The rich get richer...

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  1. ArizonaSportsFan

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    Colleges have about 10 percent black head coaches. High school is different of course, because predominantly black (area) high schools have 47% (?!) black head coaches and predominantly white high schools have 95% white head coaches, or something like that (quick google search). One could say that the coaching profession is racist, but it doesn't make sense then that predominantly black high schools have only 47% black head coaches. Who are the white people in these schools demanding that the coach be white? And the demographics of football and sports in general (other than "Olympic" sports?) is black. So it would seem that no one is really forcing a white coach on any team. In college you have the donors and what not which I would say are majority Caucasian, but do they care more about that than the quality of the coach?

    If college (FBS) is 10%, why would we expect the NFL to be much higher? Perhaps black men and women don't want to coach? Is there some coaching school that supplies coaches and only takes white applicants? Could be my rose-colored glasses, but it is hard to call something racist just by looking at numbers. I would love to know more about why/why not people get into coaching, because clearly the pool of qualified candidates does NOT match the demographic of the "sport population".
     
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    Uh oh. Methinks you just poked the "woke brigade" of ASFN. I won't know as I use the "ignore" feature for most.
     
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    Now quote the % of minority players in the NFL. See the problem?
     
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    I didn't want to hurt anyone feelings
    Was just a strong example how these hypocrasis doesn't help to fight the racism but does the opposite
     
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    Divergent opinions are not allowed. :devil::cheers:
     
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    that's becoming more and more obvious on this website
     
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    Look, this is about money and it comes down to money and perspective of the person with money which is the owner. The perspective of the white owners is not right (and that's putting it mildly) but forcing a change by using compensatory picks does not solve the problem because the ignorant ideology of the owners will stay the same but only causes more friction that two wrongs make a right
     
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    its the NFL -- they've proven time and time again that they will hire ANYBODY as long as you can play/win. There is zero racial divide in the sport
     
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    2 3rd round picks is such a huge competitive advantage though. It makes me wonder about the number of minorities even applying for these jobs. There are other explanations for demographic disparities besides bigotry.
     
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    10 - 9 - 8 .... off to the P & R dumpster
     
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  11. imaCafan

    imaCafan Next stop, Hall of Fame!

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    If you look at the quote it says RAMS get draft picks for LIONS signing Holmes. Why don’t the LIONS get the picks for signing him instead of RAMS?
     
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    Actually it shouldn't, since the NFL has become a political platform... eventually it will leave us with nothing to talk about lol
     
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    If you want to go off of demographics proper representation would be 8 black GM/Coaches. Anything over would be, using your logic in this situation, evidence of discrimination against other races. I know this is for a noble cause but racial quotas just feel weird and wrong. There's so many more factors at play. I don't like implying that every team that doesnt have a black headcoach is guilty of racial discrimination.
     
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    So . . take two third rounders from the Chargers?
     
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    Do they lose picks when they fire them.;)
     
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