This draft deserves an A+, Rock solid

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This draft deserves and A+

I disagree completely with a few posts saying how we dropped the ball on the 2nd day, and how some picks on the first day were unimpressive. Maybe people thought we were going after glamour players at glitzy positions only, I'm glad we didn't.

1st - We got 3 playmakers in the first 3 rounds, granted we didn't move down for additional picks, but we came away with the BEST WR in the draft, and the safest, who is familiar with Denny Green. IMO, Fitz compares well to Terrell Owens.

2nd - We drafted possibly the BEST LB in the draft, I know alot of sites who had Dansby ahead of Williams and slightly behind Vilma. This is the player I'm most excited about us drafting. He is a very intelligent linebacker, very good passrusher on the blitz, has the size to play over the TE, along with the range to go sideline to sideline. We have lacked a playmaker at LB for YEARS, Thompson is a huge disappointment IMO, as I thought he could turn out more like Mobley from Denver or IMO, Dansby compares to Arrington, just not as fast, same playmaking ability.

3rd - In Dockett we drafted a pass rusher, plain and simple, what have the Cardinals been the worst at in the NFL the past 3 years, rushing the QB. Even on 3rd and long situations, we have seriously looked like some red headed step child just getting his head beat in on a consistant basis. Denny saw this and when he saw Dockett falling to the 3rd round, it took him lik 30 seconds to get the card in, that should tell you something. I think he replaces Bryant or King as the starter by week 2 or 3 this season, if not in training camp. IMO, Dockett compares to Johnny Randle, if he can stay out of trouble, we have a GEM.

We had a solid 2nd day, could turn out to be very solid if SCOOBY develops into a serviceable pass rusher.

4th - Step - MEAN player(Which I like at OL), very intelligent, will be a starter for us IMO, making all the line calls. Very good run blocker, needs to work on his footwork and pass protection a bit. Should start immediately at OG. He can watch Kendell and how he plays at Center, while trying to hold off our 6th rounder and start at guard.

5th - SCOOBY, I mean Smith - I thought we made a major reach here, at a position that I thought we could address in the UDFA market, and we could have found a good RB in Turner/Lavalais or one of the many decent corners still left on the board. He's an effort guy, but not much of an athlete. I only hope they saw something in him, that alot of us didn't, and can motivate him to play at a high level.

6th - Leckey - I absolutely loved this pick, oh we already drafted a center, he was the BPA imo. This guy plays NASTY MEAN, I mean Steve Wisniewski mean if you know what I'm talkin about. I don't think I'm being presumptious in saying he should challenge for a starting spot early. He's a drive blocker, and picks up blitzes well, I don't think he's as advanced as Step in his ability to make the line calls though. A starter in the 6th round, how can you complain.

7th - Navarre - Solid, another BPA candidate. He will make the team, Parsons is in trouble, and will have to play extremely well in camp to beat out King. I don't think Denny is willing to wait for him to develope, as he will with Navarre. He can make all the throws, he's calm in the pocket. He reminds me of Brady in that he's cool as ice when the pressure is on.

I still think we need an upgrade at corner, with Starks and Macklin starting and Hill at #3, I think we NEED help here before the seasons starts, I don't trust Starks ability to stay healthy at all, he's worn everyones patience in AZ with his big contract/no results. Wilson moves back to SS.

I feel this is Clements last year to show what he's got, I'm betting Denny and Rod are already searching/scouting for his replacement.

Rock solid draft Cardinals, thanks for finally looking like a REAL NFL team on draft day. It gives us hope to think we'll resemble one on Sundays now. :thumbup:

I'm more excited now, than the year we drafted Wadsworth and company. Now it's up to Denny and the coaching staff to develope these players.
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Savage58 said:
This draft deserves and A+

I disagree completely with a few posts saying how we dropped the ball on the 2nd day, and how some picks on the first day were unimpressive. Maybe people thought we were going after glamour players at glitzy positions only, I'm glad we didn't.

1st - We got 3 playmakers in the first 3 rounds, granted we didn't move down for additional picks, but we came away with the BEST WR in the draft, and the safest, who is familiar with Denny Green. IMO, Fitz compares well to Terrell Owens.

2nd - We drafted possibly the BEST LB in the draft, I know alot of sites who had Dansby ahead of Williams and slightly behind Vilma. This is the player I'm most excited about us drafting. He is a very intelligent linebacker, very good passrusher on the blitz, has the size to play over the TE, along with the range to go sideline to sideline. We have lacked a playmaker at LB for YEARS, Thompson is a huge disappointment IMO, as I thought he could turn out more like Mobley from Denver or IMO, Dansby compares to Arrington, just not as fast, same playmaking ability.

