Should we trade Josh Sweat?

[Stout]

Yes. I'll explain why.

I have concerns about Sweat this year. I don't believe he asked for a trade, but I can imagine he's not happy. He's 29 years old and he's guaranteed a losing season.

From what I have seen of his he doesn't strike me as they "I'm going to do the job 100% no matter what because that's what I'm getting paid to do" type. He seems like the type that needs to be playing for something. This seems fairly evident in his stats last year.

5 of his 12 sacks came in the first 5 weeks. After week 10 he had 3 sacks.

He also very much seems like the type to think he's now vastly underpaid. Despite his low snap count.

I understand the "You can't trade your best players" line, but you can. People do. Because if they aren't all in then you aren't going to get much out of them, and they can be a negative in the locker room.

If he stays I can see it being a mediocre 6 sack season and next year we have a 30 year old guy with much less value.

So take an untalented defense and make it possibly the least talented defense in Cards history? Great plan

 

[Chopper0080]

Yes. I'll explain why.

I have concerns about Sweat this year. I don't believe he asked for a trade, but I can imagine he's not happy. He's 29 years old and he's guaranteed a losing season.

From what I have seen of his he doesn't strike me as they "I'm going to do the job 100% no matter what because that's what I'm getting paid to do" type. He seems like the type that needs to be playing for something. This seems fairly evident in his stats last year.

5 of his 12 sacks came in the first 5 weeks. After week 10 he had 3 sacks.

He also very much seems like the type to think he's now vastly underpaid. Despite his low snap count.

I understand the "You can't trade your best players" line, but you can. People do. Because if they aren't all in then you aren't going to get much out of them, and they can be a negative in the locker room.

If he stays I can see it being a mediocre 6 sack season and next year we have a 30 year old guy with much less value.

I appreciate your commitment to the collection of magic beans. One of the very few FAs Monti has added that has made a positive impact and you want to get rid of him for ?

There are franchises out there that this would make sense for. Minnesota did something like this with Greenard but they have a talented roster with expensive players and a former first round pick in Dallas Turner to replace him.

The Cardinals have none of those things.

 

[SunsTzu]

I appreciate your commitment to the collection of magic beans. One of the very few FAs Monti has added that has made a positive impact and you want to get rid of him for ?

There are franchises out there that this would make sense for. Minnesota did something like this with Greenard but they have a talented roster with expensive players and a former first round pick in Dallas Turner to replace him.

The Cardinals have none of those things.

I'm sure tearing the roster back down to the studs again will totally work for Monti this time.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

do we want double digit sacks from your edge? yes

does he still want to be here? i haven't heard

what would he fetch? idk maybe a 3rd?

i say keep him unless he wants to bounce

 

[Chopper0080]

do we want double digit sacks from your edge? yes

does he still want to be here? i haven't heard

what would he fetch? idk maybe a 3rd?

i say keep him unless he wants to bounce

Greenard netted two 3rd round picks but he also needed a new conract.

 

[Goldfield]

are you seriously suggesting we're making the playoffs in the next 2 years?

We’re definitely not if we trade off our best players

 

[Crimson Warrior]

So take an untalented defense and make it possibly the least talented defense in Cards history? Great plan

If we had a killer GM, who could fleece the other team in a trade, then maybe.

But we have Monti Ossenfort. So… you know…

 

[Goldfield]

If he doesn’t think we should be in the playoffs with two years what are we doing with the guy? That would be a six year rebuild.

Changing QBs is going to throw a wrench into winning

 

[Proximo]

I would say maybe. It depends on the offers. I know he is our only pass rusher, but he is on the older side, and he doesn't want to be here.

I know trading him this year makes us worse, but I have no expectations of that mattering.

 

[Chopper0080]

I would say maybe. It depends on the offers. I know he is our only pass rusher, but he is on the older side, and he doesn't want to be here.

I know trading him this year makes us worse, but I have no expectations of that mattering.

It's not about this year or next year, it is about the fact that you have to build a competitive roster to be competitive. You have to add talent. If you have to add vet talent, then you either choose to draft and develop players behind them or at other positions. Until you have players who can step into these vacated roles, you hold onto to good, veteran players.

Josh Sweat and Budda Baker are the two best players on this defense and it isn't particularly close. Budda is gone next year due to how his contract is structured. The team isn't in a position to just offload Sweat for 2nd or 3rd rounders.

 

[kerouac9]

Josh Sweat and Budda Baker are the two best players on this defense and it isn't particularly close.

This is BJ Ojulari erasure and I won’t stand for it.

Sweat and Baker are also two of the few expected starters under contract for 2027. Especially if ST5 and SMB are actually going to play.

 

[Proximo]

It's not about this year or next year, it is about the fact that you have to build a competitive roster to be competitive. You have to add talent. If you have to add vet talent, then you either choose to draft and develop players behind them or at other positions. Until you have players who can step into these vacated roles, you hold onto to good, veteran players.

