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  1. Phrazbit

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    Time for a new thread.

    First up, Carmelo Anthony and a 2022 protected first round pick (the double down draft) has been traded to Atlanta, who will waive him. OKC receives Mike Muscala and Dennis Schroeder.

    Sam Presti is a bad GM. That trade is awful. They just swapped one of the worst one year contracts and a 1st round pick for one of the worst long term contracts in the NBA. Dennis Schroeder is the 2013 Michael Beasley of point guards, an abomination on both sides of the ball and he's making 15 mil a year. This isn't them getting "something" for Carmelo, Schroeder is a hugely negative asset. As evidenced by Atlanta taking on 30 million in money that they're going to set ablaze just to be rid of him.

    Carmelo is expected to sign in Houston, a place where is play style couldn't be more opposite of the system. I expect this to end very poorly.

    Edit: It's a 3 way trade. Instead of Mike Muscala, a serviceable reserve big, the Thunder are getting the last guy on the Sixers bench.
     
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    He's such a friggin turd. Dude accepts his player option while disliking his role and wanting to join a superteam.
     
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    He would be an absolute idiot to turn down that player option. That's just business.
     
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    Screwed over a western conference rival. Works for me. Its not like any kids were left homeless.
     
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    I know, because he's sunk so low. But I don't know that I've seen a player basically go "I want out!", while accepting their option year.
     
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    My guess is Sam Presti is still trying to ride a huge wave for all it's worth before he wipes out.
     
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    Dwight did that in Orlando, threatened he was leaving if he wasn't traded and then when the Magic kept him he opted into his contract and said he wanted to stay. The Magic traded him to LA and he was upset because he thought he would be staying in Orlando.

    Melo is a turd though. No class whatsoever to do what he did this offseason. I know it's a lot of money but this is one of the reasons he won't be remembered fondly when he's done.
     
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    It's not just "a lot of money". It's the difference between probably 2.7 million dollars and 28 MILLION DOLLARS. To call him a turd for deciding against willingly taking a 1000% cut in pay is ridiculous. He got to a position where he could negotiate that contract and did. It's not his fault the Knicks were stupid enough to sign him to it and OKC was stupid enough to trade for it.

    I swear, sometimes I think you guys think this is just monopoly money being thrown around. No one in their damn right mind would take a 26 million dollar pay cut... just to be nice. Calling him a turd for getting all he can to take care of GENERATIONS of his family is the only thing lacking class here.
     
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    Well I would but that's just because all my extra money goes to the International Society for Krishna Consciousness and the Unicorn Preservation Gathering. And yeah, in this regard, Melo is guilty only of playing the system. Something every one of us would do in the same situation IMO.
     
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    I'm saying he's a turd for taking the money and then whining about his role and wanting out. Take the giant pile of money and try to help your team.
     
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    Not a single guy on this board would turn down that kind of money. I know I wouldnt. These teams don't love these guys. Let Lebron get hurt and watch how fast people turn on him. Good for Carmelo

    I actually like this trade for OKC. DS is what he is and that is not a star PG who can carry a franchise and that's what Atlanta tried to make him. He's going to provide a good spark off the bench for them
     
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    Money isn't everything. For a player to openly talk about being unhappy with their team and having the option to leave but choosing not to shows he cares about money more than anything else. That's fine, if he wasn't trying to act like he was forced into staying in OKC. He's trying to have his cake and eat it too. He doesn't like how OKC used him and doesn't want to play the role his coach asked but he still wants their paychecks while he's free to go wherever he wants. He had his choice and he chose the money. Once he did that he should have stopped badmouthing the team but instead he demanded a trade to a preferred destination, which won't trade for him because of his ridiculous contract.

    All of that left OKC is a tough spot. They could have waived him and ate his salary or tried getting something in return for him from a team that was willing to eat his salary because he would not have signed off on a trade to a team like Atlanta unless they already agreed to waive him. If OKC elected to keep him he'd be a dark cloud hanging over their team all season, or until they met his demands. Yes, he gamed the system but it being legal doesn't mean that his actions and attitude are above reproach.
     
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    you can put lipstick on a turd, or pay it 28 million, but it's still a turd.
    in my mind, Melo has always been a turd that foolish teams have stepped in.
    the Thunder are the latest to wipe him off their shoe
     
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    IMO, Schroder is simply a bad NBA player. In a more limited role he will have less of a chance to screw his own team's success, but still, more often than not he is going to be a damaging presence on both ends of the court.
     

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