Suns trade for Center Mark Williams

[Superbone]

We need to get mark more 3s!! lol

Mark's shooting form is very good. I'm betting he's our best shooting center out to the three point range. Of course, Oso is out of the equation so that leaves Maluach who loves to shoot the three and has pretty good form but I just think Williams is the better shooter.

 

[Yuma]

Handful of games? It's been 50. That's 10 handfuls. He's played more in this one season than any other and we're just at the all-star break. Availability was my biggest worry about him when we acquired him.

He's only played 5 or 6. Green was expected to be flipped for trade assets. Then he got hurt. In the short sample size we have of him, you can see the potential with the Suns. these past couple he's been overly cautious.

 

[Yuma]

A little off topic, but one of these days I want to see Oso pull up and shoot a three.

Oh no! The footage that's out there of him shooting three's is very scary. If we have to win a game with him shooting a three, I guarantee you the other team will dare him to shoot it. At least with Williams you have a shot of it going in.

 

[Mainstreet]

Oh no! The footage that's out there of him shooting three's is very scary. If we have to win a game with him shooting a three, I guarantee you the other team will dare him to shoot it. At least with Williams you have a shot of it going in.

It's just a fantasy.

Surprisingly, I don' think he would let us down.

 

[Adrian]

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[Adrian]

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[95pro]

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Yep as I said before this guy is a beast, and is our key to success.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

my man mark williams has been taking a lot of fan flack lately and i get it but i don't get it

first - his recent drop off began when book got injured - the bookmark isn't just a catchy phrase it's how williams eats - these two work wonderfully together

centers can't leave williams because book will lob the ball right to him - this gives book the extra option of driving to the bucket or getting to his spot for the mid range - when book gets hot the centers start leaving williams to help on booker and they're screwed either way - this also opens up our 3 pt shooters

second - when williams gets a lot of points it's because he's also sprinting down court - but when teams try to exploit our small size by going inside it's williams coming to the rescue - and he's sticking around for rebounds instead of being off to the races - it's gotten to where williams is often inbounding the ball and not getting ahead of the pack

thirdly - oso - it's his overall game - he doesn't have to score to be truly valuable on offense but he's actually starting to score now - but if both are having low scoring games oso becomes the better option due to his defense

hippie summary - mark williams is fine - hasn't lost a step - still the same dawg - our starting unit isn't clicking with all the recent switch ups and that aint on williams - im quite glad we aren't having to overload him on minutes before the playoffs

im the biggest oso guy on the board but as of this morning williams is still the best option and it's clear as day - i think he'll be great in the playoffs

 

[Adrian]

Kellan Olson
@KellanOlson
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Couple things to note on Mark Williams being out tomorrow with left foot soreness.

-- Not the same right knee injury management we saw listed for previous back-to-back absences
-- That's the left foot he missed a lot of time for in the 2024-25 season due to a strained tendon.

 

[JosiahLee]

Oso had 1 good game…But the hustle and effort is there. Mark Williams needs to step up defensively. We’ll see if Oso can make it 2 good games tonight.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

i can't help myself - keep thinking about next year

nick richards did nothing but sit in phx once the pecking order was established - we could go into why but basically it ends with ott only playing/needing 2 centers - now with khaman coming along we may have 3 again

so who sits

williams is so good for us - gets up and down court - knows our defense - plays like a man around the rim on both side and gives high effort - he and book have a solid basketball rapport - when he dominates we dominate

william's is also in a slump and im not worried about that but the foot that's bugging him has a history of bugging him - and the suns could've extended williams back in october of last year but chose not to - so he'll be a restricted free agent after 2025/26

what would other teams offer him? $25 million a year? more if he finishes the season healthy? are we willing to match that?

oso is set to make just under $2.3 million next year - then $2.5 million in the final year of his rookie contract - not to mention ott is already choosing to leave oso in at the end of some games instead of williams

maluach is a little more expensive - $27 million but over 4 years - not per year like mark williams might want but basically - we can't afford to sit maluach - he simply needs to play

again - keep in mind ott only plays 2 bigs - unless oso moves to forward (which i don't see with the rise of fleming) the suns could theoretically move on from mark williams next year which is crazy to me - but salary cap and development wise... i could totally see it

would you pay mark williams next year? does oso's contract give us the flexibility?

 

[Mainstreet]

i can't help myself - keep thinking about next year

nick richards did nothing but sit in phx once the pecking order was established - we could go into why but basically it ends with ott only playing/needing 2 centers - now with khaman coming along we may have 3 again

so who sits

williams is so good for us - gets up and down court - knows our defense - plays like a man around the rim on both side and gives high effort - he and book have a solid basketball rapport - when he dominates we dominate

william's is also in a slump and im not worried about that but the foot that's bugging him has a history of bugging him - and the suns could've extended williams back in october of last year but chose not to - so he'll be a restricted free agent after 2025/26

what would other teams offer him? $25 million a year? more if he finishes the season healthy? are we willing to match that?

oso is set to make just under $2.3 million next year - then $2.5 million in the final year of his rookie contract - not to mention ott is already choosing to leave oso in at the end of some games instead of williams

maluach is a little more expensive - $27 million but over 4 years - not per year like mark williams might want but basically - we can't afford to sit maluach - he simply needs to play

again - keep in mind ott only plays 2 bigs - unless oso moves to forward (which i don't see with the rise of fleming) the suns could theoretically move on from mark williams next year which is crazy to me - but salary cap and development wise... i could totally see it

would you pay mark williams next year? does oso's contract give us the flexibility?

