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Twitter is blowing up about how unhappy players are with this.

Unfortunately, I think this is far from over.
 

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The players should have submitted some kind of agreement even close to their liking. Now if they reject what the owners approved the public is going to turn on them in a big way.
 
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The players should have submitted some kind of agreement even close to their liking. Now if they reject what the owners approved the public is going to turn on them in a big way.

I think De Smith is realizing he got outmaneuvered. They players could have done the same thing yesterday since I believe they had a conference call then. They would have all the power, instead they are in full containment mode.
 

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I think De Smith is realizing he got outmaneuvered. They players could have done the same thing yesterday since I believe they had a conference call then. They would have all the power, instead they are in full containment mode.


please explain.
 

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The players should have submitted some kind of agreement even close to their liking. Now if they reject what the owners approved the public is going to turn on them in a big way.

It was a brilliant pr maneuver by the owners. All of the pressure is now on the players to get the deal done. Not some - ALL.
 

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please explain.

For a couple of weeks everyone has been hearing how close the deal was to being done and it was all but complete. Now the players will come across as the ones who backed out of the deal and kept the lockout going.
 

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When the lockout was looming I was very much on the players' side---but---I had more than a sneaking suspicion that the players would love to make an agreement late in the process to reduce the time at training camp.

It's called the Brett Favre Show Up to TC When You Want To Syndrome.

If you look at all the concessions the owners made to the players:

1. 48% revenue share.

2. $120M cap---$106.8M minimum as long as the league spends 99%.

3. FA after 4th season.

4. 4 year rookie contracts w/ team option for 5th year.

5. Lower rookie salaries (more $ for veterans).

6. Later TCs---no more full contact for 2 a day practices.

7. OTA's reduced from 14 days to 9.

Sure---DeMaurice Smith says there are other situations such as workman's comp to agree upon---but ,really, the players made so much significant ground---if they reject this now---esp. to try to stall for another few weeks so they get a shortened training camp---I wouldn't blame the owners is they said go screw and pulled several of the compromises off the table.

The owners budged on a lot of issues here---they deserve a lot of credit for their willingness to compromise.
 
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please explain.

Really? Most of the public hears one side has agreed and then the other side doesn't agree. Who will they side with? Most of the public will not understand exactly what is happening so they just want football back. NFL owners made a great move tonight.
 

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It was a brilliant pr maneuver by the owners. All of the pressure is now on the players to get the deal done. Not some - ALL.

For a couple of weeks everyone has been hearing how close the deal was to being done and it was all but complete. Now the players will come across as the ones who backed out of the deal and kept the lockout going.

When the lockout was looming I was very much on the players' side---but---I had more than a sneaking suspicion that the players would love to make an agreement late in the process to reduce the time at training camp.

It's called the Brett Favre Show Up to TC When You Want To Syndrome.

If you look at all the concessions the owners made to the players:

1. 48% revenue share.

2. $120M cap---$106.8M minimum as long as the league spends 99%.

3. FA after 4th season.

4. 4 year rookie contracts w/ team option for 5th year.

5. Lower rookie salaries (more $ for veterans).

6. Later TCs---no more full contact for 2 a day practices.

7. OTA's reduced from 14 days to 9.

Sure---DeMaurice Smith says there are other situations such as workman's comp to agree upon---but ,really, the players made so much significant
ground---if they reject this now---esp. to try to stall for another few weeks so they get a shortened training camp---I wouldn't blame the owners is they said go screw and pulled several of the compromises off the table.

The owners budged on a lot of issues here---they deserve a lot of credit for their willingness to compromise.

Good enough for ya Cliff?

please explain.
 

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For a couple of weeks everyone has been hearing how close the deal was to being done and it was all but complete. Now the players will come across as the ones who backed out of the deal and kept the lockout going.


In the grand scheme of things who cares who is right or wrong? I really couldn't care less. All I know is that once the games are on I will watch. I really have not sweated this thing one bit. I have serious doubts that most of these players really care what you or I think if they are getting a raw deal.

I am certainly not saying that they are... I'm just not calling them f'n stupid for not agreeing to this deal.
 

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Really? Most of the public hears one side has agreed and then the other side doesn't agree. Who will they side with? Most of the public will not understand exactly what is happening so they just want football back. NFL owners made a great move tonight.

True---but look at what they owners agreed to and what they compromised. Many major wins for the players.
 

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If the players don't OK it (and soon) they are going to be seen as a whiney bunch of millionaires by the general public. (Who have a hardy time in this economy ponying up the money for a seat, a dog, and a beer.) Horrible PR if the players say no. Horrible.
 

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Good enough for ya Cliff?


So what? How does this prove that they're f'n stupid Shane? Because they haven't voted on it within minutes of the NFL voting on it. What is your reason behind saying that?

All I know is.. I wouldn't give a damn about what you thought about me getting all I can get.
 

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If the players don't OK it (and soon) they are going to be seen as a whiney bunch of millionaires by the general public. (Who have a hardy time in this economy ponying up the money for a seat, a dog, and a beer.) Horrible PR if the players say no. Horrible.

Don't tell cliff that :)
 

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If the owners are in agreement on a deal offered, does this mean that it becomes more of a strike situation than a lockout?
 

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The point I think is they aren't going for all they can get. It now looks as though they want it all.
 

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So what? How does this prove that they're f'n stupid Shane? Because they haven't voted on it within minutes of the NFL voting on it. What is your reason behind saying that?

All I know is.. I wouldn't give a damn about what you thought about me getting all I can get.

Because IMO they are. I thought you were saying that public opinion wouldnt go against them when you said "not really" was I mistaken?
 

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The point I think is they aren't going for all they can get. It now looks as they want it all.

Again. Who cares? This stuff goes on all the time. Just because they are football players and millions we are supposed to say take it and shut up?
 

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If the players don't OK it (and soon) they are going to be seen as a whiney bunch of millionaires by the general public. (Who have a hardy time in this economy ponying up the money for a seat, a dog, and a beer.) Horrible PR if the players say no. Horrible.

Imagine, Dems, if we common folk got these kind of concessions from our employers. Much of it wouldn't happen in a million years.

I could not agree with you more.

The CBA will more than likely be held up by the vast number of twinkie eating fatcats who were counting on being able to miss at least half of training camp.

These players act like going to work is such a tremendous ordeal.

Poor poor players, they are so put out...all at millions of dollars a year, as you said, Dems.
 

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Well Clif I happen to also be one of those fans and I think right now it looks like D. Smith is stupid!
 

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