USC/UCLA leaving Pac12 for Big10?

[AZCB34]

I don't think that's realistic at all.

Reports (Heather Dinich) are saying the upcoming announcement will have the deal “on par” with Big12 and ACC. I don’t know what that means but it seems to possibly refute your realistic comment

I would add that Dinich is with ESPN and could easily be getting inside updates as I suspect ESPN will likely end up doing a weekly PAC after Dark game as part of the package

 

[Folster]

Reports (Heather Dinich) are saying the upcoming announcement will have the deal “on par” with Big12 and ACC. I don’t know what that means but it seems to possibly refute your realistic comment

I would add that Dinich is with ESPN and could easily be getting inside updates as I suspect ESPN will likely end up doing a weekly PAC after Dark game as part of the package

The BIG 12 just negotiated a new contract worth $380M annually which breaks down to $31.6M per team. That can obviously increase with playoff and tournament appearances, but $31.6M is the base number. The ACC is $36M per team. $50M per team for the PAC is not realistic unless Apple decides to overpay for some reason.

 

[Mainstreet]

The BIG 12 just negotiated a new contract worth $380M annually which breaks down to $31.6M per team. That can obviously increase with playoff and tournament appearances, but $31.6M is the base number. The ACC is $36M per team. $50M per team for the PAC is not realistic unless Apple decides to overpay for some reason.

Teams will be clamoring to get in the PAC-12. Wouldn't that be a shocker.

 

[AZCB34]

The BIG 12 just negotiated a new contract worth $380M annually which breaks down to $31.6M per team. That can obviously increase with playoff and tournament appearances, but $31.6M is the base number. The ACC is $36M per team. $50M per team for the PAC is not realistic unless Apple decides to overpay for some reason.

I had read and heard $50m per tan in Big12. Clearly that info was wrong?

Thanks for clarification.

So then $32m per team is the number that will, at least temporarily, keep the conference going? Anything less than that and three timeline speeds up

 

[AZCB34]

The BIG 12 just negotiated a new contract worth $380M annually which breaks down to $31.6M per team. That can obviously increase with playoff and tournament appearances, but $31.6M is the base number. The ACC is $36M per team. $50M per team for the PAC is not realistic unless Apple decides to overpay for some reason.

I am wondering if the $50m I heard includes the tournament/playoff/bowl payouts. It must

 

[Folster]

I had read and heard $50m per tan in Big12. Clearly that info was wrong?

Thanks for clarification.

So then $32m per team is the number that will, at least temporarily, keep the conference going? Anything less than that and three timeline speeds up

I think a base annual amount per school needs to be at least high 20's for the PAC to survive. It can be slightly less than the Big 12 when you consider travel and other switching costs like loss of academic prestige and sharing. A couple million in a sports media deal is peanuts when compared to the academic and research money that the PAC creates.

Also, there is a competitive advantage to staying in the PAC when it comes to a playoff auto-bid for the conference champ. There is a much easier path to the playoffs keeping the PAC together.

I do think CU could bolt it the per team number is lower, but despite their lackluster athletic performance since joining the PAC, their research money has grown considerably in that time, much faster than it would have in the BIG 12. Research money dwarfs athletic revenue, so while we care about football, academics drives the decisions.

It's hard to see a PAC school jumping to the BIG 12 unless the conference falls apart with UW and UO leaving to the B1G or the money difference is significant.

 

[Folster]

I am wondering if the $50m I heard includes the tournament/playoff/bowl payouts. It must

I recall hearing that number and I believe it was this past season and it included the TCU playoff/national championship game and all of their NCAA tournament appearances.

 

[Dback Jon]

I am wondering if the $50m I heard includes the tournament/playoff/bowl payouts. It must

Yes - that is all conference revenue distributions.

 

[SeattleCardinal]

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[ASUCHRIS]

We're stuck between bad options - the big 12 is our most likely suitor and a terrible cultural/institutional fit with the Pac.

 

[SeattleCardinal]

Also, a non "corner" school in the mix? Scheer is a Wildcat guy, of course.

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[SeattleCardinal]

We're stuck between bad options - the big 12 is our most likely suitor and a terrible cultural/institutional fit with the Pac.

No bueno.

 

[Folster]

Sounds like CU is out. One more school and the whole thing implodes.

 

[Folster]

The PAC media deal must not have been close in completion or numbers.

 

[SeattleCardinal]

The PAC media deal must not have been close in completion or numbers.

Or both. Sad situation, with so many management errors over the past few years.

 

[MigratingOsprey]

Looks like the 12 is pushing to draw a line from Boulder/Denver, through Provo/SLC and into LA

The AZ schools are going to be on an island pretty soon

 

[Lefty]

If Colorado leaves, I would not be surprised if Arizona follows. I don't know about ASU since I have heard Crow wants to stay in the Pac-12. Robbins seems to be more willing to leave. He did say ABOR could not stop them from leaving if ASU doesn't.

 

[Lefty]

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[Mainstreet]

More on Colorado reportedly leaving PAC-12.

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Colorado Buffaloes expected to re-join Big 12

Colorado is set to compete in the Pac-12 for the 13th year, but it is now expected to be the Buffaloes' final year in the conference...

247sports.com

 

[Lefty]

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[WiscoBird]

Well, looks like we can officially call this the end of the PAC. Crow knows the B1G is not coming for us, right?

 

[Lefty]

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[AZCB34]

The PAC media deal must not have been close in completion or numbers.

I think you are right. I am guessing it is a numbers thing since I get the sense there is likely a framework in place but perhaps that is wishful thinking.

this is the first step in the last chapter of the PAC

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

I seriously hope the two stooges (Crow, Anderson) are going to follow suit and bail.

 

[TJ]

The next domino to fall will be Arizona