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Yes, using altitude training masks occasionally for three weeks (haven't seen them once on Hard Knocks but still) is exactly the same as actually being at altitude 24 hours a day.

The exact same.

To be clear I'm not saying that's why we lost, they were just much better than us. But when the entire narrative right now is the QB doesn't prepare himself it's hard not to ask if maybe that should extend to the coaching staff deciding NOT to try and acclimate the team to the altitude?

Seems like that's a lack of preparation too.
 

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local Bay area media already talking about how the 49ers offensive line said the Cards defense was exhausted in the 2nd half and they weren't and assumed it was related to the altitude. So now I guess we get a week of speculation did the Cards get boatraced in part because they decided NOT to try and acclimate to the altitude?



How do the 49ers feel about the altitude now? Do they feel like the trip to Colorado has helped?

"Yesterday, we kind of felt it a lot because we was able to get a lot out of practice," wide receiver Deebo Samuel said. "But today, we felt it a little bit with one full-speed period. But I feel like we'll be ready to go."

Shanahan, who hasn't had to endure going through any practices himself, is not immune to the altitude's impact. He admitted that he was " a little out of breath" just climbing the stairs after Saturday's practice to meet with reporters.

"We were at Denver a little bit over a month ago, and you can feel the altitude there, but being at Air Force, it's two thousand feet higher, and it's a big difference," Shanahan said. "... We had our biggest practice on [Friday], and that's where they really felt it. [Thursday] was not quite as much, and today was not quite as much. But [Friday], they really felt it then, and that was the first time they were like, 'Oh, this is pretty real.'"
Well, Keim and Kingsbury said they "did their research" and it would take two weeks to acclimate. As a hiker, that is BS - 1-3 days will give you a huge amount of acclimation.

They had a place to go, two hours north. They failed to do so.

Major oversight
 

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Well, Keim and Kingsbury said they "did their research" and it would take two weeks to acclimate. As a hiker, that is BS - 1-3 days will give you a huge amount of acclimation.

They had a place to go, two hours north. They failed to do so.

Major oversight
Apparently Keim put as much effort into his altitude research as he does his draft research.
 

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Have you ever wondered how Keim and Kliffy first got connected? Perhaps that story has already been written, but I don't recall seeing it. I believe it likely went down like this:

Keim is in search of the next Head Coach... Kliffy, after being jettisoned by the perennial juggernaut that is Texas Tech, has just agreed to be the OC at USC, but, the AZ Cards are looking for a new head coach. Kliffy's agent calls Kliffy and says, "Hey bro, the trend in the NFL is to go young! Look at McVay! You can do this bro!" Kliffy of course agrees...I mean, just look at what he did at Texas Tech! Why wouldn't he see himself as NFL Head Coach material!

Agent contacts Keim...And, with all his hubris, over-blown ego and narcissism fully at play, Keim, believing he was gifted with the next young brilliant mind, jumps all over Kliffy. Never stopping to perform proper diligence... Totally looks away from the multitude of flaws found in Kliffy...a guy who, unlike McVay, had never coached at any level in the NFL. But the brilliance of Keim knew better! Steve Keim can see things in people most mere mortals can't.

After a highly suspect and questionable first 3 years of Kliffy's NFL coaching career, he gets extended! And for that, I simply have no answers...other than to say Thank You AZ Cards for extending Kliffy, as that single act is what forced me to cough-up my season tickets, sparing me from the pain & agony of witnessing this mess in person!
 

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Have you ever wondered how Keim and Kliffy first got connected? Perhaps that story has already been written, but I don't recall seeing it. I believe it likely went down like this:

Keim is in search of the next Head Coach... Kliffy, after being jettisoned by the perennial juggernaut that is Texas Tech, has just agreed to be the OC at USC, but, the AZ Cards are looking for a new head coach. Kliffy's agent calls Kliffy and says, "Hey bro, the trend in the NFL is to go young! Look at McVay! You can do this bro!" Kliffy of course agrees...I mean, just look at what he did at Texas Tech! Why wouldn't he see himself as NFL Head Coach material!

Agent contacts Keim...And, with all his hubris, over-blown ego and narcissism fully at play, Keim, believing he was gifted with the next young brilliant mind, jumps all over Kliffy. Never stopping to perform proper diligence... Totally looks away from the multitude of flaws found in Kliffy...a guy who, unlike McVay, had never coached at any level in the NFL. But the brilliance of Keim knew better! Steve Keim can see things in people most mere mortals can't.

After a highly suspect and questionable first 3 years of Kliffy's NFL coaching career, he gets extended! And for that, I simply have no answers...other than to say Thank You AZ Cards for extending Kliffy, as that single act is what forced me to cough-up my season tickets, sparing me from the pain & agony of witnessing this mess in person!
Don't forget the part where Kliff was a consultant for McVay and that McVay actually wanted hire him permanently, but Kliff chose USC. The media took the hiring to be part of the, If he's good enough for McVay he's good enough for the NFL, narrative.
 