3rd - In Dockett we drafted a pass rusher, plain and simple, what have the Cardinals been the worst at in the NFL the past 3 years, rushing the QB. Even on 3rd and long situations, we have seriously looked like some red headed step child just getting his head beat in on a consistant basis. Denny saw this and when he saw Dockett falling to the 3rd round, it took him lik 30 seconds to get the card in, that should tell you something. I think he replaces Bryant or King as the starter by week 2 or 3 this season, if not in training camp. IMO, Dockett compares to Johnny Randle, if he can stay out of trouble, we have a GEM.

We had a solid 2nd day, could turn out to be very solid if SCOOBY develops into a serviceable pass rusher.

4th - Step - MEAN player(Which I like at OL), very intelligent, will be a starter for us IMO, making all the line calls. Very good run blocker, needs to work on his footwork and pass protection a bit. Should start immediately at OG. He can watch Kendell and how he plays at Center, while trying to hold off our 6th rounder and start at guard.

5th - SCOOBY, I mean Smith - I thought we made a major reach here, at a position that I thought we could address in the UDFA market, and we could have found a good RB in Turner/Lavalais or one of the many decent corners still left on the board. He's an effort guy, but not much of an athlete. I only hope they saw something in him, that alot of us didn't, and can motivate him to play at a high level.

6th - Leckey - I absolutely loved this pick, oh we already drafted a center, he was the BPA imo. This guy plays NASTY MEAN, I mean Steve Wisniewski mean if you know what I'm talkin about. I don't think I'm being presumptious in saying he should challenge for a starting spot early. He's a drive blocker, and picks up blitzes well, I don't think he's as advanced as Step in his ability to make the line calls though. A starter in the 6th round, how can you complain.

7th - Navarre - Solid, another BPA candidate. He will make the team, Parsons is in trouble, and will have to play extremely well in camp to beat out King. I don't think Denny is willing to wait for him to develope, as he will with Navarre. He can make all the throws, he's calm in the pocket. He reminds me of Brady in that he's cool as ice when the pressure is on.

I still think we need an upgrade at corner, with Starks and Macklin starting and Hill at #3, I think we NEED help here before the seasons starts, I don't trust Starks ability to stay healthy at all, he's worn everyones patience in AZ with his big contract/no results. Wilson moves back to SS.

I feel this is Clements last year to show what he's got, I'm betting Denny and Rod are already searching/scouting for his replacement.

Rock solid draft Cardinals, thanks for finally looking like a REAL NFL team on draft day. It gives us hope to think we'll resemble one on Sundays now. :thumbup:

I'm more excited now, than the year we drafted Wadsworth and company. Now it's up to Denny and the coaching staff to develope these players.
:cheers:

I totally agree.The thing i like best is that we on day 1 we got alot better athletically.Those guys are athletic players.Which is something the Cards needed.On day 2 we got tough,hard-nosed players that bring an attitude with them and will work hard to make the team.After last year's fiasco,this was alot more enjoyable seeing the Cards getting quality players in every round.
 
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Cbus cardsfan said:
I totally agree.The thing i like best is that we on day 1 we got alot better athletically.Those guys are athletic players.Which is something the Cards needed.On day 2 we got tough,hard-nosed players that bring an attitude with them and will work hard to make the team.After last year's fiasco,this was alot more enjoyable seeing the Cards getting quality players in every round.

Just imagine 2 more years of drafting like this, and we're in the playoffs continuously, dominating the division. I might be getting ahead of myself, I hope not! :D
 

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Just imagine 2 more years of drafting like this, and we're in the playoffs continuously, dominating the division. I might be getting ahead of myself, I hope not! :D
If we continue this way of drafting, we could get more playmakers on this team.
 
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If we continue this way of drafting, we could get more playmakers on this team.

That goes against everything this team has stood for the past 5 years.

Looks like we have changed. I'm flyin high right now, time to go out and get some sun after 2 days of TV. :thumbup:
 

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Nice post Savage. I could not be more elated about this draft and I agree the second round bought us some good players. I'll trust in Green ref the DE pick. I score the draft an A.
 

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We just got a taste of real drafting and I think we will all see in time that this is a team changing draft. More depth and more impact on both sides of the ball. Well said. :thumbup: b
 

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If the biggest complaint people have is the fifth round pick, well, that's pretty damn good.
 

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I dunno about an A+. I think for not addressing DB, the grade drops to around...B.
 

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It was a solid draft. You really can't properly evaluate a draft until three years later but I think we will see this as a turning point for the Cards. Denny will also make some moves after June 1st and during training camp. When he was Vikings coach he always picked up some veterans (that were re :thumbup: leased usually for cap reasons) before the season started when he saw that there were needs to be filled.
 

