OTAs start today for the Arizona Cardinals. Part Three!

[kerouac9]

It's 100% on MO

But, JB should be participating in the OTAs pending the results

He's not helping his cause and not showing he's putting the team first and foremost

He’s using the only leverage he has. The OTAs are voluntary.

 

[phillycard]

Kick the tires on a trade, if there isn't one out there, cut him now. Quit wasting time on a career backup QB who went 1-11 at the helm (and, I know, it wasn't ALL his fault but he was a PART of the problem).

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[Harry]

I believe it was Branch Rickey who told a holdout, “We can finish last without you.”

 

[BullheadCardFan]

He’s using the only leverage he has. The OTAs are voluntary.

Bad look on both sides IMO

 

[kerouac9]

Bad look on both sides IMO

It’s a business. Monti is the bigger failure here.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

if brissett is playing hardball and asking for a longer contract then i like what monti is doing - things is we don't know - we don't know if brissett just wants more money for this year or if he wants to be here beyond this year

i'd be blaming monti if i knew more

i asked an unanswered question last week

did brissett demand more money before or after we drafted beck?

if brissett demanded (i say demanded because he's holding out and not showing up) more money before the draft then yes - monti should have locked him up (unless brissett wants an extension)

if brissett demanded more money after the draft then there's not much monti could have done - not only that but the draft shouldn't have changed anything regarding brissett- if that's the case im glad monti isn't worried about re-signing brissett

i hope he isn't worried about re-signing brissett - personally - i think we know exactly who brissett is and why he's important to this team - but also why he can't be the future

brissett's angle is obvious - he fixed the offense - played really well without a running game or a defense - brissett doesn't feel he went 1-11 he thinks the cardinals went 1-11 and he might be right but if i'm monti ossenfort idgaf

if im monti ossenfort i'm not extending brissett's contract - i might pay him more for this upcoming season but i'm not talking extension until i know where this club is at the end of the year

i'm not extending brissett until i have to - truth is i don't have to - i already have a minshew who's just as good and a rookie qb i need to see at some point during this year

but either way - we don't need jacoby brissett - jacoby brissett needs us and the $5 million dollars he's due - i bet he shows up to collect that check

 

[Chopper0080]

Why? Should he just give JB what he wants to get him on the field?

We have no idea what is being asked for. It's just as possible that the Cards have offered a fair raise and JB's camp have either refused it, or are dragging their heels hoping the Cards buckle and offer more.

I'm really not concerned with him not being at OTAs (yet) throwing floaters to uncovered receivers.

Then cut him. Sitting and doing nothing is what makes the Cardinals look like clowns. If you promote a guy into a higher role and he doesn't produce, fire him. If you don't think you can afford to lose him, pay him. Either way, action resolves the situation more than doing nothing and looking like your franchise and new HC are being held hostage by a journeyman QB.

 

[Chopper0080]

Imo Brissett is justified asking for a raise. This is the FB equivalent of your boss leaving and you are asked to assume their role. Yearly reviews come around and you are asked to continue those responsibilities without being compensated. Pay the man!

Or if you don't like the production, fire him. It's not a tough situation.

 

[Chopper0080]

It's 100% on MO

But, JB should be participating in the OTAs pending the results

He's not helping his cause and not showing he's putting the team first and foremost

Why would he put the team first when they aren't putting him first?

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Or if you don't like the production, fire him. It's not a tough situation.

we can also trade brissett

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Why would he put the team first when they aren't putting him first?

didn't they literally "declare" brissett to be the first qb

 

[kerouac9]

did brissett demand more money before or after we drafted beck?

Before

 

[imaCafan]

Maybe they’re taking a bit of time to give Beck more reps to see what they have with him. Then deal with JB accordingly.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Before

thx been wondering that for a minute

 

[Chopper0080]

didn't they literally "declare" brissett to be the first qb

But they don't want to pay him like it.

And just to be clear, I think you can argue either side of paying him or just letting him go. I think the incompetence is in doing nothing.

Is Brissett worth keeping and dealing with this discourse if you aren't willing to pay him? That's the question.

 

[kerouac9]

didn't they literally "declare" brissett to be the first qb

Words are wind.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

But they don't want to pay him like it.

And just to be clear, I think you can argue either side of paying him or just letting him go. I think the incompetence is in doing nothing.

Is Brissett worth keeping and dealing with this discourse if you aren't willing to pay him? That's the question.

we don't know man - im guessing monti is down with a raise this year - brissett has earned that but would you extend brissett this year when you don't have to? especially if you don't believe he's the future?

extending brissett now would be so steve keim - brissett needs to show he can win games this year - because he hasn't shown that thru his entire career

pay him but don't extend him - definitely don't cut him - teade that ass - we can always use another 5th round pick

 

[Adrian]

You guys are killing my OCD. It's OTAs, not OTA's.

Fixed it for you

 

[Chopper0080]

we don't know man - im guessing monti is down with a raise this year - brissett has earned that but would you extend brissett this year when you don't have to? especially if you don't believe he's the future?

extending brissett now would be so steve keim - brissett needs to show he can win games this year - because he hasn't shown that thru his entire career

pay him but don't extend him - definitely don't cut him - teade that ass - we can always use another 5th round pick

Monti has 26.75 mil on the books for this year in dead money excluding Kyler Murray. What sort of dead money could Brissett want that would be more significant than what Monti already generates?

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Monti has 26.75 mil on the books for this year in dead money excluding Kyler Murray. What sort of dead money could Brissett want that would be more significant than what Monti already generates?

i don't know how much brissett is asking for but monti should pay him if it's within reason - just no extension

 

[Chopper0080]

i don't know how much brissett is asking for but monti should pay him if it's within reason - just no extension

If he guaranteed 15 mil this season and then 7 next season, it would be the same as signing Dalvin Tomlinson and then cutting him the year after in terms of dead money. Has that been detrimental in any way to this season's operations?

 

[Adrian]

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[Chopper0080]

I wish Monti had worked as hard on improving the roster as he has in trying to skimp out paying a starting QB. Just focused on the wrong things IMO.

 

[TRW]

I wish Monti had worked as hard on improving the roster as he has in trying to skimp out paying a starting QB. Just focused on the wrong things IMO.

He's really not skimping out paying a true starting QB though is he? I think the main issue, as has been stated, is that the Cardinals need to defecate or get off of the pot on this one.

 

[Chopper0080]

I mean Baron Browning's cap hit for this year is 9.4 mil. Brissett's is 9.19 mil. Browning played 50% of defensive snaps and recorded 2 sacks. Brissett played 87% of snaps, threw for 3300 yards, 23 TDs and 8 ints.

One of those players clearly produced more last year, and is the one getting paid the less this year and at a more important position. Let's not act like Monti's contracts make sense.