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This year's winners, losers of free agency

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By Marc Stein
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Another two weeks have passed. Nearly every marquee free agent is off the market. A couple of big trades popped, too.

It's time, thusly, to progress from progress reports to more of a summer scorecard.

Training camp is still two months away, and the roster tweaks will continue, but here's where we are so far with free agency:

The Winners

The Lakers set the curve for free agency with the signings of Gary Payton, left, and Karl Malone (who'll wear No. 11, not No. 32).
Los Angeles Lakers
Upon reflection, they can't claim to have aced the offseason, given the Kobe Bryant uncertainty that looms over the team, the city and the whole league. They had barely 24 hours, from the Gary Payton/Karl Malone press conference to Kobe's "I'm innocent" press conference, to worry about ego overload being the biggest problem this season. Yet for the purposes of this basketball discussion, we'll throw out all the doomsday scenarios and assume Bryant and his teammates, new and old, can function normally, even with that sizable legal cloud floating overhead. If you allow for that assumption, L.A. is still paying only $6.4 million to have Payton and Malone in its lineup for 2003-04. That's an even bigger coup than what the Colorado Avalanche pulled, after Paul Kariya and Teemu Selanne started this heretofore unseen practice of winter superstars taking massive pay cuts for a one-season hunt for glory. Want more positivity amid the gloom? Narrow-minded as it might seem to focus on the hoop implications of what's happening to No. 8, there is also the belief in Lakerland -- again assuming that Bryant will eventually extricate himself from his legal troubles -- that Kobe's personal turmoil will actually ease locker-room tensions. The theory supposes that Bryant wouldn't dare be a problem teammate after what his other problems have done to his image.

San Antonio Spurs
True dat: San Antonio didn't sign Jason Kidd or Alonzo Mourning or even P.J. Brown. True dat II: San Antonio has lost David Robinson and Speedy Claxton from its championship team and won't be bringing back Stephen Jackson, either. So why are the Spurs quietly satisfied? Truth is, their summer wasn't nearly as bleak as it reads. The Spurs knew they couldn't come back with the same team, in a tougher West, and they've managed to add four quality players without affecting next summer's financial options: Rasho Nesterovic, Robert Horry, Hedo Turkoglu and Ron Mercer. It's also fairly clear that the Spurs' new pieces will be easier to blend in quickly than the Lakers' newbies, which is why San Antonio is a virtual lock to start the season in the No. 1 slot in those larger-than-life ESPN.com NBA Power Rankings.

The Maloof Bros.
Joe and Gavin Maloof went into the summer vowing to cut payroll. They wound up agreeing to pay Brad Miller some $26 million more than Nesterovic got and a tidy $52 million more than Michael Olowokandi received. Apparently they don't subscribe to the contention that the Kings' window for title contention is narrowing.

Glen Taylor
Better known for giving Kevin Garnett the contract that begat the only work stoppage in NBA history, or his part in the under-the-table Joe Smith scandal, Taylor just took a Maloofian step in an attempt to keep Garnett in Minneapolis and give the West a full-fledged Fab Five. Instead of hanging onto Terrell Brandon's valuable contract and the cap relief it provides, Taylor sanctioned the acquisition of Latrell Sprewell. That'll take the Wolves' payroll into the $70 million range after they fill out the rest of the roster.


Gilbert Arenas has 65 million reasons to weather the snow in D.C.
Washington Wizards
So maybe they overpaid for Gilbert Arenas. Then again, bad teams with cap room (as we'll cover later) generally can't give their money away. Kudos to the Wiz for getting Arenas' signature after we heard all year that he'd never sign for a team on the snowy side of the country. Arenas, Jerry Stackhouse, Kwame Brown, Larry Hughes -- it's a base of talent to work with, with trades sure to follow if Arenas, Stack and Hughes all prove too similar.

Orlando Magic
Sorry. Not buying the notion that Juwan Howard and Drew Gooden can't play together. Orlando is still in the East. Most nights, one of them can play some center.

