Suns @ Pistons Thursday game thread, 1-15-2026

newBluePlanet

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Is everyone ready to concede that Grayson Allen is too valuable to trade?
absolutely. there was some grumbling about him last season that i thought was misplaced, but him and Collin were the only 2 i wouldn't have considered trading in the offseason. I felt Dunn was overrated because of his weak offense.

what i saw all along in Allen, besides his 3, was his effort and IQ. He does it all. Can handle the ball, drive, be clutch, etc.. His type can always contribute something. Same with Collin.

most of all, our role players now are our defensive strength and we are winning because of it. So, no. I'm not up for trading any parts that constitute our defensive and clutch performance core, of which, Allen is a part.

last night's first quarter was Allen at his finest. doing everything well. including amazing defense. And that forcing the ball out of bounds off of ? at the end of the prior game was a smart move only him and Brooks would have had the instincts to attempt.
 

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Toughhhhh l hard time sleepin l n...n

But great effort no book hoping he back soon

Tough stretch of gms.....
 

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Allen is actually a bad defender? I'm listening. I understood that he is no great defender but one of those archetypal "pests" on defense who tries to annoy his opponent and might play dirty. A Dillon Brooks without the noise and stupidity and with a much better three-point shot.

As for his getting tired...if he did, he did. He played so much only because there was hardly anyone else available. I don't ask for him to start or play that many minutes.

Watch the games. Team that move ball deliberately target Grayson on D. He can't stay in front of his man and is slow on switches also. He is a complimentary piece, ultimately. He'll have the occasional offensive outpouring but he can't do it regularly. He's kind of a like a modern Rex Chapman.

He did have a reputation when he came here but it was for cheap shots more than chippy defense like Dillon Brooks.
 
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