Why will Murray fail?

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  1. Vacard

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    Brett Farve had a 22

    Marino 16

    Bu bu bu different era? Bu bu bu whats the next excuse?
     
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    But are we really changing the definition because Russell was a success? Because that's what Im hearing.
     
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    I know I mean he isnt a what I would consider a dual threat as in a 1 or 2 read and I'm gone he is looking to throw the ball if at all possible Run is the Absolutely Last resort would you not agree with that statement
     
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    NFL level defensive coordinators and players doing to Kingsbury's Air Raid offensive what they did to the Run and Shoot is how Murray is going to fail in the NFL. Kill the quarterback is first and foremost how the passing game is defended in the NFL.

    Concepts of the Air Raid offense:

    1) Full time hurry up to wear down the defense - more plays = more opportunities to get hurt.

    2) Pass first, up to 75% passes - that isn't running the ball to keep defenders from teeing off on your quarterback

    3) Wide line splits - just giving holes for NFL speed to get to your quarterback.

    4) Simplified system that doesn't feature route trees and runs the same plays over and over. A false pre-snap read, his one read covered and Murray is running for his life every other play.
     
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    conraddobler I want my 2$

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    I have no opinion on anything other than baseball vs football.

    Any kid that has a chance at both should in my opinion STRONGLY consider baseball if at all possible and if I were advising my own kid in a similar situation I'd tell him to take the football money then go try baseball since football seems to be the more sure thing. I'd tell them to consider that option at least. I'd also tell them to go somewhere or favor anywhere that would not make them sign a contract that says no baseball.

    I'd hate to tell them to lie so I'm not saying he is when he says he's not going to go to baseball but people will say what they have to say and he may even believe it but the idea is still there you have to think.

    If he has a rough year what are the odds he doesn't start thinking that way?

    Longer career, less chance of injury you'd have to think, no?
     
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    Whew .. at least he's not Vince Young :)
     
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    Oh, you were talking the finger injury. You're right on that. I thought you were talking his knee injury of 2014.
     
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    His best years even as a passer were prior to his knee injury with the exception of 1998 in Minnesota.
     
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    I was at that game. Palmer hurt his finger in the 3rd quarter and HB blew his knee out in garbage time with the game 40-17 and should have never been out there. But for Palmer, he came out the next week and threw for 269 yards and 2 TD's but it was clear he was hurting. Should have been benched the final 2 weeks but BA insisted on playing him.
     
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    This is a great post.

    Honest truth, I do think some version of the Air Raid is going to be the way the NFL has to go in the future, just because of the lack of other concepts being taught in the college game, but it's not here yet. The old guard of coaching is going to have to retire.

    My fear is we're about a decade too early.
     
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    At least a decade too early
     
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    Didn’t @DVontel say that Allen HS is 58-3 since Murray left? The kid has been amazing but talk about some fortunate situations. Also Oklahoma transfer Jalen Hurts has the third best Heisman odds going into next season.
     
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    3 more losses than Murray had as a starter. He was 43-0 as a starter and won 3 straight state titles.
     
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    His actual play is ok.
    I worry about his lack of experience.
    I worry about his preparation and work ethic as he has always succeeded with sheer athletic ability.
    I worry about his ability to overcome adversity, because he has never done it that I have seen.

    That is how he fails in the NFL.
     
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    IMHO recipe for disaster and a rather short career in the NFL as has been stated on here and other places Murray isnt to adaptable to other systems so We all shall see
     

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