Miami Heat
Doubly sorry. Even if the Heat decides to withhold an offer sheet to Lamar Odom and sits on its cap room for now, the club is immeasurably better off than it was before Anthony Carter's $4.1 million clerical error. The Heat has roughly $12 million in cap space instead of $7-ish million. As long as it's not burned on mediocre talent, that's a good thing.

New Orleans Hornets
Since our last roundup, when a re-signed P.J. was added to the re-signed Baron Davis and Jamal Mashburn, the Hornets have signed Darrell Armstrong and Sean Rooks. Neither one is a major score, but again we ask glumly: Do we have to stop dissing George Shinn?

Kevin Ollie
After playing for nine teams in six seasons, one of our faves gets a five-year, $15 million deal from Cleveland. That's more guaranteed money than Payton and Malone got from the Lakers. Combined. Of course, there's a reason for the backup point guard's windfall. "If you were looking for a good character guy to put around LeBron (James), there isn't a better choice than Kevin Ollie," one former employer said.

Robert Horry
Big Shot Rob gets famously offended whenever his game-winning playoff triples are branded "lucky," but even Horry concedes that luck "fell on me this time" in the form of two-year, $9.45 million contract from the Spurs. There is little chance San Antonio will invoke the team option for Year 2 of that contract, but Horry will still earn $4.5 million next season from the Spurs. After shooting 0-for-18 on 3-pointers against the Spurs in the '03 playoffs.

Alonzo Mourning
Zo's contract is twice as long as Horry's, at more than double the money, with no one able to calculate how much his body will allow him to play. In a summer of umpteen surprises, the story about Mourning morphing into a he-goes-where-I-go package deal with J-Kidd is one of the biggies.

New Jersey Nets
Nothing has changed since the first progress report. Byron Scott is still no closer to a contract extension, Kenyon Martin still wants max money when he becomes eligible for a contract extension Aug. 1 and still none of that can dampen the Nets' enthusiasm because they hung onto Kidd.

To Be Determined
Brad Miller
As undeniably great as it is to get zillions more than the other centers on the open market, after going undrafted in 1998, now Miller has to live up to the price tag. That might not be so easy in the land of the giants out West. Nor will it be so simple replacing two of the most popular Kings, Turkoglu and Scot Pollard. The pressure is on Miller and Geoff Petrie here.

Indiana Pacers
Pacer People everywhere are furious that the likes of Jonathan Bender and Jeff Foster received contract extensions in October, only for Indy management to decide months later that it couldn't afford to pay Miller -- a center from Indiana and a reigning East All-Star. Sounds like a rare strike against Pacers president Donnie Walsh, but, again, Miller will have to prove worthy of those big dollars. The expectation here, incidentally, is that Pollard will surprise disappointed Pacers fans, because he'll be a legit center in the East with steady playing time, feeding off the attention Jermaine O'Neal draws.


Kevin McHale had his best offseason as Wolves GM.
Kevin McHale
After the interminable infatuation with Joe Smith ... and the ironic failure of letting future Sixth Man extraordinaire Bobby Jackson go ... and the loss of Chauncey Billups ... after all that you could say McHale needed a big score to spruce up his GM resume. The moves he made this summer -- trading for Sprewell and Sam Cassell and signing Olowokandi to replace Nesterovic -- were McHale's boldest strokes yet. "It'll be an interesting year," McHale said Friday. It'll be a redemption year if Flip Saunders can mold all the boldness into a unit.

Chicago Bulls
If Scottie Pippen can be a Zen-like influence in Portland, he figures to have a positive impact on the Baby Bulls. He's injury-prone, sure, and prone to lashing out when his team is losing, but Pippen brings undeniable playoff mojo back to Chicago -- in his 16 seasons, Pip has been to the postseason 16 times. Tyson Chandler and Eddy Curry, both finally making tangible progress and giving Pip's new/old team some of the East's most promising size, can stand to learn the good stuff he can teach. Nevertheless, it's tough to be too upbeat about the Bulls these days, no matter whom they sign. Scottie's return doesn't change the fact that a) the battle for playoff spots at the bottom of the East will be competitive no matter how much stronger the West is, and b) Jay Williams' motorcycle crash, which threatens Williams' ability to ever play again, is the story of Chicago's offseason.

