The Grayson Allen thread
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From Kellan Olsen Sep 12, 2025:
"Allen's also one of the best shooters in the NBA. Allen is shooting 44.5% from 3 as a Sun on 5.7 attempts per game, and among the 140 players to take at least 500 3s over that time, Allen’s percentage is the best in basketball by almost a full 2%, per Stathead. That’s worth almost all of his contract alone."
"Allen's also one of the best shooters in the NBA. Allen is shooting 44.5% from 3 as a Sun on 5.7 attempts per game, and among the 140 players to take at least 500 3s over that time, Allen’s percentage is the best in basketball by almost a full 2%, per Stathead. That’s worth almost all of his contract alone."
newBluePlanet
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i haven't analyzed it statistically, but my impression is that Allen is a key component of what makes the Suns go when they're going good.
i think their balance has been off lately without him. Perhaps because he does a little bit of everything and is a smart player. He puts the effort in defensively, can drive and create his own shot, is dependable in the clutch, and as a 3pt threat, defenses can never cheat off of him.
the guy who replaces him on the court doesn't have his combination of skills
i think their balance has been off lately without him. Perhaps because he does a little bit of everything and is a smart player. He puts the effort in defensively, can drive and create his own shot, is dependable in the clutch, and as a 3pt threat, defenses can never cheat off of him.
the guy who replaces him on the court doesn't have his combination of skills
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I was wrong about him.
He's been great.
He was an easily frustrated cheap shot artist as a younger player but he's grown out of it.
He and Booker are the only on ball guys the opposition seems to respect. If neither are on the court our offense is a train wreck.
He's a very clever player, he's unselfish... I wish he was more durable, but he is somehow the best asset to come out of that Ayton/Lillard/Holliday/Nurkic trade.
Well... outside of Camara.
He's been great.
He was an easily frustrated cheap shot artist as a younger player but he's grown out of it.
He and Booker are the only on ball guys the opposition seems to respect. If neither are on the court our offense is a train wreck.
He's a very clever player, he's unselfish... I wish he was more durable, but he is somehow the best asset to come out of that Ayton/Lillard/Holliday/Nurkic trade.
Well... outside of Camara.
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Considering how much that boy gets knocked around every game, I'd say he's plenty durable.
Good point. He does seem to have grown out of his earlier anger management issues. Becoming a father helped, I'm sure.
Suns_fan69
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He's the only player other than Book who can consistently get downhill to make plays for others. Green should be that in theory, but in practice he's been pretty poor at it so far. Hopefully it's just getting more comfortable post injury.
newBluePlanet
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i haven't checked the stats on Allen, but i believe he's one of those players whose stats don't tell the story
and imo, the story is this...
aside from the influence Brooks has had on this team
Allen is the key
imo, it's no coincidence that the team''s persona reappeared only when he was back from his injury.
he's clutch, smart, and leads with a full set of offensive skills. He hasn't got the agility to be a lock-down one-on-one -defender, but even with Brooks out, Allen's hustle and team defense gels with Gillespi, Royce, Willians-or-Oso
imo, it's also no coincidence that, last night, the Suns were up 20 in the 4th and it went down to 9 when he had to sit. Booker and Green held the ball and passed it between themselves like Booker and Durant
that's the situation i worried about
with Booker and Green in, the guy who's best all around closing asset has to sit
and what about when Brooks is back?
i'd want Brooks, Allen, Gillespi, Royce and Willians-or-Oso closing out games
Booker would be useful for drawing doubles and dishing and Green is the fastest slasher when we need a 2. If ego management wasn't a problem, i'd rotate them in and out as needed.
and imo, the story is this...
aside from the influence Brooks has had on this team
Allen is the key
imo, it's no coincidence that the team''s persona reappeared only when he was back from his injury.
he's clutch, smart, and leads with a full set of offensive skills. He hasn't got the agility to be a lock-down one-on-one -defender, but even with Brooks out, Allen's hustle and team defense gels with Gillespi, Royce, Willians-or-Oso
imo, it's also no coincidence that, last night, the Suns were up 20 in the 4th and it went down to 9 when he had to sit. Booker and Green held the ball and passed it between themselves like Booker and Durant
that's the situation i worried about
with Booker and Green in, the guy who's best all around closing asset has to sit
and what about when Brooks is back?
i'd want Brooks, Allen, Gillespi, Royce and Willians-or-Oso closing out games
Booker would be useful for drawing doubles and dishing and Green is the fastest slasher when we need a 2. If ego management wasn't a problem, i'd rotate them in and out as needed.
