Suns' Roster is pretty good

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Suns Roster is pretty good

With one additional player in CP3 this Suns roster can compete for a playoff spot.

PG CP3/ Tyus Jones/ Gillespie
As long as CP3 starts the backup can be either Jones or Gillespie

SG Green/Beal/Brooks
That is good depth at SG

SF Book/Brooks/Bria/Beal
Book will still play the SG position The reason he is listed at SF he is taller and plays better D than Green. That is decent depth at SF

PF Dunn/Oso/Fleming
This is the weakest spot on the roster. However, this spot provides a ton of athleticism and defense with little to no shooting.

C Williams/ 10TH PICK/Richards/Oso
This spot provides defense and rebounding with a high FG percentage. Suns have a solid 3 man rotation at center.

CP3
Green
Book
Dunn
Williams

Jones
Beal
Brooks
Oso
10th pick

That is an above-average 10-man rotation. Looks like a playoff roster.
 

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Suns Roster is pretty good

With one additional player in CP3 this Suns roster can compete for a playoff spot.

PG CP3/ Tyus Jones/ Gillespie
As long as CP3 starts the backup can be either Jones or Gillespie

SG Green/Beal/Brooks
That is good depth at SG

SF Book/Brooks/Bria/Beal
Book will still play the SG position The reason he is listed at SF he is taller and plays better D than Green. That is decent depth at SF

PF Dunn/Oso/Fleming
This is the weakest spot on the roster. However, this spot provides a ton of athleticism and defense with little to no shooting.

C Williams/ 10TH PICK/Richards/Oso
This spot provides defense and rebounding with a high FG percentage. Suns have a solid 3 man rotation at center.

CP3
Green
Book
Dunn
Williams

Jones
Beal
Brooks
Oso
10th pick

That is an above-average 10-man rotation. Looks like a playoff roster.
I don't believe Tyus Jones will resign - He won't get a starting spot, and all we can offer is the min.

Beal will not get playing time, or will be cut. Can't see any way he contributes at all.

Fleming is the only real power forward. Oso is way to limited offensively to play the position, Dunn is not strong enough, Mark Williams won't work either since he also lacks any outside shot.

I don't see how CP3 would start either - not only is he cooked, we aren't not starting Green or Book and neither can really play SF.

We need 2 more PF's, a backup PG, and another backup SF. We need to move Grayson, Richards and Royce to somehow get those missing pieces, and most likely sign a PG for the min.

Also in no way is that an above average 10 man rotation. Brooks is a borderline starter, as is Williams. Dunn/Fleming are below average. Jalen Green is average at best. I get you want to be optimistic but as of now the Suns have one above average player - Booker. That is not going to get you into the playoffs.
 
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I don't believe Tyus Jones will resign - He won't get a starting spot, and all we can offer is the min.

Beal will not get playing time, or will be cut. Can't see any way he contributes at all.

Fleming is the only real power forward. Oso is way to limited offensively to play the position, Dunn is not strong enough, Mark Williams won't work either since he also lacks any outside shot.

I don't see how CP3 would start either - not only is he cooked, we aren't not starting Green or Book and neither can really play SF.

We need 2 more PF's, a backup PG, and another backup SF. We need to move Grayson, Richards and Royce to somehow get those missing pieces, and most likely sign a PG for the min.

Also in no way is that an above average 10 man rotation. Brooks is a borderline starter, as is Williams. Dunn/Fleming are below average. Jalen Green is average at best. I get you want to be optimistic but as of now the Suns have one above average player - Booker. That is not going to get you into the playoffs.
Williams is not a below average starter I dare say when healthy he’s actually above average. Not a star, but above average. Both his counting, and advanced, stats indicate such. And Brooks is an average starter. Not above average, but certainly average.
 

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Williams is not a below average starter I dare say when healthy he’s actually above average. Not a star, but above average. Both his counting, and advanced, stats indicate such. And Brooks is an average starter. Not above average, but certainly average.
Even making those exceptions, it's still a bad roster. Unless somehow Flemming and Maluach show out right away (which is not very likely), the Suns are a bottom tier team next year, as it stands at the moment.
 

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Even making those exceptions, it's still a bad roster. Unless somehow Flemming and Maluach show out right away (which is not very likely), the Suns are a bottom tier team next year, as it stands at the moment.
Not arguing that point. The lack of a pg and relying on a couple of rookies and a couple second year players, no matter how talented they are, means they’ll struggle.
 

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Williams is not a below average starter I dare say when healthy he’s actually above average. Not a star, but above average. Both his counting, and advanced, stats indicate such. And Brooks is an average starter. Not above average, but certainly average.
Well with Willams I am discounting him because I don't expect him to play more than 50 games - but even if he does I think it is a bit premature to call him an above average player because all anyone has seen him with is the Hornets. In a more competitive environment - which I hope the Suns can provide he may not fare as well.

Brooks as average might be fair - but that still means 1 above average player on the team.
 

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Less Bradley Beal's contract, the Suns would spring to life and have money to sign free agents.
Not really, even if they could magically dump the whole thing they would still be over the cap, so we are just talking about exceptions - and the Suns are not going to be a preferred destination for anyone.
 

