Sporting News Free Agency Rankings

[Chris_Sanders]

A lot of detail on the top 50. Unlike PFF they value RBs so Drake is like #46

Byrd is #16 at WR
Clay is #6 at TE
Humphries #6 at T

No other Cardinals free agent appears on any list including Zane.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl...players-by-position/qyh7txt8tytt1e9e5e76mip61

Quarterbacks

1. Dak Prescott, Cowboys
2. Drew Brees, Saints
3. Tom Brady, Patriots
4. Ryan Tannehill, Titans
5. Jameis Winston, Buccaneers
6. Philip Rivers, Chargers
7. Teddy Bridgewater, Saints
8. Marcus Mariota, Titans
9. Case Keenum, Redskins
10. Blake Bortles, Rams
11. Colt McCoy, Redskins
12. AJ McCarron, Texans
13. Matt Moore, Chiefs
14. Chase Daniel, Bears

Running backs

1. Derrick Henry, Titans
2. Melvin Gordon III, Chargers
3. Kenyan Drake, Cardinals
4. Jordan Howard, Eagles
5. Carlos Hyde, Texans
6. Peyton Barber, Buccaneers
7. Lamar Miller, Texans
8. Chris Thompson, Redskins
9. DeAndre Washington, Raiders
10. Isaiah Crowell, Raiders
11. Ty Montgomery, Jets

Wide receivers

1. Amari Cooper, Cowboys
2. A.J. Green, Bengals
3. Breshad Perriman, Buccaneers
4. Robby Anderson, Jets
5. Emmanuel Sanders, 49ers
6. Rashard Higgins, Browns
7. Phillip Dorsett, Patriots
8. Randall Cobb, Cowboys
9. Danny Amendola, Lions
10. Devin Funchess, Colts
11. Nelson Agholor, Eagles
12. Tajae Sharpe, Titans
13. Chester Rogers, Colts
14. Geronimo Allison, Packers
15. Demarcus Robinson, Chiefs
16. Damiere Byrd, Cardinals
17. Cody Latimer, Giants

Tight ends

1. Hunter Henry, Chargers
2. Austin Hooper, Falcons
3. Eric Ebron, Colts
4. Tyler Eifert, Bengals
5. Darren Fells, Texans
6. Charles Clay, Cardinals
7. Logan Thomas, Lions
8. Nick O’Leary, Jaguars
9. Nick Vannett, Steelers
10. Vernon Davis, Redskins
11. Jason Witten, Cowboys

Offensive tackles

1. Anthony Castonzo, Colts
2. Jack Conklin, Titans
3. Bryan Bulaga, Packers
4. Andrew Whitworth, Rams
5. Jason Peters, Eagles
6. D.J. Humphries, Cardinals
7. Darryl Williams, Panthers
8. Demar Dotson, Buccaneers
9. Chris Clark, Texans
10. Mike Remmers, Giants
11. Kelvin Beachum, Jets
12. Greg Robinson, Browns
13. Germain Ifedi, Seahawks

Guards

1. Joe Thuney, Patriots
2. Brandon Scherff, Redskins
3. Austin Blythe, Rams
4. Graham Glasgow, Lions
5. Richie Incognito, Raiders
6. Andrus Peat, Saints
7. Quinton Spain, Bills
8. Ereck Flowers, Redskins
9. Mike Iupati, Seahawks

Centers

1. Connor McGovern, Broncos
2. Ted Karras, Patriots

Defensive tackles

• Chris Jones, Chiefs
• Arik Armstead, 49ers
• D.J. Reader, Texans
• Leonard Williams, Jets
• Javon Hargrave, Steelers
• Shelby Harris, Broncos
• Jarran Reed, Seahawks
• Michael Pierce, Ravens
• Ndamukong Suh, Buccaneers
• Gerald McCoy, Panthers
• Jordan Phillips, Bllls
• David Onyemata, Saints
• Maliek Collins, Cowboys
• Derek Wolfe, Broncos
• Michael Brockers, Rams
• Danny Shelton, Patriots
• Mike Daniels, Lions
• Andrew Billings, Bengals
• Tim Jernigan, Eagles
• Beau Allen, Buccaneers
• A’Shawn Robinson, Lions

Edge rushers

• Jadeveon Clowney, Seahawks
• Shaquill Barrett, Buccaneers
• Yannick Ngaukoe, Jaguars
• Matthew Judon, Ravens
• Bud Dupree, Steelers
• Dante Fowler Jr., Rams
• Robert Quinn, Cowboys
• Shaq Lawson, Bills
• Vic Beasley, Falcons