Philadelphia 76ers
Allen Iverson will respect Glenn Robinson more than Keith Van Horn or Toni Kukoc or Larry Hughes -- the last three guys to try to be Philly's No. 2 scorer. That's not the issue. The issues are size and experience. Philly could be undersized at almost every position, even with Marc Jackson coming in to play center, and Randy Ayers is a rookie head coach at this level, with a challenging roster to manage.

Los Angeles Clippers
The Clippers could have paid Elton Brand more than $105 million over seven seasons, so matching Miami's six-year, $82 million offer to Brand is a bargain by comparison, even for owner Donald T. Sterling, a lifelong non-spender. That's one reason why reaction to the Brand signing, which figured to be trumpeted as a momentous occasion in the annals of Clipperdom, has been so muted. Another reason: Sterling's profits for last season have been estimated as high as $40-plus million. So even after L.A. paid more than it usually does for a coach -- $10 million over four seasons to Mike Dunleavy -- this is clearly a time you expect the Clippers to spend a little more, even allowing for the Sterling factor. It'll be a major disappointment if Odom and Corey Maggette aren't retained like Brand. If only one of those two small forwards comes back, it will be remembered as yet another sad summer in spite of the Brand/Dunleavy exacta.
 
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The Losers
Western Conference
The West is so tough now that Dallas will be widely picked fifth in preseason projections, after its first 60-win season and a trip to the conference finals. Phoenix will be a year more mature and Houston has made two significant additions (Jeff Van Gundy and Eric Piatkowski) and neither team has moved up the ladder much, largely because the Spurs, Lakers, Kings and Wolves have all strengthened themselves. Kidd might have said it best when, explaining his decision to stay with the Nets, he noted that "you only have to play one of them in the Finals."

Eastern Conference
New Jersey and Detroit were the East's two strongest teams and they're the only teams that have made certain impact additions. With the biggest names in last week's two big trades going West, Sprewell and Brad Miller, let's just say it's a good thing that the East landed two of the first three picks in the draft.


Cap Room Gang
Not to be confused with "The Capital Gang," the teams that have the most salary-cap space have again struggled mightily to take advantage of it. As seen with Chicago in the summer of 2000, when Jerry Krause couldn't give the Bulls' millions away, free agents are in no rush to sign with rebuilding teams like Utah, Denver and Miami. The only salvation: Those teams seem to realize that using the cap space to facilitate trades is the most likely way for the downtrodden to add talent. None of them appears to be in any rush to make signings just because they have money now and can wait, as seen with Krause settling for Mercer and Eddie Robinson with the Bulls. Locals in Denver are naturally miffed by the strategy, thinking their team would be making a big offseason splash, but management elected to save its cap room for trades or next summer's marketplace rather than overpay Arenas, Olowokandi or Miller. Depending on whom they eventually score, it's a mode that could lift the Nuggets out of this category, and Miami seems to be taking a similar approach. The outlook, though, is not quite as bright in Utah, which tendered an offer sheet to Brand ... only for Brand to sign Miami's. The Jazz also tried to sign University of Utah-ex Andre Miller to an offer sheet, only for Miller to sign with Denver. If the Clips match on Maggette, Utah will have missed out completely, in the face of stronger local pressure than the Nuggets or Heat, thanks to Malone's move to L.A. and John Stockton's retirement. Worse yet, without Maggette, Utah would have to spend $10-plus million just to get to the minimum amount for next season that teams are required to spend. In that scenario, the Jazz would be forced to acquire roughly $10 million worth of expiring contracts just to preserve future flexibility.

