Robert Quinn available

[Mainstreet]

Cardinals mught need a center as well unless the matter with Hudson is resolved.

 

[juza76]

Cardinals mught need a center as well unless the matter with Hudson is resolved.

Good lineman are hard to find in March, in June what do u expect ?

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Age wasn't an issue with Berry who was 29 when he signed as a FA.

And our needs at NT and CB supersede pass rush at this point. IMO.

If they can't bulk up CB, a good pass rush can help mask that, though. IMO, it's an either/or situation.

 

[Mainstreet]

Good lineman are hard to find in March, in June what do u expect ?

I'm expressing a concern for a position of need.

 

[juza76]

I'm expressing a concern for a position of need.

Understand, but there aren't solutions out there
Best scenario will Hernandez turn into pro bowler and Josh Jones make a big leap

 

[Stout]

Where are all these quality FA signings that will absolutely plug our manifold needs that I've been promised would easily be available this time of year? Bueller, Bueller? I feel some posters were quite nonchalant in making unrealistic guarantees earlier in the offseason with their "all is well" rhetoric. You know who you are

 

[Chopper0080]

I would not give up future assets to pay Robert Quinn 37 mil over this year and the two after. If I wanted to do that I would have re-signed Chandler Jones. Guy is 32.

 

[Cardinal88]

Jones signed a $51M contract for 3 years and $17M per year. Didn't the Bears sign Quinn for $70M with a $3M signing bonus and $30M guaranteed? I'm not a cap person but I would think the Bears would have to eat the $30M amount leaving $40M over remaining 3 years ($13M/year). Seems like a decent deal compared to Jones contract.

 

[Goldfield]

Have to call and ask

 

[oaken1]

no thanks.
we got some young guys. Let them play.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I wonder if all the other teams simply have not blocked the Cards' front office number on their phones at this point... while Keim is frantically getting new numbers which they add to the solicitor list lol

 

[Chopper0080]

Jones signed a $51M contract for 3 years and $17M per year. Didn't the Bears sign Quinn for $70M with a $3M signing bonus and $30M guaranteed? I'm not a cap person but I would think the Bears would have to eat the $30M amount leaving $40M over remaining 3 years ($13M/year). Seems like a decent deal compared to Jones contract.

Quinn would cost 12.9, 14, 13 over the remainder of his contract. He is 32 years old and coming off his 2nd double digit sack season in the past 7 years.

Jones costs the Raiders 7.8, 19.4, 19.4 over the next 3 years. He is also 32 yards old and coming off his 6th double digit sack season in the past 7 years.

Chandler knew the system, and Quinn would not. Chandler would not have cost draft picks to sign and Quinn would.

So yes, there would be cost savings but we already are strapped to find ways to fill out our roster moving forward and giving up the draft picks we have to acquire expensive and old edge players who may or may not fit our system isn't really a great strategy.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Quinn would cost 12.9, 14, 13 over the remainder of his contract. He is 32 years old and coming off his 2nd double digit sack season in the past 7 years.

Jones costs the Raiders 7.8, 19.4, 19.4 over the next 3 years. He is also 32 yards old and coming off his 6th double digit sack season in the past 7 years.

Chandler knew the system, and Quinn would not. Chandler would not have cost draft picks to sign and Quinn would.

So yes, there would be cost savings but we already are strapped to find ways to fill out our roster moving forward and giving up the draft picks we have to acquire expensive and old edge players who may or may not fit our system isn't really a great strategy.

Sometimes it's better to go the cheaper route. If the collection of Gardeck, Thomas, Kennard, and Sanders can match Jones' sacks, it's a win.

I'd rather look at a center and CB.

 

[Chopper0080]

Sometimes it's better to go the cheaper route. If the collection of Gardeck, Thomas, Kennard, and Sanders can match Jones' sacks, it's a win.

I'd rather look at a center and CB.

I also think it goes to what seems to be Bidwill's spending directive which is apparently "don't spend as I am going to have to cut a fat check for Kyler".

Ultimately outside of DL and C (depending on Hudson), I am good to take this roster into the season and see what happens. The NFC is pretty crappy right now so what we have this year is good enough to compete if Kyler can play like he will be getting paid. And, if he can't, we are stuck overpaying him and will be a fringe playoff team for the entirety of his contract.

Our roster issues are less 2022 and more 2023.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I also think it goes to what seems to be Bidwill's spending directive which is apparently "don't spend as I am going to have to cut a fat check for Kyler".

Ultimately outside of DL and C (depending on Hudson), I am good to take this roster into the season and see what happens. The NFC is pretty crappy right now so what we have this year is good enough to compete if Kyler can play like he will be getting paid. And, if he can't, we are stuck overpaying him and will be a fringe playoff team for the entirety of his contract.

Our roster issues are less 2022 and more 2023.

What sucks Chopper is that the NFC appears crappy right now and it does not appear the Cards are capable of going all out to take advantage of that for whatever reason past bad drafts and player snafus (insert D-Hop and Hudson)... oops, those are the reasons lol