Outside linebackers

• Kyle Van Noy, Patriots
• Jamie Collins, Patriots

Inside linebackers

• Cory Littleton, Rams
• Joe Schobert, Browns
• Blake Martinez, Packers
• Nick Kwiatkoski, Bears
• Danny Trevathan, Bears
• Patrick Onwuasor, Ravens
• Josh Bynes, Ravens

Cornerbacks

• Byron Jones, Cowboys
• Chris Harris Jr., Broncos
• Bradley Roby, Texans
• James Bradberry, Panthers
• Trae Waynes, Vikings
• Logan Ryan, Titans
• Jimmy Smith, Ravens
• Kendall Fuller, Chiefs
• Troy Hill, Rams
• Ronald Darby, Eagles
• Darqueze Dennard, Bengals
• Brian Poole, Jets
• Eli Apple, Saints
• Mackensie Alexander, Vikings
• Johnathan Joseph, Texans
• Anthony Brown, Cowboys
• Kevin Johnson, Bills
• Javien Elliott, Panthers

Safeties

• Anthony Harris, Vikings
• Justin Simmons, Broncos
• Devin McCourty, Patriots
• Vonn Bell, Saints
• Jimmie Ward, 49ers
• Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Bears
• Adrian Phillips, Chargers
• Tre Boston, Panthers
• Tavon Wilson, Lions
• Damarious Randall, Browns
• Jayron Kearse, Vikings
• Will Parks, Broncos
• Rodney McLeod, Eagles
• Eric Murray, Browns
• D.J. Swearinger, Saints

Kickers

• Greg Zuerlein, Rams
• Ka’imi Fairbairn, Texans
• Mason Crosby, Packers
• Dan Bailey, Vikings
• Nick Folk, Patirots
• Adam Vinatieri, Colts

Punters

• Matt Bosher, Falcons
• Sam Martin, Lions

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Those tackle rankings are just fuel to Britcard's fire on Humphries

 

[Southpaw]

Fowler has been LA’s best pass rusher during this current season (and that includes Aaron Donald). However, the Rams have tons of money tied up with other members of its team. LA also faces the challenge of having to re-sign starting DT Michael Brockers. Division rival Arizona is flush with cash, and is determined to add a complementary edge rusher opposite Chandler Jones.

Prediction: Arizona Cardinals

https://newarena.com/nfl/predicting...-sign-this-offseason/2/?amxt=ref_2_inview_psh

 

[slanidrac16]

Fowler has been LA’s best pass rusher during this current season (and that includes Aaron Donald). However, the Rams have tons of money tied up with other members of its team. LA also faces the challenge of having to re-sign starting DT Michael Brockers. Division rival Arizona is flush with cash, and is determined to add a complementary edge rusher opposite Chandler Jones.

Prediction: Arizona Cardinals

https://newarena.com/nfl/predicting...-sign-this-offseason/2/?amxt=ref_2_inview_psh

Can you imagine a LB corp of Jones, Hicks, Fowler and perhaps Simmons? Yowser! Me likey!

 

[Ronin]

Can you imagine a LB corp of Jones, Hicks, Fowler and perhaps Simmons? Yowser! Me likey!

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[juza76]

There are many good pass rushers and defensive tackle
Its an area where we need to invest lot of cap through free agency window

 

[blindseyed]

I wouldn't mind Ebron or Eifert, although I don't know if TE will be a priority in Keims brain

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Hearing that we might go for Washington if we lose Drake.

Not a big surprise...

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"Hey, we're getting the team back together !!"

 

[Solar7]

Hearing that we might go for Washington if we lose Drake.

Not a big surprise...

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"Hey, we're getting the team back together !!"

This I could really get behind, actually.

Those tackle rankings are just fuel to Britcard's fire on Humphries

Seriously. It's hard not to think "uh oh" when you keep seeing DJ so far down that list.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

Division rival Arizona is flush with cash, and is determined to add a complementary edge rusher opposite Chandler Jones.

Prediction: Arizona Cardinals

https://newarena.com/nfl/predicting...-sign-this-offseason/2/?amxt=ref_2_inview_psh

We are?

Are DJ and Bradford returning the money from their heist?

 

[GuernseyCard]

Those tackle rankings are just fuel to Britcard's fire on Humphries

Offensive tackles

1. Anthony Castonzo, Colts (age: 32 going into the season)
2. Jack Conklin, Titans (age: 26 going into the season)
3. Bryan Bulaga, Packers (age: 31 going into the season) - Right-tackle
4. Andrew Whitworth, Rams (age: 38 going into the season) - news: will resign with Rams.
5. Jason Peters, Eagles (age: 38 going into the season)
6. D.J. Humphries, Cardinals (age: 26 going into the season)

 

[Chris_Sanders]

This I could really get behind, actually.


Seriously. It's hard not to think "uh oh" when you keep seeing DJ so far down that list.

Right?