Golden State Warriors
Doesn't matter that the rules conspired against them when it came to keeping Arenas. In their long-suffering fans' eyes, the Warriors have fumbled again. And without Arenas and Earl Boykins, in the mighty West, the league's longest playoff drought is bound to be stretched to a 10th season.

New York Knicks
The Knicks were getting worse defensively even with Sprewell in the lineup ... and Van Horn gives them some much-needed size on the front line (albeit at small forward) ... and you can't convince me that New York is a tougher place to play than unforgiving Philadelphia. So there. There are three more reasons why the addition of Van Horn makes some sense for the Knicks. I really think he'll fare better than expected. The real negatives: New York's whole season still hinges on Antonio McDyess' return to health, and the Knicks weren't quick enough with Olowokandi when he blipped onto the market at a starting price of $4.9 million.

Dallas Mavericks
It figured that someone in the NBA elite would be shut out in free agency. Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak admitted recently that he feared it would be the Lakers. Instead, it's Dallas, who had Mourning as their clear-cut No. 1 target and the (long shot) pursuit of a Brad Miller sign-and-trade as No. 2. With several more free agents they liked getting good money elsewhere (Pippen, Horry, even Elden Campbell), the Mavericks are now faced with concocting a trade to get the center they desperately seek. Theo Ratliff? Erick Dampier? Marcus Camby? Chasing a bad contract or a center with warts are the Mavericks' only options now, as they endeavor to find the size that will allow Raef LaFrentz to play power forward instead of center. Dallas wants the option of sliding LaFrentz to the four, which gives Dirk Nowitzki and Michael Finley a chance to be big at small forward and shooting guard, respectively. There will be no LaFrentz-for-Kurt Thomas trade, because the Mavericks aren't about to get smaller. Not with $120 million already invested in three big men who don't offer much rebounding, interior defense or inside scoring: LaFrentz, Shawn Bradley and Evan Eschmeyer.

David Stern
After that Spurs-Nets ratings nightmare, it was setting up so nicely for the commish, even without Michael Jordan as an owner. Lakers, replenished. Kings, fortified. Three good teams in Texas, headlined by the reloaded champs from San Antonio and with Jeff Van Gundy signing on to coach Yao and Stevie Franchise. LeBron, Darko Milicic and Carmelo Anthony as a prized rookie trio. Scottie back with the Bulls. Danny Ainge back with Boston. Larry Bird back in Indy. There should be far more to watch, and more for the league market, than normal ... assuming Kobegate doesn't overshadow it all.
 
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Free agency scoreboard

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Free-agent signings began July 16. Who's headed where? Find out below.
SIGNED AS FREE AGENT


Boston Celtics
Mark Blount re-signed to a multiyear contract.
Walter McCarty re-signed to a multiyear contract.



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Chicago Bulls
Scottie Pippen from Portland for two years and $10 million.


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Cleveland Cavaliers
Ira Newble from Atlanta for half of team's $4.9 million exception.
Kevin Ollie from Seattle for five years and $15 million.


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Detroit Pistons
Elden Campbell from Seattle for two years and about $8.4 million.



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Golden State Warriors
Speedy Claxton from San Antonio for three years and about $10 million.



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Houston Rockets
Eric Piatkowski from L.A. Clippers for three years and $8 million.


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Indiana Pacers
Jermaine O'Neal re-signed for seven years and $120 million.


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Los Angeles Clippers
Elton Brand re-signed for six years and $82.2 million after matching Miami.


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Los Angeles Lakers
Karl Malone from Utah for two years and $3 million.
Gary Payton from Milwaukee for the mid-level exception of $4.9 million.


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Milwaukee Bucks
Damon Jones from Sacramento for undisclosed terms.
Brian Skinner from Philadelphia for three years and $5 million.
Erick Strickland from Indiana for two years and $3.1 million.


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Minnesota Timberwolves
Mark Madsen from L.A. Lakers for undisclosed terms.
Michael Olowokandi from L.A. Clippers for three years and $16.2 million.


