OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[Dback Jon]

I think the coaching staff feels the same.

The coaching staff is sick of listening to the other idiots on the coaching staff? Don't blame them.

 

[Mulli]

I don't understand this level of thinking.

You don’t understand that the Cardinals will never win?

 

[602 Native]

Anyone blaming this on K1 needs to be shot out of a cannon

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[Mulli]

Kevin Stefanski coaching tree

 

[Dback Jon]

I tossed this aside but I’m hearing the Vikes are goingto ask about Murray.

No surprise since the Cardinals have TWO QB's better than anything in Minnesota

 

[Dback Jon]

So, you mean a quality coach like Sean Payton, who openly lobbied for the job and how he'd use K1? I would honestly think a quality coach, with a great offensive mind would want to come and see if they can fully tap the potential of Murray. BA was kinda that way....he could work with someone like Luck, for sure, but he also had a thing for cast off veteran QBs (Palmer was his greatest with BA). I think someone like McCarthy wouldn't mind giving Murray a shot for a year.


I have zero opinion either way, personally...He can go or be kept. Doesn't matter to me.

Payton is winning in Denver with a QB than is worse than either K1 or JB

 

[602 Native]

Kevin Stefanski coaching tree

Only the Cards hire from Cleveland

 

[602 Native]

No surprise since the Cardinals have TWO QB's better than anything in Minnesota

K1 goes to Minny and you will see them in the NFC championship for sure

 

[602 Native]

Unpopular but true opinion

K1 has been saving JGs job since he came here. Dude is in way over his head.

 

[netsnjkidd]

Payton is winning in Denver with a QB than is worse than either K1 or JB

You sure his worse than kyler

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

murray has more talent but brissett prepares more - studies more interacts with his receivers more- just generally cares more

 

[602 Native]

murray has more talent but brissett prepares more - studies more interacts with his receivers more- just generally cares more

I think JB does have some better leadership skills but all of it is conjecture at this moment.

 

[SoonerLou]

Anyone blaming this on K1 needs to be shot out of a cannon

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I blame K1 for not going all out to convince Sean Payton to take this job. He should have been calling him every day, telling him he'd workout with Brees, convince him that Russ is a waste of time, etc etc etc

You werent here at the time, but a few here felt it was Payton or bust for Kyler's future. Especially with the knee injury. If Payton should just 5% interest he needed to go out all to convince Arizona was the place to be.

Well its been a bust the last 3(4) years.

 

[602 Native]

I blame K1 for not going all out to convince Sean Payton to take this job. He should have been calling him every day, telling him he'd workout with Brees, convince him that Russ is a waste of time, etc etc etc

You werent here at the time, but a few here felt it was Payton or bust for Kyler's future. Especially with the knee injury. If Payton should just 5% interest he needed to go out all to convince Arizona was the place to be.

Well its been a bust the last 3(4) years.

I wanted Payton in the worst way. We have never had anyone in this organization with his pedigree.

I don’t blame K1 but I’m with you in that he should have been campaigning for him. I don’t think that K1 is that outgoing and it does hurt him I believe.

Bidwill is who let Payton get on a plane to Denver so it is on him. I don’t know if Payton was even considering us or if this was just a sympathy stop.

 

[Dback Jon]

You sure his worse than kyler

Yes. He's awful

 

[IAcards]

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Does that make him the NFLs elf on a shelf?

 

[SoonerLou]

I wanted Payton in the worst way. We have never had anyone in this organization with his pedigree.

I don’t blame K1 but I’m with you in that he should have been campaigning for him. I don’t think that K1 is that outgoing and it does hurt him I believe.

Bidwill is who let Payton get on a plane to Denver so it is on him. I don’t know if Payton was even considering us or if this was just a sympathy stop.

Passive gets you Petzing.

Put it on a shirt.

 

[PJ1]

So, you mean a quality coach like Sean Payton, who openly lobbied for the job and how he'd use K1? I would honestly think a quality coach, with a great offensive mind would want to come and see if they can fully tap the potential of Murray. BA was kinda that way....he could work with someone like Luck, for sure, but he also had a thing for cast off veteran QBs (Palmer was his greatest with BA). I think someone like McCarthy wouldn't mind giving Murray a shot for a year.


I have zero opinion either way, personally...He can go or be kept. Doesn't matter to me.

You mean the Sean Payton who never came here.

 

[Stout]

We’ve had far too many injuries to have success in terms of wins and losses. The fact that we’re in almost every game is proof that we have built enough depth that the team is closer than the naysayers like yourself want to admit. We’re a young team with plenty of potential if we can somehow stay healthier. Yes, we should fire the OL coach, possibly the OC, and even the DL coach. Firing MOJG won’t resolve anything.

Still in this mode, eh?

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[Stout]

Anyone blaming this on K1 needs to be shot out of a cannon

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Yeah, poor Kyler is just an innocent bystander in the team's demise. Riiight.

 

[netsnjkidd]

Yes. He's awful

I still take him over kyler. The Broncos wouldn't swap him

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

lmk when we're mathematically eliminated from the 1st pick

 

[GatorAZ]

I blame K1 for not going all out to convince Sean Payton to take this job. He should have been calling him every day, telling him he'd workout with Brees, convince him that Russ is a waste of time, etc etc etc

You werent here at the time, but a few here felt it was Payton or bust for Kyler's future. Especially with the knee injury. If Payton should just 5% interest he needed to go out all to convince Arizona was the place to be.

Well its been a bust the last 3(4) years.

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Payton was traded for by the Broncos. The Saints got a 1st and 2nd from Denver.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

You mean the Sean Payton who never came here.

The Payton who lobied hard for the job on Cowherd, multiple times and then spent days at the facility with Michael, being interviewed? Yes, that Payton...who left and finally accepted Denver because Michael wouldn't give him what he wanted (full control).

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Anyone blaming this on K1 needs to be shot out of a cannon

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Or shot out of a Gannon!