Is it media group think or an actual consensus

 

[Solar7]

Offensive tackles

1. Anthony Castonzo, Colts (age: 32 going into the season)
2. Jack Conklin, Titans (age: 26 going into the season)
3. Bryan Bulaga, Packers (age: 31 going into the season) - Right-tackle
4. Andrew Whitworth, Rams (age: 38 going into the season) - news: will resign with Rams.
5. Jason Peters, Eagles (age: 38 going into the season)
6. D.J. Humphries, Cardinals (age: 26 going into the season)

Is this supposed to support your argument for Humphries? If anything, being 26 going into the season should put him above the guys who have one year left.

 

[BritCard]

Is this supposed to support your argument for Humphries? If anything, being 26 going into the season should put him above the guys who have one year left.

When your the only guy that didn't grow up with VCRs and you're still 6th.

When the premium left tackle market is bare and you can't even make top 50 FA's over a running back that's never topped 644 yards.

 

[DVontel]

We’re the Cardinals so I fully expect Hump to sign with another team & turn into the next Jason Peters.

 

[AZman5103]

We are not "flush with cash" unless we let DJ and possibly Drake walk.

I have said it once, and I will say it again....use the TRANSITION tag on Humphries.

The transition designation is a one-year tender offer for an amount that is the average of the top 10 salaries at the position -- as opposed to top five for the franchise tag. It guarantees the original club the right of first refusal to match any offer the player might receive from another club. The tagging team is awarded no compensation if it chooses not to match a deal.

Tagged players have until 4 p.m. ET on July 15 to negotiate a multiyear contract with the team. After July 15, the player may sign only a one-year contract with his club for the 2019 season, and the deal cannot be extended until after the team's last regular-season game.

Players may sign the tender at any point after officially being tagged. Until the tender is inked, the team can rescind the franchise or transition tag. Once the sheet is signed, the player's salary is guaranteed for that season. If a player does not sign the tender, they remain without a contract"

The projected Transition Tag for OT's this year is 13.6 million, as opposed to 15 million for the Franchise Tag.

The Transition Tag allows DJ to go out an test the market and negotiate a deal with another team, because they will not have to give up any compensation if they sign him.

I would bet money that DJ finds that no team is willing to offer him 13.6 million per year, and any offers he get would be more in the 9-11 million range. If a team offers him that, we can match and sign him long term. If he does not receive a long term offer, he can play for us for 13.6 guaranteed....or more likely he can negotiate a new deal with us, but now with a much more realistic view of what his market value is.

For everyone that says DJ will be overpaid because of lack of LT's available...I would argue there are 5 better FA's and at least 4 rookies that teams would prefer over him. There is no way he gets 15 million per year long term, and the fact that his agents apparently "balked" at 12 million per year from us shows he needs to be given a dose of reality.

The worst case scenario with this plan is that DJ gets offered a contract we choose not to match....after the draft....and after we have missed out on a LT replacement we would have prefered. At that point we would be left searching for another FA who doesn't have a contract yet for 1 year.

 

[kerouac9]

I'd pay Jack Conklin the money that I'm earmarking for D.J. Humphires in a heartbeat. But I'm trying to build a team; everyone above Humphries on that list is a stop-gap.

I think Humphries would sign the franchise tender in a heartbeat if we put the tag on him.

 

[kerouac9]

We are not "flush with cash" unless we let DJ and possibly Drake walk.

I have said it once, and I will say it again....use the TRANSITION tag on Humphries.

The transition designation is a one-year tender offer for an amount that is the average of the top 10 salaries at the position -- as opposed to top five for the franchise tag. It guarantees the original club the right of first refusal to match any offer the player might receive from another club. The tagging team is awarded no compensation if it chooses not to match a deal.

Tagged players have until 4 p.m. ET on July 15 to negotiate a multiyear contract with the team. After July 15, the player may sign only a one-year contract with his club for the 2019 season, and the deal cannot be extended until after the team's last regular-season game.

Players may sign the tender at any point after officially being tagged. Until the tender is inked, the team can rescind the franchise or transition tag. Once the sheet is signed, the player's salary is guaranteed for that season. If a player does not sign the tender, they remain without a contract"

The projected Transition Tag for OT's this year is 13.6 million, as opposed to 15 million for the Franchise Tag.

The Transition Tag allows DJ to go out an test the market and negotiate a deal with another team, because they will not have to give up any compensation if they sign him.

I would bet money that DJ finds that no team is willing to offer him 13.6 million per year, and any offers he get would be more in the 9-11 million range. If a team offers him that, we can match and sign him long term. If he does not receive a long term offer, he can play for us for 13.6 guaranteed....or more likely he can negotiate a new deal with us, but now with a much more realistic view of what his market value is.

