Todd Heap

[Cards Czar]

Latest buzz has Rex Ryan (Jets) making a run at Heap.

Read that jeff. Rex met him at the airport and had him in a bear hug. Hmmm. Comon Cards you have a bunch of money. Lets get a good 2 TE set here and lets roll.

 

[PACardsFan]

You have to be intellectually dishonest or flat out stupid to think that any one (Dansby) defensive player would have made a difference last year. Granted, losing Dansby was a blow, but ABSOLUTELY nothing would have overcome the debacle we had at the QB position. Having a horrible QB in the NFL would be akin to a baseball team not fielding the entire left side of their infield.

 

[Garthshort]

As Jeff said, here in NY, the word is that Rex Ryan's Ravens' roots will give the Jets the edge in landing Heap. We'll see.

 

[AzStevenCal]

That's the fashionable reason.

But you could also say that if the Cards had kept Dansby the Defense would have been at least 2 wins better and we'd have had a shot at first and wouldn't have finished last.

Nobody knows for sure but at least the QB question will be answered this season. Of course if the Defense blows again and the Cards finish 5-11 as a result the excuse will probably be that Kolb didn't have enough time to work with the offense and the new receivers and the new OC and so the lack of offense put too much pressure on the Defense.

But we're not alone in this. Few fans ever blame their Defense for poor seasons or even many single game defeats.

I still believe that even if the QB play had been average the team would have struggled to get to a position to win the Division. No team can lose the quantity of quality players in one off season the Cardinals did and not.

+100.

Steve

 

[AzStevenCal]

You have to be intellectually dishonest or flat out stupid to think that any one (Dansby) defensive player would have made a difference last year. Granted, losing Dansby was a blow, but ABSOLUTELY nothing would have overcome the debacle we had at the QB position. Having a horrible QB in the NFL would be akin to a baseball team not fielding the entire left side of their infield.

I think it would have made a difference but not enough to win the division by itself. Even if it did get us the division, we still would have been an incredibly inept team. The only thing that might have played out better is that an overall improved showing during the preseason might have kept Whiz from coming down so hard on Leinart and the offense. Better handled, perhaps Matty doesn't go into pout mode and we don't go through a season with the worst QB situation perhaps ever. Matt wouldn't have led us to the Super Bowl but he and Dansby would have been worth 3 more wins IMO. I know, this is a lot of speculation on my part but it's what crosses my mind every time someone mentions Karlos.

Steve

 

[Duckjake]

You have to be intellectually dishonest or flat out stupid to think that any one (Dansby) defensive player would have made a difference last year. Granted, losing Dansby was a blow, but ABSOLUTELY nothing would have overcome the debacle we had at the QB position. Having a horrible QB in the NFL would be akin to a baseball team not fielding the entire left side of their infield.

That's your and many others opinion. However, the Cards blew two late leads in games that could have turned the entire season. It only took 7-9 to win and they won 5 with those horrendous QBs*.

So it is possible that a one player better Defense could have turned those 2 around and got the Cards in the Division race. Not likely but it could have happened.

(Of course they just as easily could have finished 3-13 if Oakland and Dallas hadn't missed chip shot kicks.)

In addition the Cards were continually behind by 14-21 points before halftime because the Defense couldn't stop any team with a pulse without a turnover. That had to be taking the Cards out of their game plan early and that is never a good thing for an offense especially one with a weak QB corps. Dansby called the Defense. How do you know that it wasn't the change in that area that was causing the total collapse of the defense?

But again its more likely you guys are right and a decent QB will make the difference between last place and first place. I sure hope so because we have a potentially decent QB. We still don't have a Dansby.

*What is really sad is that Somers was blogging from camp around this time last year about how inaccurate Anderson had been and that DA wasn't pushing any QB on the roster let alone Leinart.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

That's the fashionable reason.

But you could also say that if the Cards had kept Dansby the Defense would have been at least 2 wins better and we'd have had a shot at first and wouldn't have finished last.

