Texas Tech QB Brendan Sorsby in gambling rehab.

[GatorAZ]

You're 100% correct.
It's not a disease at all. It's a choice. And that's alcoholism and gambling.

Disease is becoming more of a broad term. I’ve heard of video game addictions ruining people’s lives. Gears of War or Madden isn’t exactly Type 1 diabetes or multiple sclerosis from my point of view.

 

[ajcardfan]

Disease is becoming more of a broad term. I’ve heard of video game addictions ruining people’s lives. Gears of War or Madden isn’t exactly Type 1 diabetes or multiple sclerosis from my point of view.

Disease is simply defined as physical or mental deviation from normal physiological function. While, yes, gaming, gambling or cell phone addiction isn't type 1 diabetes, brain scans of people with those issues are not normal. In fact, their brains are functioning almost exactly like the brains of chemical addicts.

 

[some dumb guy]

You guys aren't that naive are you? A disease is a general term used from anything from the common cold to any addiction. Yes, drinking or gambling is a choice but unfortunately most people think of having a drink at the end of the day is ok. And, generally it is...and then it's two drinks...and then it's a more. Over time your body and brain expect it. Have you never heard of withdrawals? A coworker of mine decided she was going to quit cold turkey....3 days later she had a seizer and died. Her body was producing chemicals to counteract the booze. But with no booze to counteract...she died.
Gambling is also a choice....but eventually your brain needs it...you don't just go to the doctor for a shot. But I guess some brains are different than others

 

[GatorAZ]

Disease is simply defined as physical or mental deviation from normal physiological function. While, yes, gaming, gambling or cell phone addiction isn't type 1 diabetes, brain scans of people with those issues are not normal. In fact, their brains are functioning almost exactly like the brains of chemical addicts.

Agreed. Too broad of a term.

 

[Stout]

You're 100% correct.
It's not a disease at all. It's a choice. And that's alcoholism and gambling.

You grossly mischaracterized my post. It IS a disease. It is not a disease of choice. You don't choose it. You have to make a choice to end it, but you don't choose it.

 

[Stout]

I'm done with this.
Sorry about your father.

We just have different opinions.

Yes. And yours is wrong. Or you know more than the collective experts in the field. Hmm...

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

You grossly mischaracterized my post. It IS a disease. It is not a disease of choice. You don't choose it. You have to make a choice to end it, but you don't choose it.

But, as you said you can make choice to not do it.

You can't make a choice to not have leukemia.

I guess I just differ, that if it's a choice you can't make to not do it, it's not a disease. It's a condition.

 

[some dumb guy]

But, as you said you can make choice to not do it.

You can't make a choice to not have leukemia.

I guess I just differ, that if it's a choice you can't make to not do it, it's not a disease. It's a condition.

In a PERFECT WORLD, yes. But imagine growing up without a mother or father. Being abused by a mother or father. Being bullied at school just to name a few. You turn to alcohol or drugs as a way to cope...to tolerate life. Depending how far that goes you end up addicted to that way of life. It's not something you catch like the flu. It affects your brain. Do you think the unhoused want to live on the street? Stuff happens in life that can really force you into depression. Some people are more fortunate than others...
and on a slightly lighter note, some teams are more fortunate than others...If ya know what I mean

 

[Cardiac]

You're 100% correct.
It's not a disease at all. It's a choice. And that's alcoholism and gambling.

Maybe the most ignorant post ever.

 

[Stout]

But, as you said you can make choice to not do it.

You can't make a choice to not have leukemia.

I guess I just differ, that if it's a choice you can't make to not do it, it's not a disease. It's a condition.

No, I did not say the cure was just to make a choice not to do it. You have to make a choice to get better.

That's one disease. Are you saying choice doesn't come into getting better from diabetes? That's another disease--not one of choice, but one where choice makes a difference. If I choose to eat well, exercise, and take my meds, I'll still have diabetes but can possibly be symptom free. If I choose to get help, go to therapy, maybe receive medications to work on the underlying symptoms, and no longer lay bets, as a betting addict, I wouldn't be cured. I would still have it, and wouldn't have chosen to become a betting addict, but I might become symptom free.

Also, as a therapist, I should say someone with a betting decision rather than a betting addict. Stigmatizing language matters.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Warren Buffet calls sports gambling a "Tax on Stupidity"

 

[Adrian]

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[outcent13]

Making aggressive moves doesn’t seem to be in Montys DNA. Is it worth a 2nd or 3rd round pick in next years draft? Maybe. Getting a potential top 10 pick for a 2nd or 3rd would be a savvy move if it worked out. I just don’t see Monty doing it.

 

[oaken1]

Making aggressive moves doesn’t seem to be in Montys DNA. Is it worth a 2nd or 3rd round pick in next years draft? Maybe. Getting a potential top 10 pick for a 2nd or 3rd would be a savvy move if it worked out. I just don’t see Monty doing it.

agree... dude has good size... and he is a legit dual threat.
Getting Sorsby would free up next years first to get an elite player at another position...pass rusher,..or OT,...or even corner if aalllllll of our young guys fail to develop.
corner wouldnt be bad actually... Sub Zero is a badass... get another, and we have a badass tandem of corners...but we also still have a badass on the field if those injuries keep happening
I would toss in a third into the supplemental just to see if we get him...I think the jets are the only ones ahead of us...read an article they may be too risk averse to take on his gambling drama...
rolling into the season with Sorsby and Beck would have us looking bright at the position for the next couple seasons.

