The Perfect Storm

Discussion in 'Arizona Cardinals' started by PACardsFan, May 26, 2019.

  1. Solar7

    Solar7 Also Skeptical

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    CW, you don't see the "Murray Mania" because it's been your stance all along, and you've been in victory formation for months. Like I've said, I can't blame you. I wish one of my favorite prospects from my school was drafted as the savior of my NFL franchise.

    I have more free time on my hands than Shane right now, and I want to post about realistic (and sadly, poor) expectations I have for the team without having someone assert that Kyler is "a unicorn," or that he's going to get 4500 passing yards with 40 TDs in his first season, two things I've read in the past 48 hours. Be excited, but we have people like PA who think we're just about to win it all because he's running out of time on the clock, and this is our last hope... like, reel it back people.

    Kyler's got tons of potential, tons of questions, and we should pray to the Flying Spaghetti Monster that Keim is even marginally right and doesn't lose his job going all in on a failed coach and historically scary QB.

    I could be insanely positive with a 2x head coach of the year, with a QB who had a rubber band holding his knee together, but it turned into nothing. What we're staring at now? I don't understand how any of you are so cavalier.
     
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    NO! No I don't. No matter how great a song is if I am hearing it played every hour for several months it gets on my freaking nerves!

    And I guess, there-in lies the difference. . .
     
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    I'm a Cardinals, Suns, Anaheim Ducks, and Angels fan... and I didn't pay attention enough to hockey when I was young to truly care about the Ducks win. So frustrating.
     
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  4. Stout

    Stout I gave my cards a victory...

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    Being optimistic is cool, and, though I'm not, I have no problem with it. But I couldn't stand listening to Unchained Melody, a really good song, when Ghost came out, because it was EVERYWHERE. And reading the "KM is God" posts is like listening to an airhead blab "Ohmygodthey'reSOhotSOcuteSOwhatever'scooltosaytodaythey'rejustthebestIcan'tevenifangelssangaunicornintoexistencethesoundwouldlooklikethem" 5 gazillion times over and over again.

    But also, re-read what you said. Be negative a few times, but be insanely annoying as much as you want. That's the essence I got out of it. These posts are like Mitch's old "We'll trade a half-eaten bag of Doritos for Peyton Manning" threads. No realism whatsoever. Pipe dreams. Pie in the sky. While some people might enjoy the read, it didn't mean the board would be made better by being choked with them.

    Optimism, and "I think KM is going to be good" posts/threads? Cool. But, Jesus, he's already in the HOF to some people. And I think the airhead listed above sounds more interesting than THAT.
     
  5. slanidrac16

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    Well said! This is the time to hope and dream of potential. It kills me that the Murray doubters continue to visit and post on the pro- Murray threads. If it aggravates you or ruins your day simply go to the next thread.
     
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    Solar, Solar, Solar. You quoted my post of 4500 yds and 40 tds.out of context. I posted those numbers to get a rise out of you because I KNEW you would respond even though you were complaining about the pro Murray post.

    After you responded I laughed out loud because I knew you couldn’t resist responding AGAIN and told you I didn’t believe those numbers.

    And here we are again. One of the biggest proponents of “ let’s talk about something else” yet you’ve responded to this thread 10 times and now have helped it grow to 4 pages.

    Lol, again.
     
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  7. PACardsFan

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    The "Perfect Storm" refers to the storm, not the ship. And unfortunately, for the ship & its occupants, the "storm" won. So, the 'Storm" is Murray/Cardinals and the ship is the rest of the NFL teams.
     
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    We just witnessed the absolute WORST season in Cardinal history. We followed that up by having what appears to be a great draft (we'll know more in 3 years). We have hired a young, innovative HC and drafted a QB that fits his system like a glove. We have added pieces on both sides of the ball & hired assistant coaches with vast NFL experience to help our college HC assimilate better into the NFL game. What is not to get excited about?? In all my 55+ years of watching this team, we have never had an offseason with this much promise. We all know how cursed this franchise has been over the years. And yes, there are no guarantees. But after picking 1st overall for the first time in like forever, this IS our time to dream about what might be. So what if the Cardinals didn't pick the guy you wanted them too. Not that months ago, I was clearly in the Bosa camp. Then the Cardinals hired KK, and KM announced for the draft. After much analysis (remember, I was always a pro 6'5" QB kind of guy), it became obvious this route could be special. Hell, if the Cardinals stuck with Rosen, I'd be looking for all the reasons that KK could turn him around. I certainly wouldn't be bashing the pro Murray guys that might be pissed that he was with another team instead of ours. You are just a fan. This is the path that our ownership has taken. Jump on board & enjoy the ride. If it doesn't pan out, the next train will come by soon enough.
     
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    I understand that I'm one of those big pro Murray guys, but suicide hotline??? All I want is to NEVER have to experience what we were forced to watch last year. I truly think Murray will be great. But, if for whatever reason being, it doesn't pan out, then I'll be on board with whatever direction ownership takes us next. We are only fans & I've been down this path for many, many years.
     
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    Well said. However the naysayers just refuse to allow us to look through the rose colored glasses and I don’t get it. What’s even more baffling is they don’t get the fact that they can type till their fingers are bleeding and it’s not going to change our minds.

    You know what ? The naysayers might be right. The odds are actually in their favor of being right. But you can bet if they are wrong they will be fighting for one of the better seats on the bandwagon.
     
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    I've been there too. I moved to Washington DC right out of college back when the Skins were winning SB's. With the Cardinals in the NFC East, I saw them play every year in Washington for what seemed like decades. There were so many 40 point beat downs, when we were lucky to manage a FG. Exactly why I'm excited to go the offensive route now.
     
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    Oh, believe me. If Murray doesn't prove to be the 2nd coming some people are going need to be talked down from the ledge.
     
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    Sometimes I wish I knew what it felt like to root for a dynasty but if you're not a fan of those teams, winning a title is more appreciated. Like, I can't imagine what it's like to be a Nationals fan or a fan of most teams in the NBA.
     
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    I’m excited about the Potential Murray has talent wise. But I’m not setting any major/unrealistic expectations. After the season we had last year I just want an exciting team again.
     
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    cardpa I'm all right

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    I am more of a realist. History if you pay attention to it, tells us that the KK/KM combination has a greater chance of failure than success. You would be hard pressed to find a story of success in the NFL where a team has both a rookie HC with a losing collegiate record and a one year wonder QB out of college that turned into immediate success not only in the short term but the long term.

    I also think that the pro Murray cheerleaders are overlooking the fact that NFL defenses are not college defenses and given time will figure out KK's air raid and shoot it down. From all the rhetoric I read by the pro Murray group, it seems like you expect the NFL defenses to just lay down and say OH NO! it's Kyler Murray and Kliff Kingsbury we give up.

    I appreciate your positivity, but I also think the pro Murray camp has it's head in the clouds wearing rose colored glasses about just how much immediate success these two guys will experience. You seem to lose sight of the fact that all the defenders playing in the NFL are quicker and faster than anything Murray has ever seen in college. He may have seen one or two but he has never gone up against an entire team of defenders who are quicker and faster and more experienced than anything he faced in college.

    I have been a Cardinal fan for 52 years and I have to admit this is the first time in all those years where I am just not feeling positive about the team. Maybe it's all this over hyped Murray is God like and will tear up the NFL by storm BS that has me not feeling it or maybe it's a defense mechanism not to get hyped up if this plan fails spectacularly.

    Now CW can respond and call me a douche and slanidrac16 can call me a Debbie downer but this is just where I am at right now.
     
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