whitehurst when he was working with the Steelers and Whitehurst was coming out of college. Something has the Cards intruiged and it can't just be what they saw in preseason. Maybe Whisenhunt/Graves know someone who works in the Chargers organization that is giving a huge endorsement to Whitehurst.
 

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I think you may be on to something. Whitehurst is from Georgia as is Whisenhunt. Whitehurst's father played in the NFL, not sure if at the same time as Ken Whisenhunt but I think is about the same age as Whiz. Hate to think that Whisenhunt is eyeballing this guy because he knows his father, but stranger things have caused coaches to go after players. I'm just thinking that Whisenhunt had his eye of Whitehurst when he was working with the Steelers and Whitehurst was coming out of college. Something has the Cards intruiged and it can't just be what they saw in preseason. Maybe Whisenhunt/Graves know someone who works in the Chargers organization that is giving a huge endorsement to Whitehurst.

It may also be because their names are so similar.:D
 

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I think you may be on to something. Whitehurst is from Georgia as is Whisenhunt. Whitehurst's father played in the NFL, not sure if at the same time as Ken Whisenhunt but I think is about the same age as Whiz. Hate to think that Whisenhunt is eyeballing this guy because he knows his father, but stranger things have caused coaches to go after players. I'm just thinking that Whisenhunt had his eye of Whitehurst when he was working with the Steelers and Whitehurst was coming out of college. Something has the Cards intruiged and it can't just be what they saw in preseason. Maybe Whisenhunt/Graves know someone who works in the Chargers organization that is giving a huge endorsement to Whitehurst.

I would hope it's someone outside of SD's camp or is a former employee because they could give you bad imfo to get a pick
 

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:shrug: I'd rather have Skelton in the 4th than spend a 3rd on Whitehurst.
i don't get that. Let's say by some quirk in the rules that Whitehurst was again draft eligible this year. The only QB that would likely be picked in front of him would be Bradford,maybe Clausen, but doubtful. But you'd rather have a 6th round talent,in a bad QB draft, over him. That just doesn't make sense to me. Whitehurst is so much farther along than Skelton it's not funny.
 

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i don't get that. Let's say by some quirk in the rules that Whitehurst was again draft eligible this year. The only QB that would likely be picked in front of him would be Bradford,maybe Clausen, but doubtful. But you'd rather have a 6th round talent,in a bad QB draft, over him. That just doesn't make sense to me. Whitehurst is so much farther along than Skelton it's not funny.

Whitehurst may be farther along, but that doesn't mean he will be a better NFL QB 2-3 years down the road. I haven't seen enough of Whitehurst outside of a few ESPN games to say he will/wont be a good starter, but I haven't seen Skelton other than the Senior Bowl.

I'm not on either side of the fence on either player but for any of us fans to think one or the other QB will be the best choice 2 years down the road is way over the top. I guess our faith resides in the HC, though I dont like given up a #3 when this team needs talent defensively
 
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i don't get that. Let's say by some quirk in the rules that Whitehurst was again draft eligible this year. The only QB that would likely be picked in front of him would be Bradford,maybe Clausen, but doubtful. But you'd rather have a 6th round talent,in a bad QB draft, over him. That just doesn't make sense to me. Whitehurst is so much farther along than Skelton it's not funny.

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How you can say you would rather have some guy out of Fordham who may not have been ready for the Big Ten, let alone the NFL, over a guy with better bloodlines, coaching, NFL experience, and who has learned behind one of the best QB's of the past 5 years is beyond me.

Not only that but the closest thing we have ever known to football god in Arizona has decided this guy is worth a third and you still think a 4th on Skelton is the right move???

At this point Stout is just defending this point because he has dug his heels in the mud and doesn't want to back down now IMHO.

I don't know if Whitehurst will ever amount to anything but at this point he's a better gamble then Skelton, Tebow, McCoy, and even arguably Claussen. 4 years learning the NFL and learning from Rivers and Turner is nothing to blatently disregard.

When you have 2 3rd round picks and you feel strongly about a player like Wiz does (and the new brass in Seattle that happens to be very smart as well) ESPECIALLY AT QUARTERBACK you give up one of those 3rd rounder ten times out of ten.