 

[Chopper0080]

agree... dude has good size... and he is a legit dual threat.
Getting Sorsby would free up next years first to get an elite player at another position...pass rusher,..or OT,...or even corner if aalllllll of our young guys fail to develop.
corner wouldnt be bad actually... Sub Zero is a badass... get another, and we have a badass tandem of corners...but we also still have a badass on the field if those injuries keep happening
I would toss in a third into the supplemental just to see if we get him...I think the jets are the only ones ahead of us...read an article they may be too risk averse to take on his gambling drama...
rolling into the season with Sorsby and Beck would have us looking bright at the position for the next couple seasons.

Sorsby was going back to school because he needed work. If he was considered a top guy this year in a reported weak class, he would have declared. I wouldn’t be mad putting out a 3rd but there is a lot of risk.

 

[oaken1]

Sorsby was going back to school because he needed work. If he was considered a top guy this year in a reported weak class, he would have declared. I wouldn’t be mad putting out a 3rd but there is a lot of risk.

There is...of course they have to put in the work.
But there was speculation he would improve enough to be a first round pick next year.
If the redbirds see him on that trajectory,...then getting him now for a third is a steal.
sure would free us up for next years draft though.

 

[daves]

OK, it's been almost a month... Would a mod please correct the spelling in the thread title? Brendan. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

 

[Phrazbit]

OK, it's been almost a month... Would a mod please correct the spelling in the thread title? Brendan. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

lol, I am a famously bad speller.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I can see the Lions taking a chance on him. A team with an established QB would be ideal for him.

 

[Gandhi]

Sorsby was going back to school because he needed work. If he was considered a top guy this year in a reported weak class, he would have declared.

Off the top of my head, Matt Stafford, Andrew Luck and Trevor Lawrence were universally considered #1 overall pick basically from when they were in high school, yet the first year they were draft eligible they chose to go back to school anyway. Matt Leinart, Jake Locker, Sam Bradford, Justin Herbert, Marcus Mariota. There are tons of examples of players turning down the draft even though they are widely expected to be very high picks. Add to the equation that Sorsby had five million reasons to stay in college.

He certainly needs work in some areas, but it is a mistake to think that his projected draft slot must have convinced him to go back to college. He would likely have been drafted somewhere in the first round.

Also, I think you need to consider him with a day two-pick, if you are Ossenfort. Beck is surely the better scheme fit, but Sorsby has much more potential (and it’s not like he’s a bad fit). With all the “if’s” taking into consideration, Sorsby probably gives Ossenfort a better chance to save his job than Beck.

 

[Harry]

He’s far less polished than Beck. He’s likely a better athlete and more mobile and perhaps better arm strength. I’m not sure any team can develop 2 QBs simultaneously. I’m not sure either is eventually a starter, but Beck is closer. If the Cards end up with a high draft pick next year, there will be better options.

 

[mel typer]

Ok to all the medical geniuses here I'll just tell you how it is

Gambling a disease? I've never heard of anyone dying because of gambling. Alcoholism yes a disease but for people with no self control. Excuse me while I get addicted to heroin so everyone can throw a pity party for me

 

[Chopper0080]

Off the top of my head, Matt Stafford, Andrew Luck and Trevor Lawrence were universally considered #1 overall pick basically from when they were in high school, yet the first year they were draft eligible they chose to go back to school anyway. Matt Leinart, Jake Locker, Sam Bradford, Justin Herbert, Marcus Mariota. There are tons of examples of players turning down the draft even though they are widely expected to be very high picks. Add to the equation that Sorsby had five million reasons to stay in college.

He certainly needs work in some areas, but it is a mistake to think that his projected draft slot must have convinced him to go back to college. He would likely have been drafted somewhere in the first round.

Also, I think you need to consider him with a day two-pick, if you are Ossenfort. Beck is surely the better scheme fit, but Sorsby has much more potential (and it’s not like he’s a bad fit). With all the “if’s” taking into consideration, Sorsby probably gives Ossenfort a better chance to save his job than Beck.

Stafford, Luck and Lawrence declared after three years in college. This will be Sorsby’s 5th year. In fact, of the players you listed, only Locker and Herbert stayed 4 seasons. Sorsby was draft eligible in 2025 draft, passed, then again passed on the 2026 draft. I disagree that his situation mirrors the players you mentioned.

Also, as the NFL shows, it isn’t really an ideal teaching league, and as Harry said, I don’t know how developing two QBs works.

 

[some dumb guy]

Ok to all the medical geniuses here I'll just tell you how it is

Gambling a disease? I've never heard of anyone dying because of gambling. Alcoholism yes a disease but for people with no self control. Excuse me while I get addicted to heroin so everyone can throw a pity party for me

Apparently, you have not watched Casino or Goodfellas...

 

[Gandhi]

Stafford, Luck and Lawrence declared after three years in college. This will be Sorsby’s 5th year. In fact, of the players you listed, only Locker and Herbert stayed 4 seasons. Sorsby was draft eligible in 2025 draft, passed, then again passed on the 2026 draft. I disagree that his situation mirrors the players you mentioned.

Yes, I don't think it is comparable at all. You specifically wrote that he would he would have declared if he thought he would be a high first-round pick, though, so I just explained that is wrong and not necessarily an indicator of his current level. Not everyone spend a lot of time researching for the draft, and I just think it is a bit sad if someone judges Sorsby on a false basis, especially if the Cardinals do end up taking him. Nothing else.

Also, as the NFL shows, it isn’t really an ideal teaching league, and as Harry said, I don’t know how developing two QBs works.

I agree with Harry.