The Positive Kyler Murray News Thread

[TheCardFan]

Like others have demonstrated, Murray was better at OU than Caleb Williams was last year at USC.

I didn't watch any USC games last year but the stats were pretty close.

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Baker Mayfield:

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Few things to think about:
- Kyler was techinically in his 4th year of college (Caleb was a true Sophomore)
- USC was horrific before Lincoln took over
- Oklahoma was dominating for a long time before/during Kyler
- Therefore I would think that the roster talent and first year system install hurt Caleb's production in comparison to Kyler.

Good news - we get to see what happens this year.

 

[Yuma]

The problem is how can the worst team in the league with a top 5 paid QB and a horrible roster win a championship?

I am rooting for Kyler but heavily tilted toward needing a complete re-build.

The rebuild began already with the draft moves we made this year. If you mean by getting a new QB, we have arguably two shots at that in the draft next year.

 

[PACardsFan]

Murray is more talented than Caleb Williams, but he has to play this year AND stay healthy. If Kyler comes back as early as it appears he might, the Cardinals record won’t be bad enough to secure Williams anyways. Hard to say what Houston will be like, but I personally don’t think they‘ll be in position either.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Hard to be successful when your QB is pitiful on down field throws and is below average completing passed between the numbers.

Keep this crap out of here. It is called the positive thread for a reason. Next time someone blatantly does this, they will take a break.

 

[Outerlimits]

I agree with PACardsFan that Kyler needing to stay healthy may be his biggest obstacle. Plus, his style of play seems to be far more reliant on needing to be close to 100% than some other QBs. Which isn't a good thing in the 2nd half of seasons as we have seen multiple times now.

His attitude coming into this year though seems far more positive, so I'm expecting he will do quite well if he stays healthy.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I didn't watch any USC games last year but the stats were pretty close.

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Baker Mayfield:

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Few things to think about:
- Kyler was techinically in his 4th year of college (Caleb was a true Sophomore)

His second season starting though.

- USC was horrific before Lincoln took over

Most CFB observers would argue USC was under producing based on recruiting classes

- Oklahoma was dominating for a long time before/during Kyler

Sure. Murray was better though.

- Therefore I would think that the roster talent and first year system install hurt Caleb's production in comparison to Kyler.

Caleb followed Riley to USC from Oklahoma. I think most would argue going to the PAC 12 helped Caleb's production not hurt it.

Good news - we get to see what happens this year.

Yep

 

[Krangodnzr]

Keep this crap out of here. It is called the positive thread for a reason. Next time someone blatantly does this, they will take a break.

My point is based on objective stats...and you clearly are ignoring the rest of what I've said in this thread which was positive.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

My point is based on objective stats...and you clearly are ignoring the rest of what I've said in this thread which was positive.

I quoted your entire post, which was all negative. Go to any other thread and post stuff like that.

 

[DaHilg]

I think a lot of these negative posts are funny.. what did you expect Kyler to do w Kliffy’s spectrum scheme ? With a cast off of Olineman that would relay on Keanu Reeves to work? With no true#1 for 10 weeks of the season…

- Stafford w out Megatron, how’d he look?
- Josh Allen before an Oline and Diggs.. how’d he look?
-Chargers gave up on Drew Brees.. how’d that turn out?
-how’d Mahomes look with all the weapons in the world and best offensive creative mind I history look w no Oline in the SuperBowl vs TB? (Mind you he lost his Oline on the way to the superbowl w his last 2 pieces getting injured for good in the afc championship)

Hurts looked great bc he had a great Oline, a healthy and bad@ass receiving core, ran through a CREATIVE NFL offensive scheme that kept the defense guessing. You really have to be on the spectrum if you think Hurts has any skill more talented than Kyler as a QB.. leadership? Ok I give you that.. but behind leadership is confidence. With no confidence, good luck having leadership in a league of the largest people on earth. Oh ya.. hurts had a top 3 defense behind all of that too

Grow up people have some sort of realistic expectations l… and grow up mod if you think this is offensive enough to ban. Adults can handle a conversation w out a threat to ban over trivial comments. No one is even using curse words here

 

[CardNots]

The truth is we don’t know what we have in Kyler. The only positive thing I can add is this year will be a defining moment for many players including Kyler. I’m excited to see what happens. Kyler is my QB until he isn’t…

 

[Stout]

I think a lot of these negative posts are funny.. what did you expect Kyler to do w Kliffy’s spectrum scheme ? With a cast off of Olineman that would relay on Keanu Reeves to work? With no true#1 for 10 weeks of the season…

- Stafford w out Megatron, how’d he look?
- Josh Allen before an Oline and Diggs.. how’d he look?
-Chargers gave up on Drew Brees.. how’d that turn out?
-how’d Mahomes look with all the weapons in the world and best offensive creative mind I history look w no Oline in the SuperBowl vs TB? (Mind you he lost his Oline on the way to the superbowl w his last 2 pieces getting injured for good in the afc championship)

Hurts looked great bc he had a great Oline, a healthy and bad@ass receiving core, ran through a CREATIVE NFL offensive scheme that kept the defense guessing. You really have to be on the spectrum if you think Hurts has any skill more talented than Kyler as a QB.. leadership? Ok I give you that.. but behind leadership is confidence. With no confidence, good luck having leadership in a league of the largest people on earth. Oh ya.. hurts had a top 3 defense behind all of that too

Grow up people have some sort of realistic expectations l… and grow up mod if you think this is offensive enough to ban. Adults can handle a conversation w out a threat to ban over trivial comments. No one is even using curse words here

Why are you started a fight--with a mod, no less--when no one really wants to fight?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Grow up people have some sort of realistic expectations l… and grow up mod if you think this is offensive enough to ban. Adults can handle a conversation w out a threat to ban over trivial comments. No one is even using curse words here

Someone is upset about the banning they earned? How cute.

 

[DVontel]

Hard to be successful when your QB is pitiful on down field throws and is below average completing passed between the numbers.

Letting dream correct this while you’re encouraging @Shane it lol c’mon man

 

[DaHilg]

Someone is upset about the banning they earned? How cute.

What’s cute is how people act when they don’t know how to handle a little bit of authority. We don’t need to continue this dialogue, let’s talk sports. Cheers!

 

[BritCard]

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I don't think anyone has ever had issue with Kyler's physical work effort. He's obviously always been a gym guy.

It's the other things that have been questioned.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I don't think anyone has ever had issue with Kyler's physical work effort. He's obviously always been a gym guy.

It's the other things that have been questioned.

I'm excited that it looks like he is figuring it out. Expectations will be lower, which might be a good thing.

 

[Chopper0080]

Keep this crap out of here. It is called the positive thread for a reason. Next time someone blatantly does this, they will take a break.

lol...This is the reason I am not posting in here.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

lol...This is the reason I am not posting in here.

LOL.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

What’s cute is how people act when they don’t know how to handle a little bit of authority. We don’t need to continue this dialogue, let’s talk sports. Cheers!

Oh the irony.

 

[daves]

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Weird, I wonder why "The world thinks [Murray] is a professional Call of Duty player?"

https://fazeclan.com/press/kyler-murray

 

[Garthshort]

In the Kyler/Williams comparison, and I don't know the answer, who played in the tougher Conference? Or are the Conferences about even? I do know that the SEC is considered the best.

 

[TheCardFan]

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[kerouac9]

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Hm. Might be my next FreeBet

 

[oaken1]

Hm. Might be my next FreeBet

Hell, at those odds it might be worth a C-note and a prayer

 

[kerouac9]

Hell, at those odds it might be worth a C-note and a prayer

Dunno. What would it take for Demar Hamlin not to win?