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New Jersey Nets
Jason Kidd re-signed for six years and $103 million.
Alonzo Mourning from Miami for four years and $22 million.


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New Orleans Hornets
Darrell Armstrong reportedly signs for two years and $6 million.
P.J. Brown re-signed for four years and $34 million.
Sean Rooks from L.A. Clippers for one year.


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Orlando Magic
Andrew DeClercq re-signed for a reported two years and $5 million.
Juwan Howard from Denver for five years and at least $28 million.
Tyronn Lue from Washington for two years and $3 million.


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Philadelphia 76ers
Kenny Thomas re-signed for seven years and over $40 million.


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Phoenix Suns
Jake Voskuhl re-signed for three years and $5 million.
Scott Williams re-signed for a reported one year and $1 million.


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San Antonio Spurs
Tim Duncan re-signed for seven years and $122 million.
Robert Horry from L.A. Lakers for two years and $9.5 million.
Rasho Nesterovic from Minnesota for six years and $45 million.


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Seattle SuperSonics
Antonio Daniels from Portland to a multiyear contract.




SIGNED OFFER SHEET

Denver Nuggets
Andre Miller from L.A. Clippers for six years and more than $51 million.


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Memphis Grizzlies
James Posey from Houston for a reported four years and $23 million.


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Utah Jazz
Corey Maggette from L.A. Clippers for six years.


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Washington Wizards
Gilbert Arenas from Golden State for six years and $65 million.




Now, who do you think are winners and losers?
Who is/ are the biggest winners and losers?
 

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Who said Gugliotta could never be traded?

Here's a trade idea.

Suns should send him to Utah for a second round pick.

Utah might go for this because they have to pick up $10 million in salary to meet the min. cap requirement. Googs would be a good fit because, he's white, his contract expires at the end of the year, he makes enough and he seems to be a pretty clean cut guy.

With Googs off the books maybe the Suns could use the mid level exception to pick up someone, or at least they could keep a young free agent instead of Dead Weight Gugliotta.
 

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Originally posted by devilalum
Who said Gugliotta could never be traded?

Here's a trade idea.

Suns should send him to Utah for a second round pick.

Utah might go for this because they have to pick up $10 million in salary to meet the min. cap requirement. Googs would be a good fit because, he's white, his contract expires at the end of the year, he makes enough and he seems to be a pretty clean cut guy.

With Googs off the books maybe the Suns could use the mid level exception to pick up someone, or at least they could keep a young free agent instead of Dead Weight Gugliotta.

Damn, you beat me to the punch! :D
 

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Suns should send him to Utah for a second round pick.

If Utah just wants to pick up dead salary, they can do better than Gugliotta.

But I can imagine something like this working if the Suns were to sweeten the deal. Unfortunately, that means giving up something of value, which might not be a better option than just gritting it out with Gugliotta's contract. Utah has a lot of wing players, so the Suns would probably have to part with a center, most likely Tsakalidis. That's probably not worth it.
 

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Originally posted by elindholm
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If Utah just wants to pick up dead salary, they can do better than Gugliotta.
Yes.

But I can imagine something like this working if the Suns were to sweeten the deal. Unfortunately, that means giving up something of value, which might not be a better option than just gritting it out with Gugliotta's contract. Utah has a lot of wing players, so the Suns would probably have to part with a center, most likely Tsakalidis. That's probably not worth it.
UTA doesn't really need another C with Collins, Borchardt,Ostertag and Amaechi on their roster.

Suns probably would have to sacrifice at least Barbosa if they want to dump Gugliotta on UTA.
 

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UTA doesn't really need another C with Collins, Borchardt,Ostertag and Amaechi on their roster.

Ostertag is gone after this season, and Amaechi and Collins have even less potential than Tsakalidis.

Suns probably would have to sacrifice at least Barbosa if they want to dump Gugliotta on UTA.

I doubt Barbosa would be adequate. So far, he's just the #28 pick in the draft. I don't think he has elevated his stock through his summer league play, even though Suns fans are very excited about him.

