The Oso Ighodaro Thread.

[leclerc]

EJ was really hyping up Oso vs the Sterns.

 

[Mainstreet]

In an ideal world, Oso would develop a more consistent outside shot so he can sub in for his minutes as a stretch 4 / emergency 5 . Supposedly he worked on it a lot in the offseason, but a quick look at his shot chart in all 7 games reveals he's yet to take a single attempt outside the key. His BB IQ gives him a lot of upside, but a consistent jumper would make him a key player off the bench. I guess time will tell.

Some old school players made a living playing inside, but Oso can do so much more.

His defense, energy, ball handling skills may give him a chance to make a career for himself, especially if his rebounding improves.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Some old school players made a living playing inside, but Oso can do so much more.

His defense, energy, ball handling skills may give him a chance to make a career for himself, especially if his rebounding improves.

He is kinda in the Boris Diaw mold isn't he? Except its just one of the ugliest NBA strokes I have ever seen.

 

[Mainstreet]

He is kinda in the Boris Diaw mold isn't he? Except its just one of the ugliest NBA strokes I have ever seen.

Except, Diaw had a better looking outside shot. However, he often chose to pass rather than shoot.

Whereas, Oso's outside shot has such bad form, he is limited to shots near the basket.

 

[Hoop Head]

He needs to spend time in the G-League with instructions to take 4-5 jumpers outside 12 feet each game.

 

[Mainstreet]

He needs to spend time in the G-League with instructions to take 4-5 jumpers outside 12 feet each game.

Without changing Oso's shooting form, I doubt anything would change and it's probably too late for that.

 

[SirStefan32]

I am trying to think of someone who had no jumper and ended up developing a decent jumper, and outside of Jason Kidd, I cannot think of one.
I like Oso, but I like him as a situational third center. Without developing a decent jumper up to 16 feet, I can't see him being anything more than a third string center to be used in some very specific lineups, such as Oso and four guys who can really shoot and move the ball. Mind you- I am a fan of Oso, and I think getting a third-sting center in the late second round is pretty good, but I think we need to be realistic. If you can't shoot outside of five feet, unless you are a freak athlete, there just isn't much more you can be than a third-string center.

 

[Mainstreet]

I am trying to think of someone who had no jumper and ended up developing a decent jumper, and outside of Jason Kidd, I cannot think of one.
I like Oso, but I like him as a situational third center. Without developing a decent jumper up to 16 feet, I can't see him being anything more than a third string center to be used in some very specific lineups, such as Oso and four guys who can really shoot and move the ball. Mind you- I am a fan of Oso, and I think getting a third-sting center in the late second round is pretty good, but I think we need to be realistic. If you can't shoot outside of five feet, unless you are a freak athlete, there just isn't much more you can be than a third-string center.

There have been a lot of big men who have done well in the NBA who were poor outside shooters. I'm not comparing talent but look at players like Shaq, Ben Wallace, Dwight Howard and DeAndre Jordan.

There are a lot of lesser name players as well.

 

[SirStefan32]

There have been a lot of big men who have done well in the NBA who were poor outside shooters. I'm not comparing talent but look at players like Shaq, Ben Wallace, Dwight Howard and DeAndre Jordan.

There are a lot of lesser name players as well.

Yeah, but Shaq was a freak of nature- there has never been a player that strong in the NBA. Wallace was one of the best defenders (if not the best) in the NBA for a decade. Howard and Jordan were significantly bigger and more athletic than Oso. That's why I threw a qualifier in there- "Unless you are a freak athlete." I like Oso, but he is undersized, has at best slightly above average athleticism, and he can't shoot- that's too many cons to overcome if you are trying to be more than a situational third-string center. You can overcome one natural disadvantage, but when you have three of four of them, it's just too much to overcome.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah, but Shaq was a freak of nature- there has never been a player that strong in the NBA. Wallace was one of the best defenders (if not the best) in the NBA for a decade. Howard and Jordan were significantly bigger and more athletic than Oso. That's why I threw a qualifier in there- "Unless you are a freak athlete." I like Oso, but he is undersized, has at best slightly above average athleticism, and he can't shoot- that's too many cons to overcome if you are trying to be more than a situational third-string center. You can overcome one natural disadvantage, but when you have three of four of them, it's just too much to overcome.

