Chaplin
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Does he though? How many years are you willing to wait before he “gets better”?
The Oso Ighodaro Thread.
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Yuma
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I am fine with him as a back up center. Either Williams or Man Man needs to step up as the starter. Really, we should be more worried about starting center position. I don't think we can keep going with Oso as a starter. Oso would be great as a PF, EXCEPT that's where you really really need a jumper and three point shot in this modern NBA. I remember the good old days when PF was the bruiser that rebounded and couldn't shoot. LOL. Now they have to be able to hit the three point shot, or else! LOL.
Chaplin
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All this is true, and individually, he has to add at least some sort of gravity to himself. He at the least has to be a little bit of a threat on offense to score.
Sadly he will never be a PF in today’s NBA.
hcsilla
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He already got better, further development is needed but not unlikely. Even at this point he is a decent backup C.
Oso has great court vision as a facilitator on offense and can spot clear paths to basket while filling out that role. He dunked a lot that way, but against recovering centers, he needs to get rid of his ugly forward-leaning push shots and develop a regular jump shots and/or flowter in the paint like Hartenstein perfected
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In the case of Oso I believe the scorn is more deserving for Ott and how he uses Oso. I have little issue with him as a backup but he's not a starter and should rarely see the floor in the 4th quarter unless his FT% improves to at least 65%+.
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Well, the plan wasn't for him to start, Williams couldn't stay healthy, Richards is terrible and Man man wasn't ready yet.
I get that but Ott played him way too much. He shouldn't have seen more than 20 minutes a game unless he was putting up big numbers. Hopefully his minutes are less next year or he's added something to his game.
It's not that different than Monty overusing Shamet. Oso seems to be a favorite of Ott's.
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I honestly don’t know what Ott was supposed to do, other than what he did.
Statistically it’s easier to argue Oso should have actually played more given the alternatives on the roster.
Yuma
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I think they should have played Man Man more. He would have garnered more rebounds with more minutes. I know it was G League, but he actively moves towards the rebound, seeking them out, where Williams and Oso sometimes seem like if it doesn't fall in their area, they make no effort to get to the ball. Sometimes, that's what the Suns need on defense. Just slow down those offensive rebounds. each guy has their plusses and minuses. It's clear we need more rebounding from the front court. This team rebound concept isn't working against the better teams. ALL our centers have to step it up. Even the bigger forwards like Rasheer and Dunn. You don't want your smaller guys leading the charge every night on the boards. Like Barkley always says, rebounding is an effort thing.
If Oso plays they better be running and gunning when he is in. Ware out the other team
Im fine with it last season but I don't want a repeat next year.
Chaplin
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To be clear, I really like Oso, and I think his personality is a great fit for this team. But at the end of the day we want to win games and not get swept in the playoffs. He's durable, he's smart, and he has good court vision, but the lack of ANY shot is not something we can count on for any meaningful minutes next season. That's just a fact.
We talk so much about gravity and how important it is. But I guess it's only important for Book and Jalen Green I guess.
At the end of the day, one of the top things I've wanted last summer and now this summer is for Oso to develop a shot. Even a midrange would be fine. My worry is he's being taught that it has to be 3's or bust. And that is never going to work. Shoot 1000 Free Throws a day and play around the world over and over and over again.
We talk so much about gravity and how important it is. But I guess it's only important for Book and Jalen Green I guess.
At the end of the day, one of the top things I've wanted last summer and now this summer is for Oso to develop a shot. Even a midrange would be fine. My worry is he's being taught that it has to be 3's or bust. And that is never going to work. Shoot 1000 Free Throws a day and play around the world over and over and over again.
Ouchie-Z-Clown
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More than 2? Dude came into the league as raw as could be. Do I have great expectations? No. Is he any kind of anchor on this team at present? Also no. He’s a limited very young player that showed some improvement year one to year two. Giving him a third (and who knows, a fourth) on very limited contract isn’t unreasonable.
Chaplin
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I don't give a crap about his contract. His contract ain't going to score 15 points and get 12 rebounds. He needs to get a shot. Period. He's not an NBA starting center if he doesn't.
Ouchie-Z-Clown
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He’s not an nba starting center even with a shot. He’s not big enough. Even with a shot he’s a serviceable role player. And his contract matters on a team with big contracts.
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I think he's a quality player. Not sure how much he can improve though.
Like I've said before, all he needs is a perfected Harkenstein floater. Well, that and much improved FT shooting.
And 10-15 pounds of muscle. He's never going to be a PF so we need to give up that notion. Toughening him up will help both him and us a good deal.
hcsilla
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Have you ever heard about the salary cap in the NBA and its implications?
Yuma
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I keep saying, even with an average shot, he' STILL a back up. That's not bad having a good back up center on a cheap salary. I would feel better if he rebounded more consistently even if he does fix his jumper. The lack of consistent rebounding is more of a concern to me.
Chaplin
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Do you really want to get into a "you're stupid" conversation?
hcsilla
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I did not say or think that you are stupid, I just thought what you wrote was stupid.
Chaplin
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LOL you keep telling yourself that. Just because you were sarcastic doesn't mean it was funny nor an insult.
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We agree Oso needs to develop some kind of shot away from the basket even if it's a hook shot.
Personally, I look at players like Ighodaro and Gillespie as rotation players, not starters. If they become more, that's icing on the cake.