Nobody knows for sure but at least the QB question will be answered this season. Of course if the Defense blows again and the Cards finish 5-11 as a result the excuse will probably be that Kolb didn't have enough time to work with the offense and the new receivers and the new OC and so the lack of offense put too much pressure on the Defense.

But we're not alone in this. Few fans ever blame their Defense for poor seasons or even many single game defeats.

I still believe that even if the QB play had been average the team would have struggled to get to a position to win the Division. No team can lose the quantity of quality players in one off season the Cardinals did and not.

Starters:

Quantity 4: Hayes, Dansby, Rolle, McFadden
Quality: Dansby, Rolle

Hayes: injury
Rolle: replaced more than adequately by Rhodes.
McFadden: replaced more than adequately by Toler
Dansby: A true loss in quality.

But, Karlos could never offset the fact that the "D" was on the field for close to 5 minutes more game, after game, after game. (IMO)

 

[Shane]

Starters:

Quantity 4: Hayes, Dansby, Rolle, McFadden
Quality: Dansby, Rolle

Hayes: injury
Rolle: replaced and was outperformed by Rhodes.
McFadden: replaced more than adequately by Toler
Dansby: A true loss in quality.

But, Karlos could never offset the fact that the "D" was on the field for close to 5 minutes more game, after game, after game. (IMO)

FTFY

 

[40yearfan]

That's the fashionable reason.

But you could also say that if the Cards had kept Dansby the Defense would have been at least 2 wins better and we'd have had a shot at first and wouldn't have finished last.

Nobody knows for sure but at least the QB question will be answered this season. Of course if the Defense blows again and the Cards finish 5-11 as a result the excuse will probably be that Kolb didn't have enough time to work with the offense and the new receivers and the new OC and so the lack of offense put too much pressure on the Defense.

But we're not alone in this. Few fans ever blame their Defense for poor seasons or even many single game defeats.

I still believe that even if the QB play had been average the team would have struggled to get to a position to win the Division. No team can lose the quantity of quality players in one off season the Cardinals did and not.

Dj, our defense wasn't much better even when we had Dansby and he sure didn't do us any favors on that last drive Pittsburg made during the SB. Our defense has been really poor since Buddy Ryan left. We can argue this all day long, but it is obvious. When Warner left, this team went into a nose dive. That is exactly why we were 5 - 11 last year.

 

[SuperSpck]

Todd Heap's on the fence about where to sign.

He decides the factor that will influence his signing will be the fans.
So he googles himself.
Sees ASFN.
A 14 page thread?!
He eagerly dives in.
Sees all of two dozen posts that apply to him.
Signs with the Eagles.

 

[PJ1]

Hate to see Heap visiting the Jets today. I really wanted him to become a Cardinal.

 

[Krangodnzr]

We likely won't sign Todd Heap, and IMO that may be a good thing. We're young at Tight End with Housler and Dray, and those guys need to play as many snaps as possible. IMO Heap is a good fit for a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

 

[Duckjake]

Dj, our defense wasn't much better even when we had Dansby and he sure didn't do us any favors on that last drive Pittsburg made during the SB. Our defense has been really poor since Buddy Ryan left. We can argue this all day long, but it is obvious. When Warner left, this team went into a nose dive. That is exactly why we were 5 - 11 last year.

40 our defense was light years better when we had Dansby in his prime.

You really believe the Defense that the Cards ran out on the field last season could have held 4 opponents in the playoffs to an average of 72.5 yards a game rushing? That that defense could have held the Steelers long enough for the Cards to get back in the game?

But it was Dansby's fault that the Cards lost the SB. After all it was his interception that set the Cards up for the drive where Warner threw the INT that Harrison returned 100 yards for a TD. Stupid Dansby.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Adequately replaced by guys who haven't played a down for us? Can I borrow your crystal ball I'd like to buy some lottery tickets tomorrow.

seriously.

 

[Shane]

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Heap visiting NY Jets today, according to NY Daily News http://bsun.md/rk9Etd #ravens