For everyone that says DJ will be overpaid because of lack of LT's available...I would argue there are 5 better FA's and at least 4 rookies that teams would prefer over him. There is no way he gets 15 million per year long term, and the fact that his agents apparently "balked" at 12 million per year from us shows he needs to be given a dose of reality.

The worst case scenario with this plan is that DJ gets offered a contract we choose not to match....after the draft....and after we have missed out on a LT replacement we would have prefered. At that point we would be left searching for another FA who doesn't have a contract yet for 1 year.

Meh. That's a lot of rigamorole to go through to save $1.4 million on the cap.

 

[AZman5103]

Meh. That's a lot of rigamorole to go through to save $1.4 million on the cap.

I completely disagree. We are allowed to use one tag per year. The franchise tag pisses players off because it effectively eliminates their ability to negotiate another contract. The Transition tag lets them get other offers, and then gives us the chance to match it.

The whole point of letting him negotiate with other teams is to strengthen our own position. If someone offers him 15 million (the cost of the franchise tag) we can match it and we are none the worse. If the best offer he gets is 10 million per year, we can match it...or it will strengthen our position to negotiate a deal...or he will play for 1 year at 13.6....saving us money.

Right now DJ and his agent are trying to say...you better offer up top 5 LT money or someone else will. I say we make them prove it.

 

[GuernseyCard]

When your the only guy that didn't grow up with VCRs and you're still 6th.

When the premium left tackle market is bare and you can't even make top 50 FA's over a running back that's never topped 644 yards.

The only subjective list that matters is the available left tackles and arguably he slots in at 3 of those who could receive long term offers.

 

[kerouac9]

I completely disagree. We are allowed to use one tag per year. The franchise tag pisses players off because it effectively eliminates their ability to negotiate another contract. The Transition tag lets them get other offers, and then gives us the chance to match it.

The whole point of letting him negotiate with other teams is to strengthen our own position. If someone offers him 15 million (the cost of the franchise tag) we can match it and we are none the worse. If the best offer he gets is 10 million per year, we can match it...or it will strengthen our position to negotiate a deal...or he will play for 1 year at 13.6....saving us money.

Right now DJ and his agent are trying to say...you better offer up top 5 LT money or someone else will. I say we make them prove it.

You have to ask yourself why no one uses the transition tag — even for kickers. Robbie Gould was given the Franchise Tag last year. It's because players hate the transition tag more than the franchise tag. The franchise tag automatically provides a 10% increase if you use it again. The transition tag doesn't.

No team is going to take the time to work out a deal with a free agent who carries the Transition Tag because they don't want to do the work for another team.

 

[GuernseyCard]

I completely disagree. We are allowed to use one tag per year. The franchise tag pisses players off because it effectively eliminates their ability to negotiate another contract. The Transition tag lets them get other offers, and then gives us the chance to match it.

The whole point of letting him negotiate with other teams is to strengthen our own position. If someone offers him 15 million (the cost of the franchise tag) we can match it and we are none the worse. If the best offer he gets is 10 million per year, we can match it...or it will strengthen our position to negotiate a deal...or he will play for 1 year at 13.6....saving us money.

Right now DJ and his agent are trying to say...you better offer up top 5 LT money or someone else will. I say we make them prove it.

Sure, all you need is another GM to do Keim's job of negotiating a new deal. Good luck with that. Additionally, if some team really wants DJ (and have the cap room) they'll just up the year one cap hit and make matching cost prohibitive.

 

[football karma]

everyone above Humphries on that list is a stop-gap.

noboby is signing Jason Peters or Andrew Whitworth to multi year deals --

 

[football karma]

The projected Transition Tag for OT's this year is 13.6 million, as opposed to 15 million for the Franchise Tag.

if you are going to tag him, just franchise tag him and have certainty that you will have a LT next year

transition means some team can truly do something stupid and you lose him -- all to save $1.4mm

 

[AZman5103]

if you are going to tag him, just franchise tag him and have certainty that you will have a LT next year

transition means some team can truly do something stupid and you lose him -- all to save $1.4mm

If some team offers him something crazy...we don't save 1.4 million...we save 15 or 16 millions..or whatever their crazy offer is.

The transition tag is 13.6 million fully guaranteed, which is still more than DJ is worth!! If he wants to play one year under a tag and then bolt, it won't matter if its the franchise tag or the transition tag.

The point is he isn't getting either of those amounts from another team. He is going to see teams offering him 9-10 million per year max, and he is going to realize that he better come to the negotiating table with a more realistic number, or he needs to sign the tag and try his luck next year.

If someone wants to "poison pill" us for the 6th best FA LT in a weak class, then more power to them. We will move on and be just fine. The reality is it would be a reality check to a player that is massively over valuing himself.