It only takes one team to throw a monkey wrench into the works but I think Mark Williams high end value might be around $15 million a season because of his past history of injuries. Ayton is making about $8 million a season.

Likely if a contender wanted him enough, it would likely be a sign and trade.

 

[Suns_fan69]

Here's the list of salaries for Cs in the league: https://www.spotrac.com/nba/contracts/_/position/c
Jarrett Allen's new deal is going to be $30M+ next year, Claxton is getting $24M, Wendell Carter Jr is getting $19.5M... I think Williams will get $20M+ easily.

 

[Hoop Head]

Here's the list of salaries for Cs in the league: https://www.spotrac.com/nba/contracts/_/position/c
Jarrett Allen's new deal is going to be $30M+ next year, Claxton is getting $24M, Wendell Carter Jr is getting $19.5M... I think Williams will get $20M+ easily.

Carter can stretch the floor so he has going for him. I think Zubac isn't a bad comparison for Williams. They both are
Iimited to the paint offensively and good lddwmalvs rebounders.Zubac is due $19.6 million and is the 14th highes paid C. This is Williams first deal but his
latest inju should keep it reasonable.


Heres another list of recent deals for comparison. I wouldn't be surprised if we theres sizeable amount to protect the team.

The 25 Highest-Paid NBA Centers in 2026

Ten-time NBA All-Star Anthony Davis leads the charge as the NBA's highest-paid center. He makes over $58 million per year.

frontofficesports.com

 

[Bada0Bing]

I think when he returns he plays fewer minutes. This off-season he resigns for about 20/yr and then we trade him mid season.

I think man man has earned his role of at least 5-10min per game when all 3 C’s are healthy.

 

[Carolinacacti]

Think the Suns might sign then trade the big man. Teams will want him and the Suns need draft capital

 

[Adrian]

Duane Rankin

@DuaneRankin
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Suns coach Jordan Ott said Mark Williams (left foot third metatarsal stress reaction) hasn't done anything on the court, but that was part of the plan.The 7-footer is still in a boot.Suns announced back on March 5 that he'd be re-evaluated in 2-to-3 weeks. #Suns

 

[Suns_fan69]

Duane Rankin
@DuaneRankin
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Suns coach Jordan Ott said Mark Williams (left foot third metatarsal stress reaction) hasn't done anything on the court, but that was part of the plan.The 7-footer is still in a boot.Suns announced back on March 5 that he'd be re-evaluated in 2-to-3 weeks. #Suns

Sounds like he'll be out a while if he's still in a boot.

 

[Yuma]

I think when he returns he plays fewer minutes. This off-season he resigns for about 20/yr and then we trade him mid season.

I think man man has earned his role of at least 5-10min per game when all 3 C’s are healthy.

I was listening to Kellen Olsen, and his take was that Suns may let him walk even with the draft capital they spent on him depending on the contract. Olsen felt if Williams' camp wanted $20 mil per season that was too much. If the Suns could get a market friendly $15 million they would resign him, because the contract would be tradable.

Listening to Olsen, I was thinking maybe they resign him on a front loaded deal, so maybe the first year is above $20 million and the remaining years get you towards that $15 million, with team options, etc.

 

[Bada0Bing]

I was listening to Kellen Olsen, and his take was that Suns may let him walk even with the draft capital they spent on him depending on the contract. Olsen felt if Williams' camp wanted $20 mil per season that was too much. If the Suns could get a market friendly $15 million they would resign him, because the contract would be tradable.

Listening to Olsen, I was thinking maybe they resign him on a front loaded deal, so maybe the first year is above $20 million and the remaining years get you towards that $15 million, with team options, etc.

Makes sense to me. He has nice value at $15m.

 

[Covert Rain]

I am not sure what it would take to keep him and Collin but if the Suns can do it while staying under the 2nd Apron they should do it. I mean Ishbia has said he has no problem going over the cap if it makes the team better. We just can't go over the 2nd Apron or we face severe penalties. Have no clue if that is possible.

Williams, Brooks and Collin are main pieces to the team's success. You lose any of these guys and I don't think they are easily replaceable. I think Isbia really needs to fight to keep the core together and build around that core to keep this culture intact.

 

[95pro]

I was listening to Kellen Olsen, and his take was that Suns may let him walk even with the draft capital they spent on him depending on the contract. Olsen felt if Williams' camp wanted $20 mil per season that was too much. If the Suns could get a market friendly $15 million they would resign him, because the contract would be tradable.

Listening to Olsen, I was thinking maybe they resign him on a front loaded deal, so maybe the first year is above $20 million and the remaining years get you towards that $15 million, with team options, etc.

I don't think he can command that much now considering the injury history, I thought it was a myth but now seems to be true that he will break at some point. Foot fracture is a huge red flag imo.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

i think the writing is on the wall especially with last night's small ball - i don't think williams is here next year - if he does get healthy before playoffs and balls out he's going to be too expensive

if he doesn't get healthy before the playoffs he could be a cast off - hoping to secure a backup position with another club because we're full up now - either way i don't see how he stays

 

[Adrian]

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[95pro]

Its a shame he went down just as Green was coming back, as I feel Green is one of the few on this team who can find our bigs. There's been more than times to count how many times he's had a mouse in the house on him to not get him the ball, really notable in transition too. Williams should be averaging at least 15 a game.