In my opinon, Tsakalidis has more trade value than Barbosa.
 

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Originally posted by SirStefan32
and Houston has made two significant additions (Jeff Van Gundy and Eric Piatkowski)
And they lost Posey which was (that's good for us) a stupid move from them.
 
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Why not give them Tsakalidis if they were stupid enough to take Googliota? We are not talking about Rasho Nesterovic, Vlade Divac, Alonzo Morning, or Brad Miller. We are talking about Iakovos Tsakalidis, a big stiff that can't play.
 

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How could Utah do better than Gugliotta?

Any other maximum or close to max players with expiring contracts available for trade?

Suns would throw Utah 3M$ in this deal and/or take maybe John Ameachi's contract.

Besides that Houston also lost Rudy Tomjanovic.
 

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Anybody think Googs' personal problems will affect him this season? Didn't his wife leave him or something?
 

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Originally posted by SirStefan32
Why not give them Tsakalidis if they were stupid enough to take Googliota?
How could we profit from that move?
That would save a lot of money for Colangelo but we couldn't use that cap room this year since all FA's -who could have helped us- signed elsewhere.
 

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Maybe Outlaw,Jacobsen,3 mil. cash for UTA's 2nd rounder- if LAC will match with UTA's offer sheet for Maggette.
 
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Maybe Outlaw,Jacobsen,3 mil. cash for UTA's 2nd rounder

Hmm, something like that really could happen. Or even just Outlaw. How much salary does Utah need to add?
 
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Originally posted by hcsilla
How could we profit from that move?
That would save a lot of money for Colangelo but we couldn't use that cap room this year since all FA's -who could have helped us- signed elsewhere.

We could profit by getting rid of Tom Googliota and maybe somebody else, save C's some money, and hope that they sing somebody next year.

I mean we are talking about Tom Googliota- it's not like he does anythyng anyways. He's going to sit on the IL all season anyways.

Utah would never go for it though.
 

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Originally posted by SirStefan32

I mean we are talking about Tom Googliota- it's not like he does anythyng anyways. He's going to sit on the IL all season anyways.


I always find it hilarious that people on this board write stuff like this and turn around and expect some other team to trade for him.
 

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Originally posted by SirStefan32
We could profit by getting rid of Tom Googliota and maybe somebody else, save C's some money, and hope that they sing somebody next year.

There is no need to get rid of Gugliotta (AND to lose Tsakalidis) if we can't sign anyone this offseason.
 
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Originally posted by Chaplin
I always find it hilarious that people on this board write stuff like this and turn around and expect some other team to trade for him.

Chap, where did I say that anybody in their right mind would trade for Googliota? Didn't you notice, "Utah would never go for it though. ? Please, don't put words in my mouth.

Thank you

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Originally posted by hcsilla
Maybe Outlaw,Jacobsen,3 mil. cash for UTA's 2nd rounder- if LAC will match with UTA's offer sheet for Maggette.

Then who will win the Dan Majerle Hustle Award?!?!?!?!?
 

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Originally posted by elindholm
Maybe Outlaw,Jacobsen,3 mil. cash for UTA's 2nd rounder

Hmm, something like that really could happen. Or even just Outlaw.
Considering UTA's actual squad their 2nd rounder is a #30-35 pick.I don't have any problems with dealing of Jacobsen for a high 2nd rounder.


How much salary does Utah need to add?
About 12 mil. if they won't get Maggette.

BTW, I still have the feeling that LAC won't match Maggette's offer sheet.
 

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Originally posted by SirStefan32
Chap, where did I say that anybody in their right mind would trade for Googliota? Didn't you notice, "Utah would never go for it though. ? Please, don't put words in my mouth.

Thank you

Stefan

But SS, why do you even attempt to bring it up? It's like me talking about how there will be a meteor crashing into the earth tomorrow, and then saying, "but, it'll probably never happen".
 
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