Who would you like to coach the Suns next season?

Discussion in 'Phoenix Suns' started by 1tinsoldier, Feb 9, 2019.

Who would you like to coach the Suns next season?

  1. Igor Kokoskov.

    37.8%
  2. Some other experienced, qualified coach.

    62.2%
  1. High Stakes

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    Becky hamon? Jkidd? Thibs?

    You crazy.

    I like....

    Jay wright
    David vanderpool
    Luke Walton
    Frank Vogel
    Bill self
    Thunder dan
    Eddie Johnson

    For GM
    Steal Elton brand
    Steve Nash
     
  2. offset

    offset i have a special purpose

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    If we move away from Igor I can’t see how we can hire another coach without any head coaching experience. Maybe I could see a college coach, but no way on another first timer.
     
  3. Folster

    Folster The system doesn't work.

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    I voted Igor. I think he is a good coach and I'm not going to judge him this year due to management instability (firing McD before the season) and poor roster construction (no point guard).

    Also, there is no way a legitimate coach even entertains the Suns if we fire another coach after one season. None of the coaches that people have mentioned would even interview.
     
  4. Matt L

    Matt L formerly known as mattyboy

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    I don't think he is a good coach right now but I am hoping that he is learning this season and will be able to grow into a decent coach. That said, they need a GM that can get some complementary pieces in this off season.
     
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    i agree. but if you believe more damage will be done without change
    and Sarver will only make the change if it isn't expensive,
    you start considering all options
     
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    EJ would never commit to the coaching lifestyle but it’s an interesting idea. I don’t think he would ever leave Gonzaga but Mark Few always seems to have complete teams. They overachieve and he’s starting to put guys in the league. Calipari is still my #1 but you’d have to make him a top-5 paid coach and give him full control. Dreaming is free.
     
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    fair enough
    but i don't see any signs that he's learning
    every time i do hear or see something new about his coaching
    it makes little sense to me
    it's as if he learned little from his 18 years of coaching experience he already has

    even if time could repair his judgement
    how many more years might it take?
     
  8. BC867

    BC867 Long time Phoenician! Contributor

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    Sometimes that is the best time to judge a coach. To see if he is proactive, flexible and responsive to the situation. Igor is a good coach. But not a good Head Coach ... in the NBA. Which he has never been before.

    IF we get an experience General Manager, every legitimate Head Coach will understand his wanting to choose his own.

    Even now, do you think that all NBA personnel do not recognize that Igor is passive, inflexible, previously unproven and out of place. They are not naive. They know it a lot better than we do.

    Unfortunately, they also know that Server hires bargain basement personnel. That is the problem.
     
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  9. Matt L

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    I would say we should have a good idea by the end of next year.

    Going through the list of coaches who are available or mentioned in prior posts, I think Hammond is intriguing. I think Thibs' philosophy is not going to work in the current NBA. I think Luke Walton is going to be similar to Igor. Jay Wright is intriguing too but I don't know why he would come to the Suns when he has a pretty good gig and the Suns are so dysfunctional. I think that is a bigger reason why the Suns can't get a good coach, the front office is a mess and any experienced head coach would pass on working for Sarver and whoever else in the front office is trying to steer this clown car.
     
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    He doesn’t have to worry about that, I’m sure he’s the first NBA owner to flap his arms like a chicken to an opposing NBA coach.

    Probably doesn’t count for anything though.
     
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    But how much do coaches care if they get fired? They get paid for the duration of their contract (right?), and firing is so commonplace that it can't be a stigma.

    Eighteen of the league's 30 head coaches have been in their jobs for three years or less. There are ten(!!) who have been on the job for less time than Kokoskov has with the Suns. Short relationships are normal, and Kokoskov is already on the verge of beating the odds.

    If I'm a head coach, I don't mind the prospect of the Suns if the main issue is longevity. Sure, I'll get fired in a year or two, but if they're going to pay me for at least three, I'm happy. The bigger concern with the Suns is that the roster is a long way from being competitive, and the front office takes two steps backward for every step they accidentally make forward.
     
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    The closest thing we have to a concensus seems to be: Our current FO cannot hire a decent coach.

    Assuming that is true, I'd be interested to know how many people think we should fire Igor anyway and just keep scraping the bottom of the barrel until somebody accepts the job?
    Of course, some people might disagree with the assumption, meaning, they think there is at least a slim chance the current FO could hire someone better than Igor and think it's worth the risk of firing Igor.
     
  13. Poop Head

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    This poll was slanted from the start. I don't think it really makes the case for firing Igor because who here wouldn't rather have a more experienced coach like Budenholzer coaching the Suns? I remember when he interviewed that virtually everyone was in agreement that it would be a good hire. When Igor ultimately was hired after Budenholzer passed though I don't recall any strong objections. I don't think anyone here other than a handful of posters think that Igor should be fired. Whether Igor should be fired or not is a completely different question though and not one we really need to get into because it makes little sense to debate it because for the most everyone's mind has been made up for months.

    Igor's been given a crap roster and has had a job babysit a bunch of 19-22 year olds this year with the exception of Grandpa Crawford, who is only here because Jones signed him right at the beginning of the season, and a couple of other old players who had quit before the season started like Ariza and Chandler. Igor's had an uphill battle this year and to judge his coaching based on how this team was constructed is not a clear picture of what he's capable of as a coach, IMO. There's a reason that Pop, Doc Rivers, Gentry, Quinn Snyder, and many other top coaches in the league speak so highly of him. I'll take their word over what they say about Igor as a coach over some posters here who felt like we should be competing for something other than pingpong balls.
     
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    I still think there's a fair chance that Koko will become the best coach we've ever had. The other side of that coin is it leaves a lot of room for him to be one of the worst also. I have no idea whether he's a good coach. I also have no idea how anyone can be CERTAIN that he isn't.

    There aren't any NBA people I'm aware of that believe we have an actual NBA roster and until that happens, judging him is pure guesswork IMO. I'm not in love with what I've seen of his offense or the growth of some of the players but it's not like we really have historical examples to turn to when evaluating this kiddie squad. It's a real mess.
     
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    i agree that Sarver is an incompetent owner and i don't have faith in Jones.
    but even incompetence does not preclude them from hiring a good coach in the future
    Igor himself, was not an incompetent hire, since he didn't have a history as a head coach.
    but he was a cheap hire, and a high-risk hire, since no other team was interested in promoting him or hiring him in 17 years

    incompetence does enter the equation, however, in giving him a 3 year contract

    regardless, even Sarver may have learned his lesson and be willing to invest in a good coach now,
    or, even if not, he could take a risk on another relatively cheap hire, like Becky Hammon, and get lucky.
    and some of us believe just about any replacement coach would be a better risk than another year of this.

    this poll, however, pertains only to him, not his replacement. it is especially helpful considering that some continue to insist that only a couple of posters would like to see him replaced, when in truth, it is the majority opinion
     
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