Who are the Suns bringing back next season?

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  1. Mainstreet

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    I thought it would be fun to discuss the Suns roster for next season.

    Any thoughts about who the Suns should keep or let go from the current roster?

    Suns have eight players with guaranteed contracts next season:

    1. Devin Booker
    2. Ricky Rubio
    3. Kelly Oubre,
    4. Deandre Ayton
    5. Mikal Bridges
    6. Cameron Johnson
    7. Ty Jerome
    8. Jalen Lecque

    These are the players the Suns will need to make a decision about:

    9. Elie Okobo (contract becomes guaranteed if not waived prior to July 10th, 2020)
    10. Jevon Carter (free agent)
    11. Frank Kaminsky (team option $5,005,350) Salary is right.
    12. Cheick Diallo (team option $1,824,003) A keeper at his salary and age.
    13. Dario Saric (RFA $4,791,212) He will get better offers in free agency.
    14. Aron Baynes (free agent) I believe cap hold is around $10 million.

    Tariq Owens is on a two-way contract this season.
     
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    Jevon Carter looks to be a keeper. He can hit the 3 pointer and plays tenacious defense. Point guard skills should improve. I'd like to keep Cheick Diallo as well. Played backup center and power forward at times. And he is on a great salary.
     
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    Carter is a restricted free agent also. As a 2nd round pick, his cap hold will be pretty low. It's estimated to be just $1.9 million now, which is also the qualifying offer for him. They can resign him for less than that but it would need to be for multiple years. Even 2 years at $1.5 a season sounds fair. I think anything around $2 million a year for him is fair.

    Here's his salary info from Spotrac.com
    https://www.spotrac.com/nba/phoenix-suns/jevon-carter-26998/
     
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    This makes keeping Carter a no-brainer. The source I used didn't show this.

    Do you feel the same about keeping Diallo who is a team option at a low salary?
     
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    Okobo is gone. He needs to G League it for a while.
    Carter and Cheick stay on the cheap.
    I don't think Frank is worth the money for 3rd string.
    I like Dario, but it depends on the price and who else we might be after.
    Baynes might cost too much for what he brings coupled with his age. But I love what he did for us in his short stint.

    But these are all small moves. I wonder if we decide to make a bigger splash and trade Rubio so that we can sign VanVleet. Will Toronto want to pay him? I wonder if he's done being a backup PG/starting SG next to Lowry. He might come a bit over priced but we'd be hard pressed to find a better FA PG at 26 years old. I think he'd be a decent fit next to Book.
     
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    If Diallo could be retained for the minimum about 2-3 weeks into free agency then I'd be fine with bringing him back but I hope they can bring in someone with a little more to offer as the 4-5th bigs.

    Carter should be a no brainer though. I'm fine with paying him a little over the minimum, like I said something like 2-3 years at around $5-6 million should lock him in. I'd even concede a player option. He should be the 5th guard in the rotation at the furthest down. His defensive intensity makes bringing him back at anything around $2 million a year a good deal.
     
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    VanVleet isn't leaving Toronto. The only way I can see that happening is if he's offered the max by someone and that would be a massive overpay for him. I like him quite a bit but that's in large part because I watched a lot of the Raptors in the playoffs last year during their title run. Those players from that team aren't going anywhere though. I don't think Toronto cares if they suck so long as the rest of that crew is taken care of. They won't suck either because a new core of Siakam, VanVleet, and Powell will be similar to the Leonard, Lowry, Danny Green trio they had. They probably wish they could have Jonas Valenciunus back instead of Marc Gasol but they'll be fine without him.

    I also think Rubio plays out his contract here. We won't compete for a title in the next 2 seasons but there is a very good chance they could find a PG for him to mentor and get ready to take over for when his deal is up. That is how the Suns should play it with him. He doesn't have trade value so it's not like there are options out there to move him. No one we have is ready to take over so might as well keep the slow but steady climb going.
     
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    I’ve definitely been wrong on Carter in the sense that he’s not terrible. He could very well be in the G League within two years but he plays hard and his rookie shooting numbers were likely a fluke as some here suggested. Unfortunately he looks like a much better option than our 1st round rookie PG.
     
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    He worked hard on improving his shooting from rookie to sophomore seasons. He said he put up 1000 shots a day to get a better feel for it and get his shot and confidence going. I don't think he'll ever be a good shooter but I think average isn't asking too much. He has the work ethic and that alone should keep him around for a while. He reminds me a lot of PJ Tucker when the Suns brought him in that first season. Just one of those guys that will earn playing time by playing harder than anyone else and doesn't need touches or looks to impact the game. PJ was a bit older than Javon but I could see Javon getting it now while it took PJ a few years overseas before he learned what it took to stay in the NBA, which he showed here in Phoenix.
     
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    We agree Carter and Diallo are keepers for the money. It seems like the Suns will probably choose between Baynes and Saric. They can't afford both. I guess it depends on the money and what the Suns plan to do at power forward. I do think role playing centers are easier to find than power forwards. Kaminsky will likely be a casualty as will be Okobo.

    I'd probably rather spend free agency money on a starting power forward and go with Rubio although VanVleet would be quite a catch. I bet the Knicks would like Rubio in a trade. It's hard to see the Raptors letting VanVleet go though.

    If I were going to guess at a move, I wouldn't be surprised to see Aaron Gordon in a Suns uniform. They were reportedly interested at the trade deadline.
     
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    I think Diallo should be a fine depth ball player plus he is young and can still improve. Suns have to fill a 15 man roster to fill. Hopefully they can add more athletes at the 4/5 with a reasonable price tag.

    That would be a reasonable deal for Carter if the Suns are believers like we are.
     
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    I've read the Knicks are going to go all in on a Chris Paul trade with OKC. Despite OKC having a good season, they don't want to pay Paul his $110 million or whatever ludicrous amount is left on his contract for the next 3 years. New York wants Paul to jump start their youth movement similar to how he did in OKC and I can see them getting a 7th or 8th seed in the East, depending on what it costs to acquire him.

    I don't think Rubio moves the needle enough for them to have interest in him if they strike out on Paul. While he'd be good, he wouldn't improve their club like Paul could, and he won't sell tickets either. If they did strike out on Paul then the Suns might able to dump on him New York but that would be so late in the free agency stage that I doubt the Suns would have interest since there wouldn't be anyone left to go after.
     
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    Rubio isn't the problem. I don't remember the numbers but the starting 5 of the latter part of the year with Rubio, Booker, Bridges, Oubre and Ayton have done really well. The priority should be to shore up the bench (and hopefully people who can stay on the court).

    I'd love to get Baynes back but he's been out a huge chunk of the year. Similar sentiment with Kaminsky but he doesn't add as much value.
     
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    The priority needs to be a starting power forward. THEN shore up the bench.
     
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    I guess it depends on who they can get. I would love to bring back Carter, Baynes, Kaminsky, and Saric (in that order of priority). But that is only if they cannot upgrade any of those slots. I do not think upgrading those slots will be very easy. Okobo, Diallo need to go.
     

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