Josh Sweat and Budda Baker are the two best players on this defense and it isn't particularly close. Budda is gone next year due to how his contract is structured. The team isn't in a position to just offload Sweat for 2nd or 3rd rounders.

Well, I wouldn't do it for just picks, if I am trading him I want a pick and a good young player at a position of need. Like I said it depends on what you can get for him.

Pass Rusher is pretty much the only position you can be overpaid for other than QB considering the lack of quality ones available.

 

[kerouac9]

Well, I wouldn't do it for just picks, if I am trading him I want a pick and a good young player at a position of need. Like I said it depends on what you can get for him.

Pass Rusher is pretty much the only position you can be overpaid for other than QB considering the lack of quality ones available.

Well you’re not going to get this.

 

[Cheesebeef]

It's not about this year or next year, it is about the fact that you have to build a competitive roster to be competitive. You have to add talent. If you have to add vet talent, then you either choose to draft and develop players behind them or at other positions. Until you have players who can step into these vacated roles, you hold onto to good, veteran players.

Josh Sweat and Budda Baker are the two best players on this defense and it isn't particularly close. Budda is gone next year due to how his contract is structured. The team isn't in a position to just offload Sweat for 2nd or 3rd rounders.

especially when Monti has shown almost zero aptittude to replace good players in the draft.

 

[Chopper0080]

Well, I wouldn't do it for just picks, if I am trading him I want a pick and a good young player at a position of need. Like I said it depends on what you can get for him.

Pass Rusher is pretty much the only position you can be overpaid for other than QB considering the lack of quality ones available.

There are only two positions of need on this team that you might be able to fill via trade. 1 - pass rusher but trading Sweat just creates a need for another pass rusher. 2 - DL.

I will believe yo can get a good, young player at EDGE or DL AND a pick when we see it.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

if he wants to truely leave then send him packing. This is a 3 win team with no QB

 

[BritCard]

So take an untalented defense and make it possibly the least talented defense in Cards history? Great plan

I appreciate your commitment to the collection of magic beans. One of the very few FAs Monti has added that has made a positive impact and you want to get rid of him for ?

There are franchises out there that this would make sense for. Minnesota did something like this with Greenard but they have a talented roster with expensive players and a former first round pick in Dallas Turner to replace him.

The Cardinals have none of those things.

I'm pretty sure I said I expect Sweat to have a down year and explained why. In which case the limited talent I expect him to show isn't worth much.

He clearly stopped playing as soon as we started getting whooped. At the start of the year when we were in games his stats were much better. Later in the year when we started losing by double digits he vanished. I don't think the team should carry a disgruntled fair weather player.

What is worth more is what we could get for him now based on last years performance to use in the next draft where we absolutely need to find our future QB.

That is more important than Josh Sweat getting 6 sacks on a mediocre defense next year where, even when full healthy, he only played 60% of snaps.

Even if Sweat somehow repeated his 12 sack performance, what difference would it make? What difference did he make to the 3-14 team last year? If you could get a 2027 2nd round pick for him you snatch their hand off and don't look back.

 

[QuebecCard]

I'm pretty sure I said I expect Sweat to have a down year and explained why. In which case the limited talent I expect him to show isn't worth much.

He clearly stopped playing as soon as we started getting whooped. At the start of the year when we were in games his stats were much better. Later in the year when we started losing by double digits he vanished. I don't think the team should carry a disgruntled fair weather player.

What is worth more is what we could get for him now based on last years performance to use in the next draft where we absolutely need to find our future QB.

That is more important than Josh Sweat getting 6 sacks on a mediocre defense next year where, even when full healthy, he only played 60% of snaps.

Even if Sweat somehow repeated his 12 sack performance, what difference would it make? What difference did he make to the 3-14 team last year? If you could get a 2027 2nd round pick for him you snatch their hand off and don't look back.

And I thought you were humourless.

 

[GatorAZ]

Better time to revisit at the deadline if we’re terrible and he’s still productive.

 

[Adrian]

Cardinals Shouldn't Even Think About Josh Sweat Trade

The Arizona Cardinals can't trade Josh Sweat. They shouldn't even think about.

www.si.com

 

[Cardinal88]

The answer to the original post is no we should not intertain trading him. He's an alpha dog and will come to play on Sundays (we can actually say Sunday because we have no prime time games, haha!). Anyway, I can't imagine Sweat taking time off but if he does, the team can trade him before the trade deadline. Most likely, we get more value trading him later than earlier.

 

[kerouac9]

He's an alpha dog

He’s not honestly tho.

 

[Cardinal88]

He’s not honestly tho.

Why do you say that? He appears to be pretty active as a pass-rusher. I can't imagine that he would take time off on plays.

 

[kerouac9]

Why do you say that? He appears to be pretty active as a pass-rusher. I can't imagine that he would take time off on plays.

He’s fine, but he’s not a leader or someone who’s especially connected to the team. He’s a weirdo with a nose ring.

Still productive and one of our two- or three-best defenders.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

the sports world is manufacturing this crisis.