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Day 2

Day one I was of course ecstatic and most people said we did a decent job drafting.

Day two finds us questioning the picks and wondering where that NFL cornerback was.

Apparently he wasn't there in the eyes of DG and the scouts.

I like our 4th (check my avatar) and 6th picks. Step and Leckey were the heart and soul of their offensive lines. Offensive lines that won a National Championship and won a Big 8 title by beating teams like Oklahoma. Those 2 are dedicated mean motor scooters who can inspire an offensive line.

I'm optimistic that that they can help our team.
 

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Day one I was of course ecstatic and most people said we did a decent job drafting.

Day two finds us questioning the picks and wondering where that NFL cornerback was.

Apparently he wasn't there in the eyes of DG and the scouts.

I like our 4th (check my avatar) and 6th picks. Step and Leckey were the heart and soul of their offensive lines. Offensive lines that won a National Championship and won a Big 8 title by beating teams like Oklahoma. Those 2 are dedicated mean motor scooters who can inspire an offensive line.

I'm optimistic that that they can help our team.

Hey man did every eligible Ohio State Player get drafted? What did they have like 14 guys taken? Unreal.
 

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Hey man did every eligible Ohio State Player get drafted? What did they have like 14 guys taken? Unreal.

Guys that didn't even play like WR Drew Carter got drafted.

Backup QB Scotty McMullen is actually a better NFL QB than Krenzel who was drafted in round 5 by da Bears.

And yes Navarre is better than Krenzel....but McMullen is better than Navarre!!!
 

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It was a solid draft. You really can't properly evaluate a draft until three years later but I think we will see this as a turning point for the Cards.

I agree with you, on paper it looks like a solid draft but on paper Johnny Rutledge, Thomas Jones and Leeland McElroy looked like good picks to a lot of people. We'll see how everyone performs and then we can judge it.
 

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Savage58 said:
This draft deserves and A+

I disagree completely with a few posts saying how we dropped the ball on the 2nd day, and how some picks on the first day were unimpressive. Maybe people thought we were going after glamour players at glitzy positions only, I'm glad we didn't.


6th - Leckey - I absolutely loved this pick, oh we already drafted a center, he was the BPA imo. This guy plays NASTY MEAN, I mean Steve Wisniewski mean if you know what I'm talkin about. I don't think I'm being presumptious in saying he should challenge for a starting spot early. He's a drive blocker, and picks up blitzes well, I don't think he's as advanced as Step in his ability to make the line calls though. A starter in the 6th round, how can you complain.

7th - Navarre - Solid, another BPA candidate. He will make the team, Parsons is in trouble, and will have to play extremely well in camp to beat out King. I don't think Denny is willing to wait for him to develope, as he will with Navarre. He can make all the throws, he's calm in the pocket. He reminds me of Brady in that he's cool as ice when the pressure is on.


Rock solid draft Cardinals, thanks for finally looking like a REAL NFL team on draft day. It gives us hope to think we'll resemble one on Sundays now. :thumbup:

I couldn't agree more. The more I thought about it the night before the more Stepanovich came into mind as being the best pick. I really wasn't expecting him there either with that pick.

Leckey, I just loved the way he played. So much enthusiasm. I really liked him ALOT. He will contribute shortly.

And they got em both for dirt cheap! And the O line was paper thin depth wise.

They couldn't have gotten any corner better than Hill, Maklin or Rhinehart on day two, and they would have been a major project.

Excellent , Excellent choices. I'm stoked. :thumbup:
 

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Great Draft ! It was nice watching us take the BPA over need. I am a little sad we did not draft Strait or Poole in the fourth, however projection wise we got a lot of higher up picks. Now if we can just get Mckenzie from Green Bay !
 

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Great Draft ! It was nice watching us take the BPA over need. I am a little sad we did not draft Strait or Poole in the fourth, however projection wise we got a lot of higher up picks. Now if we can just get Mckenzie from Green Bay !

Strait went in the third to the Jets.
 

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day one- 3 first round players in the first 3 rounds.. nuff said

day two- not familiar with the DE, that's my only dissapointment. 2 guys who will add some attitude to our soft underachieving O-line. Plus a big, textbook NFL prototype QB in case McCown doesn't work out.

We did pretty gosh darn good.
 

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Strait went in the third to the Jets.

My bad ! I was hoping for Strait in the third followed by Poole in the fourth. Now that I look back at the draft and see our glaring weakness at CB I really don't mind at all. At first I believed we needed a good corner at the top of the second, however you have to realize that we are more than a year away from being good. I am hoping for a Marvin lewis type turn around !
 
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