Suns draft Khaman Maluach with the 10th pick

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And here is what the text says.
Khaman Maluach in the G-League tonight:22 PTS19 REB (!!!)4 BLK8-11 FG

This development is very good. We want to win games right now, but what is most important is that we develop the talent we have. We cannot afford to waste any young player. Because of our lack of picks, we cannot miss any opportunities with any young players.
 

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Blocks, offensive rebounds, right handed hooks, left handed hooks, layups with both hands, three point shot, long two point jumper, finishing lobs at the rim, and even some dribbling in the open court (I wouldn't want him to do that much). He is starting to do this consistently in the G-league now.

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There's less questions surrounding Fleming, plus he wasn't a lotto pick, but it appears Maluach is coming along. Good article from Bright Side

Great article, thanks for posting. I think the most important thing in the article seems to be that the Suns are building a hustle culture at every level in the organization. Ott has determined what kind of team he wants to have, and they are even demanding it in G-league play. Maluach and Fleming both clearly know how they will have to play to get minutes with the NBA team.

Honestly. I have been a Suns fan since 1976 and we have never had that. The Barkley era teams relied on talent. The 77OL teams relied on quick offense and not much D, DAntoni also played 7-8 guys regularly, at most, so he burned them out by the end of the year. The Monty teams went really depended on CP3 to coordinate the talent on the floor, but were mediocre defensive teams.

This present situation seems to have a clear, well-rounded, culture in mind and is developing it from the ground up. It is the same culture that OKC has. That team has talent, but its the way they play together that really gives them an advantage.

We don't have the talent level, but its clear to see that a culture can make a team really competitive, and who knows what Fleming and Maluach might develop to be?
 

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Great article, thanks for posting. I think the most important thing in the article seems to be that the Suns are building a hustle culture at every level in the organization. Ott has determined what kind of team he wants to have, and they are even demanding it in G-league play. Maluach and Fleming both clearly know how they will have to play to get minutes with the NBA team.

Honestly. I have been a Suns fan since 1976 and we have never had that. The Barkley era teams relied on talent. The 77OL teams relied on quick offense and not much D, DAntoni also played 7-8 guys regularly, at most, so he burned them out by the end of the year. The Monty teams went really depended on CP3 to coordinate the talent on the floor, but were mediocre defensive teams.

This present situation seems to have a clear, well-rounded, culture in mind and is developing it from the ground up. It is the same culture that OKC has. That team has talent, but its the way they play together that really gives them an advantage.

We don't have the talent level, but its clear to see that a culture can make a team really competitive, and who knows what Fleming and Maluach might develop to be?

I can understand the reservations of Ishbia surrounding himself with Michigan alum but it's worked out. There really is a cohesive vision.

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Great article, thanks for posting. I think the most important thing in the article seems to be that the Suns are building a hustle culture at every level in the organization. Ott has determined what kind of team he wants to have, and they are even demanding it in G-league play. Maluach and Fleming both clearly know how they will have to play to get minutes with the NBA team.

Honestly. I have been a Suns fan since 1976 and we have never had that. The Barkley era teams relied on talent. The 77OL teams relied on quick offense and not much D, DAntoni also played 7-8 guys regularly, at most, so he burned them out by the end of the year. The Monty teams went really depended on CP3 to coordinate the talent on the floor, but were mediocre defensive teams.

This present situation seems to have a clear, well-rounded, culture in mind and is developing it from the ground up. It is the same culture that OKC has. That team has talent, but its the way they play together that really gives them an advantage.

We don't have the talent level, but its clear to see that a culture can make a team really competitive, and who knows what Fleming and Maluach might develop to be?

right situation is everything - imagine if we had drafted maluach 2 years ago and all the dysfunctionality he would have absorbed - no g-league his rookie year and he'd be on his 3rd coach already

he would have had to unlearn everything before learning this new defense - ott is on some other level - it's like the triangle offense but on the other side of the court - lots of rotations with designed responsibilities - richards has really struggled with the responsibility part

but ultimately ott loves possessions as much as he loves his defense - when manman starts rebounding like mutumbo and learning to pass the ball up court quickly it's on like donkey kong
 

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Blocks, offensive rebounds, right handed hooks, left handed hooks, layups with both hands, three point shot, long two point jumper, finishing lobs at the rim, and even some dribbling in the open court (I wouldn't want him to do that much). He is starting to do this consistently in the G-league now.

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Eh. It's better, but there is nothing that impressive in these highlights.
 

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Does the FG% not being listed intentional?

Personally I don't pay a lot of attention to overall FG% for bigs since most of their buckets are putbacks and assisted inside. Mitch Robinson in NY shoots 70% or close to it, which seems impressive until you look a little deeper.

Not my X account so I can't speak for the author but I'd rather see raw numbers like this than % for guys who don't create their own shot.
 

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Everyone is comparing him to Queen online. Queen is getting big minutes on a bad team, and playing well. Queen also has hit his ceiling. Lowest vertical in ALL the NBA combine. Plus Queen is a different style of player. Maluach is going to be more of a Mark Williams type of player. Not so much of a banger like Queen. More of a run the court player.
 

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Everyone is comparing him to Queen online. Queen is getting big minutes on a bad team, and playing well. Queen also has hit his ceiling. Lowest vertical in ALL the NBA combine. Plus Queen is a different style of player. Maluach is going to be more of a Mark Williams type of player. Not so much of a banger like Queen. More of a run the court player.
And guess what? We already have Mark Williams, so we can actually afford to bring ManMan along slowly. Queen is on a bad team with no quality centers behind him.

The fact that we can afford to bring Maluach along slowly is a blessing not a curse.
 

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Queen is ready-made. Maluach is not and needs some development. That's all there is to it. You can't compare them now. You need to wait until their careers are over or at least when they both reach their peaks. Queen will hit his much sooner.
 

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Queen is ready-made. Maluach is not and needs some development. That's all there is to it. You can't compare them now. You need to wait until their careers are over or at least when they both reach their peaks. Queen will hit his much sooner.
I have no particular insight on either player but from what I've read it seems to me that Queen has a much higher floor while Maluach has a somewhat higher ceiling. Considering how few assets we have, it's remarkable that our front office took such a gamble given our needs and how NBA ready Queen appeared to be. Only time will tell if it was the right call but considering how well their recent decisions have panned out, I'm looking forward to seeing it play out.
 

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I have no particular insight on either player but from what I've read it seems to me that Queen has a much higher floor while Maluach has a somewhat higher ceiling. Considering how few assets we have, it's remarkable that our front office took such a gamble given our needs and how NBA ready Queen appeared to be. Only time will tell if it was the right call but considering how well their recent decisions have panned out, I'm looking forward to seeing it play out.
Yeah, will be fun to see. The fact that the Suns signed Williams minutes before selecting Maluach plays into it. Seems to me like they had a long term plan all along. In fact thinking about it and what you said, it kind of makes sense. Because we have so few future assets, they picked a player that will be an asset further down the line when we may not have many coming in. We don't need him to produce right now. We have a nice mix of talent even with him out of the current equation.
 
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we don't have a get out of the way and let one guy cook offense - and trust - if queen is on your team you get the hell out of the way lol - we want cheetahs not rhinos - cheetahs are the future in the league
 

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Everyone is comparing him to Queen online. Queen is getting big minutes on a bad team, and playing well. Queen also has hit his ceiling. Lowest vertical in ALL the NBA combine. Plus Queen is a different style of player. Maluach is going to be more of a Mark Williams type of player. Not so much of a banger like Queen. More of a run the court player.
I think it’s premature to say queen has hit his ceiling as a rookie.
 
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