I don't think anyone expected Oso Ighodaro to be more than a role player, perhaps a rotation player if he improves.

 

[SirStefan32]

I don't think anyone expected Oso Ighodaro to be more than a role player, perhaps a rotation player if he improves.

Oh I agree- Oso is great for being a late second round pick. I am happy with what they got in Oso. Third string center late in the draft is a great find.

 

[Hoop Head]

Marion had one of the ugliest shots in NBA history but averaged 20+ a night while drilling 3's. Oso's form isn't the death nail but if he has no confidence that could be.

 

[clyde2tw]

Oso ought to completely abandon his forward leaning push shots in the paint and develop regular form shots say fallaway jumpers, and shots through contacts. So, put him into G-league and practise regular shots.

 

[95pro]

Williams has saved our start to the season, we could have potentially been 5-2 by now. Starting Oso put our games in a deficit in the first quarters of games with too much to overcome. We are now trying to hide him at the 4 spot with him playing alongside Richards at center. Team have already started not to guard him but Ott has done a good job with ball movement and off ball screens to keep defenses from playing off Oso and doubling someone else. Oso makes a nice pass here and there but probably has more turnovers than assists right now. His shot is terrble, and his patented push shot isn't any better looking.

 

[Chaplin]

I certainly didn’t have “we lose because of Oso” on my bingo card.

 

[Mainstreet]

Williams has saved our start to the season, we could have potentially been 5-2 by now. Starting Oso put our games in a deficit in the first quarters of games with too much to overcome. We are now trying to hide him at the 4 spot with him playing alongside Richards at center. Team have already started not to guard him but Ott has done a good job with ball movement and off ball screens to keep defenses from playing off Oso and doubling someone else. Oso makes a nice pass here and there but probably has more turnovers than assists right now. His shot is terrble, and his patented push shot isn't any better looking.

How I see it, Oso epitomizes how the Suns want to play. This is why he gets playing time.

His shot may never look pretty, but he will maximize his ability. I think he will always get minutes because of his other skills and effort.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I have not been a fan of Oso to this point, but I see why he is getting minutes. He is willing to dunk the ball when he is close. He works hard on defense. He has a decent floater and knows how to maximize it when he has the space. He has added a little hook shot. Most of all, he passes really well, which keeps the offense moving and gets the ball to shooters and cutters where they can score. This team has to play as a team on offense. There is no room for ISO ball except from time to time with Booker. Oso helps make that happen.

 

[95pro]

How I see it, Oso epitomizes how the Suns want to play. This is why he gets playing time.

His shot may never look pretty, but he will maximize his ability. I think he will always get minutes because of his other skills and effort.

We are short on nba ready 4's atm, so he's filling a need right now for 12-15 minutes a game.

I have not been a fan of Oso to this point, but I see why he is getting minutes. He is willing to dunk the ball when he is close. He works hard on defense. He has a decent floater and knows how to maximize it when he has the space. He has added a little hook shot. Most of all, he passes really well, which keeps the offense moving and gets the ball to shooters and cutters where they can score. This team has to play as a team on offense. There is no room for ISO ball except from time to time with Booker. Oso helps make that happen.

Went from Iso ball to Oso ball LOL

He's added some mass but he still gets moved a lot by every other center out there. If he can stay with at that 4 spot with Richards at center for 10-15 minutes a game I am ok with that. Him as small ball center, no thanks. He isn't drawing any fouls except for that one game and he turns it over more than assists, but he does have some skills to actually bring the ball up and initiate some of the offense from time to time. He knows to stay on the court he has to be diving and doing the dirty work.

 

[Hoop Head]

I can't say I'm upset Oso is this year's whipping boy. Any Oso fans should get used to him being trashed. I like the guy but he's not an NBA player.

 

[95pro]

After last nights win against the Clippers, phnx is pretty much done with Oso too.

 

[Covert Rain]

I certainly didn’t have “we lose because of Oso” on my bingo card.

I don't think that but he is a negative most of the time I see him on the court or at a minimum doesn't really contribute much. I think he needs a full time G-League stint to see if he can develop IMO. I don't think him getting spot up minutes is going to do much for him.