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This roster has hungry young talent. It's the type of roster that could surprise. That depends on coaching.
It could surprise in that we have hope in 2 or 3 years. As far as this year goes with the depth of the West - no chance in hell.
 

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Not really, even if they could magically dump the whole thing they would still be over the cap, so we are just talking about exceptions - and the Suns are not going to be a preferred destination for anyone.

Getting back the Exceptions would be huge for Phoenix… it would put the Suns back in the pre-Durant era less picks.

Also, the Suns might get assets in trading Allen and/or O'Neale.
 

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The Suns seemingly did well with their draft this year, but they're going to need a couple years for those guys to develop, as well as a couple more fortuitous drafts to start being something.

Maybe Ishbia's "magic wallet" can rush that process along with some good FA signings in the next couple off-seasons. But they have to be prudent. One thing for sure is that we really almost have no trade pieces that will bring anything substantial, unless they decide to trade Booker at some point.
 

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Not really, even if they could magically dump the whole thing they would still be over the cap, so we are just talking about exceptions - and the Suns are not going to be a preferred destination for anyone.
Money talks
 

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Still we have a HUGE shoe to drop. Either we are stuck with Beal another year, or they have a way to get him of the team. That's going to determine how much we can do, and how fast.
 

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I am just not interested in adding a bunch of veteran journeymen in free agency. We aren't going for win-now mode, so let the young guys play.
 

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I am just not interested in adding a bunch of veteran journeymen in free agency. We aren't going for win-now mode, so let the young guys play.
Second unit to start the season is a great way to get the rookies some action.
 

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I am just not interested in adding a bunch of veteran journeymen in free agency. We aren't going for win-now mode, so let the young guys play.
It'd be good to get one more 'vet' as a shepherd to all the young players, like late Haslem or current James Johnson. The Suns all of a sudden have 7 players 23 years old or younger;8 if you count TyTy but not sure if he'll make the team, even as a 2 way.
 

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I don't see anyway we can be anywhere near a playoff squad with so many young players possibly in the rotation. Even if a bunch of these guys end up being good, they're still rookies and rookies are inconsistent and the 82 game grind is brutal.

We don't have a point guard, we have extreme inexperience at the forwards, we have a center who has averaged about 30 games played per season so far in his career, he's backed up by Richards (who is terrible) and an 18 year old.

I think they're going to be far more fun to watch but there are going to be some brutal games.

I'd also be very surprised if Beal is around, he's either getting traded, bought out or paid to chill at home.
 

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What number will Beal wear if rhe point god CP3 returns?
 
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I wonder what kind of playing personality this Koby[sp?] Brea has. Whether he has any of the drive and motivation to be any more than a shooting specialist role player.

My first thought for a comparison was Jason Kapono, but shorter. Possibly Kyle Korver. Actually, if one is willing to dig decades back, I would worry about this comparison to a Suns player who fizzled out: Wesley Person. A strong shooter, but not noted for anything else. I suspected for years that Person lacked either confidence or drive. He lasted for only a few years with the Suns before being traded, and never made great impact as a player.

I also wonder if Brea has high basketball IQ. If so, perhaps he could become similar to James Jones as a player, or stick around in the league as long as Korver.
 
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The Suns seemingly did well with their draft this year, but they're going to need a couple years for those guys to develop, as well as a couple more fortuitous drafts to start being something.

Maybe Ishbia's "magic wallet" can rush that process along with some good FA signings in the next couple off-seasons. But they have to be prudent. One thing for sure is that we really almost have no trade pieces that will bring anything substantial, unless they decide to trade Booker at some point.
Yeah I'm thrilled with the moves we've made following the KD trade but it would take a minor miracle to push this roster into the postseason. To me, it shouldn't even be their goal. I want to see the young guys get plenty of court time, their future is our future so we might as well get to it.
 

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It'd be good to get one more 'vet' as a shepherd to all the young players, like late Haslem or current James Johnson. The Suns all of a sudden have 7 players 23 years old or younger;8 if you count TyTy but not sure if he'll make the team, even as a 2 way.
vets can poison young players as easily as they can help.
 

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Suns Roster is pretty good

With one additional player in CP3 this Suns roster can compete for a playoff spot.

PG CP3/ Tyus Jones/ Gillespie
As long as CP3 starts the backup can be either Jones or Gillespie

SG Green/Beal/Brooks
That is good depth at SG

SF Book/Brooks/Bria/Beal
Book will still play the SG position The reason he is listed at SF he is taller and plays better D than Green. That is decent depth at SF

PF Dunn/Oso/Fleming
This is the weakest spot on the roster. However, this spot provides a ton of athleticism and defense with little to no shooting.

C Williams/ 10TH PICK/Richards/Oso
This spot provides defense and rebounding with a high FG percentage. Suns have a solid 3 man rotation at center.

CP3
Green
Book
Dunn
Williams

Jones
Beal
Brooks
Oso
10th pick

That is an above-average 10-man rotation. Looks like a playoff roster.

This is a 30 win team and this roster might be bottom 5 in the league. The fact guys on here think a completely washed CP3 will make any kind of difference is hilarious.

Something really weird happened when this team got good here.
 

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