It should tell you something that Wiz is okay with giving up a third for Whitehurst when he could have had a Anderson, Carr, or Bulger for nothing more then a contract.

Wiz didn't get dumb overnight.
 

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How you can say you would rather have some guy out of Fordham who may not have been ready for the Big Ten, let alone the NFL, over a guy with better bloodlines, coaching, NFL experience, and who has learned behind one of the best QB's of the past 5 years is beyond me.

Not only that but the closest thing we have ever known to football god in Arizona has decided this guy is worth a third and you still think a 4th on Skelton is the right move???

At this point Stout is just defending this point because he has dug his heels in the mud and doesn't want to back down now IMHO.

I don't know if Whitehurst will ever amount to anything but at this point he's a better gamble then Skelton, Tebow, McCoy, and even arguably Claussen. 4 years learning the NFL and learning from Rivers and Turner is nothing to blatently disregard.

When you have 2 3rd round picks and you feel strongly about a player like Wiz does (and the new brass in Seattle that happens to be very smart as well) ESPECIALLY AT QUARTERBACK you give up one of those 3rd rounder ten times out of ten.

It should tell you something that Wiz is okay with giving up a third for Whitehurst when he could have had a Anderson, Carr, or Bulger for nothing more then a contract.

Wiz didn't get dumb overnight.

Riiiiiiiiiight, I don't agree with you, so I'm just being stubborn. Someone thinks a little too much of themselves on here, and buddy, you aren't that smart. I could just as easily say that you're just excited because we're interested. I think the Whitehurst mania around here is insanely overblown because of the news we're interested, and I've mentioned that before. I won't accuse you of it personally because I won't presume to do so.

I'm so very, very sorry that I dare to disagree about this kid Whitehurst. Good God, how dare someone have a different opinion! How dare someone not like a prospect coming out of college, a prospect with huge question marks, who has done nothing since then. How dare I?!?!?

Oh, that's right, because I think I'm right. Because I have an opinion. In your far-fetched mind, it's just because I want to be stubborn on the topic. How about the fact that I didn't want the kid in the draft, and don't want him now. How about I don't want us to sign him as a regular FA even without giving up compensation. How about I don't owe you an explanation for my opinion, so stow it. How about 'In Your Honest Opinion' you were grossly wrong. Good enough for you? Wait, it doesn't have to be. Move along now, and don't try to speak to why I post what I do.

'Bye now.
 

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i don't get that. Let's say by some quirk in the rules that Whitehurst was again draft eligible this year. The only QB that would likely be picked in front of him would be Bradford,maybe Clausen, but doubtful. But you'd rather have a 6th round talent,in a bad QB draft, over him. That just doesn't make sense to me. Whitehurst is so much farther along than Skelton it's not funny.

How about, were he draft eligible, I wouldn't want to waste a 7th on the guy. I didn't like him coming out of college, so why would I like him now? You think he's a good QB prospect; I don't. That's cool. You can have your opinion. Somehow, I can't have mine. I don't care if you don't 'get it'. You don't have to. It's cool.
 

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How about, were he draft eligible, I wouldn't want to waste a 7th on the guy. I didn't like him coming out of college, so why would I like him now? You think he's a good QB prospect; I don't. That's cool. You can have your opinion. Somehow, I can't have mine. I don't care if you don't 'get it'. You don't have to. It's cool.

You would really rather have this guy Skelton for a 4th than Whitehurst for a 7th?
 

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How about, were he draft eligible, I wouldn't want to waste a 7th on the guy. I didn't like him coming out of college, so why would I like him now? You think he's a good QB prospect; I don't. That's cool. You can have your opinion. Somehow, I can't have mine. I don't care if you don't 'get it'. You don't have to. It's cool.
I never said you were wrong or can't have an opinion. Just because I don't get it doesn't make it right. My thinking is that there's a guy who ,by most accounts, is close to NFL playing time ready versus a huge question mark from a Div 1-AA school that is a developmental type QB. That doesn't mean either will turn out to be any good or bad. You don't like Whitehurst,I do, there's no problem with that. I like Leinart the best out of the bunch and there's people on here already writing him off. I don't get that either :).
 
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