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No doubt they both waxed poetically about the upcoming gridiron conquests over a bottle of whatever was within Keim's reach.
 

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Have you ever wondered how Keim and Kliffy first got connected? Perhaps that story has already been written, but I don't recall seeing it. I believe it likely went down like this:

Keim is in search of the next Head Coach... Kliffy, after being jettisoned by the perennial juggernaut that is Texas Tech, has just agreed to be the OC at USC, but, the AZ Cards are looking for a new head coach. Kliffy's agent calls Kliffy and says, "Hey bro, the trend in the NFL is to go young! Look at McVay! You can do this bro!" Kliffy of course agrees...I mean, just look at what he did at Texas Tech! Why wouldn't he see himself as NFL Head Coach material!

Agent contacts Keim...And, with all his hubris, over-blown ego and narcissism fully at play, Keim, believing he was gifted with the next young brilliant mind, jumps all over Kliffy. Never stopping to perform proper diligence... Totally looks away from the multitude of flaws found in Kliffy...a guy who, unlike McVay, had never coached at any level in the NFL. But the brilliance of Keim knew better! Steve Keim can see things in people most mere mortals can't.

After a highly suspect and questionable first 3 years of Kliffy's NFL coaching career, he gets extended! And for that, I simply have no answers...other than to say Thank You AZ Cards for extending Kliffy, as that single act is what forced me to cough-up my season tickets, sparing me from the pain & agony of witnessing this mess in person!

Keim was on Instagram checking out hot models and in this one pic she was standing next to Kliff and Keim said "I gotta hire that guy."
 

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Well, Keim and Kingsbury said they "did their research" and it would take two weeks to acclimate. As a hiker, that is BS - 1-3 days will give you a huge amount of acclimation.

They had a place to go, two hours north. They failed to do so.

Major oversight
Even if it was two weeks . . . THEN DO TWO WEEKS JACKWADS!
 

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Well, Keim and Kingsbury said they "did their research" and it would take two weeks to acclimate. As a hiker, that is BS - 1-3 days will give you a huge amount of acclimation.

They had a place to go, two hours north. They failed to do so.

Major oversight
I can picture these two morons browsing Reddit or something for elevation acclimation techniques. Joke of an organization.
 

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I can picture these two morons browsing Reddit or something for elevation acclimation techniques. Joke of an organization.
Speaking of the organization. Nick Bosa:

Nick Bosa shined the spotlight on 49ers owner John York for green-lighting the 49ers’ next-level preparations heading into the Cardinals tilt that was held in Mexico City. San Francisco trained in Colorado at altitude to simulate conditions in Estadio Azteca, which stands at more than seven thousand feet above sea level, via David Brandt of AP:

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“(Owner) John York got the game ball,” Niners defensive end Joey Bosa said. “For him to put us in that situation and spend the money you have to spend to do something like that is why the Niners are a winning franchise.”

Although subtle, agreeing to such a move on the off chance that it helps impact the 49ers positively shows just how committed the franchise and its owner are to trying to win. Bosa attested to needing that extra level of preparation given the “brutal” conditions they faced.

“It was brutal,” Nick Bosa added. “Three full-speed reps and you’re hurting. It does get better throughout the game and I think we did a good job sticking with it.”

The Cardinals didn’t proceed with any extra measures for their training, as they ultimately decided to stay in Arizona ahead of the matchup. While it’s probably not the biggest reason behind the lopsided result, Nick Bosa believes it at least played a part in the 49ers’ victory.
 

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Speaking of the organization. Nick Bosa:

Nick Bosa shined the spotlight on 49ers owner John York for green-lighting the 49ers’ next-level preparations heading into the Cardinals tilt that was held in Mexico City. San Francisco trained in Colorado at altitude to simulate conditions in Estadio Azteca, which stands at more than seven thousand feet above sea level, via David Brandt of AP:

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“(Owner) John York got the game ball,” Niners defensive end Joey Bosa said. “For him to put us in that situation and spend the money you have to spend to do something like that is why the Niners are a winning franchise.”

Although subtle, agreeing to such a move on the off chance that it helps impact the 49ers positively shows just how committed the franchise and its owner are to trying to win. Bosa attested to needing that extra level of preparation given the “brutal” conditions they faced.

“It was brutal,” Nick Bosa added. “Three full-speed reps and you’re hurting. It does get better throughout the game and I think we did a good job sticking with it.”

The Cardinals didn’t proceed with any extra measures for their training, as they ultimately decided to stay in Arizona ahead of the matchup. While it’s probably not the biggest reason behind the lopsided result, Nick Bosa believes it at least played a part in the 49ers’ victory.
Wait I thought we had masks.
 

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