OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[Crimson Warrior]

This was the best pass I saw this week by any QB.

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Omg that was an incredible throw. So absolutely perfect! BBQ playing out of his mind this past Sunday. lol

But he's going to change back into a pumpkin eventually Britcard. Otherwise he wouldn't be here.

 

[BritCard]

Omg that was an incredible throw. So absolutely perfect! BBQ playing out of his mind this past Sunday. lol

But he's going to change back into a pumpkin eventually Britcard. Otherwise he wouldn't be here.

I'm not sure he will. He's done what he's done with 4th string RB's and a 50% pressure rate. Also missed Marv for most of a game. Against 2 winning teams.

Hard for conditions to get tougher.

But I expect Kyler to be back for Dallas.

 

[netsnjkidd]

If kyler doesn't look good against dallas. Wonder how he handles it this would be first time in his career there will actually benching or ppl calling for a benching. If I had to guess they we he acts dont be suprised on a trade request. Dont see him as someone who would take benching make him want to work to get it back

 

[Chopper0080]

Not low. Almost the worst #1 in the league. For a guy taken with the 4th pick in the draft. Whooo hooo!!!



Cool. Why you’re not telling us tue whole story and also comparing his yardage to Nakua is a bit of a mystery.

Oh wait a second… no it’s not.



This is good.

I was answering the question I was asked. "How does he stack up on TDs?" I gave the answer.

 

[DaHilg]

So what you're telling me is that Kyler leaves the pocket when he doesn't need to?

Because if you leave the pocket due to incoming pressure it's counted as a pressure stat.

Absolutely.. he leaves the pocket too early. Zero doubt about that.

Also, the pressure metric is rather subjective. I am sure there are a few times he leaves the pocket earlier or escapes faster where a pressure isn’t counted.

 

[Mulli]

They need to play Kyler in hopes of increasing his trade value.

:ducks:

 

[Stout]

Ya you read what you posted.. that’s a false pressure rate based on Kyler escaping and leaving the pocket early. Do you not read what you post there dude? lol

...and running into sacks himself. It cuts both ways.

 

[PDXChris]

It was already game over, this just confirms it.

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The more important number is 2-3 vs 0-2.

 

[kerouac9]

The more important number is 2-3 vs 0-2.

They’re other numbers; it’s debatable how much weight we should put on Kyler “leading” the team to squeakers against the Panthers and Saints, who are a combined 4-9.

Also a loss against the 1-6 Tennessee Titans, who fired their coach a week later.

 

[Mulli]

They’re other numbers; it’s debatable how much weight we should put on Kyler “leading” the team to squeakers against the Panthers and Saints, who are a combined 4-9.

Also a loss against the 1-6 Tennessee Titans, who fired their coach a week later.

So the defense can’t or won’t stop anyone in 4th, has either QB been able to do anything at the end of games?

Sad post

 

[Brian in Mesa]

They need to play Kyler in hopes of increasing his trade value.

:ducks:

He is what he is. I think we know that and so do the other teams in the league.

 

[TRW]

They need to play Kyler in hopes of increasing his trade value.

:ducks:

Maybe they can get a can of Sprite with the bag of chips, maybe. But may have to throw in McBride too.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

we have to start murray - if we're getting benson and bam back brissett will win games

 

[PDXChris]

They’re other numbers; it’s debatable how much weight we should put on Kyler “leading” the team to squeakers against the Panthers and Saints, who are a combined 4-9.

Also a loss against the 1-6 Tennessee Titans, who fired their coach a week later.

I thought wins were the post important stat in football? No?

1-10 vs 13-17 doesn't seem like its the teams we play, but that's just me. 13-17 ain't getting it done either, but let's not pretend like Kyler doesn’t give us the best chance with what we currently have.

 

[PDXChris]

Some of you all need to step up your game! Raiders fans are killing it!

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[Adrian]

Gannon: Kyler Murray's MNF return too early to be determined

When healthy, expect Kyler Murray back in the lineup, which could come as early as Monday Night Football against the Cowboys.

arizonasports.com

 

[PDXChris]

Gannon: Kyler Murray's MNF return too early to be determined

When healthy, expect Kyler Murray back in the lineup, which could come as early as Monday Night Football against the Cowboys.

arizonasports.com

"When Healthy" for the Cardinals means he's done for the season.

 

[some dumb guy]

Aaahaaa, It just it me what's wrong with the cardinals. Does anyone notice when they show the coaches on the sideline and they have their play sheet covering their mouth? 31 other HCs have a full sized play sheet and JC has that little itty bitty 3x5 card!!
Just think how good we could be with the big size...LOL

 

[Mulli]

Aaahaaa, It just it me what's wrong with the cardinals. Does anyone notice when they show the coaches on the sideline and they have their play sheet covering their mouth? 31 other HCs have a full sized play sheet and JC has that little itty bitty 3x5 card!!
Just think how good we could be with the big size...LOL

My sources indicate he will get a new and bigger card in 2027!

 

[Adrian]

Bickley Blast: Arizona Cardinals' Kyler Murray has never been under a microscope like this

Dan Bickley breaks down what the Arizona Cardinals should do with Kyler Murray after the team's bye week on his Bickley blast.

arizonasports.com

 

[kerouac9]

Aaahaaa, It just it me what's wrong with the cardinals. Does anyone notice when they show the coaches on the sideline and they have their play sheet covering their mouth? 31 other HCs have a full sized play sheet and JC has that little itty bitty 3x5 card!!
Just think how good we could be with the big size...LOL

As funny was Kyler spotted in the sideline in the first quarter with his headphones on outside of his sweatshirt and beanie.

Zero chance he could hear the sideline chatter/playscalls.

Next time they caught him the headphones were actually on his ears.

 

[DaHilg]

Truly hope he is traded by the deadline.. this organization and Kyler simply are not a fit

 

[K1Day1]

Brissett is a journeyman QB that did surprisingly well against the 6-1 Colts and the 4-1-1 Packers.

Some of you Kyler defenders spend every week blaming everyone in the orginization but Kyler for losing.

Hell, Brissett had less weapons to work with because of injuries but was more effectively running the offense than the #1 overall draft pick that makes many more millions. Embarrassing.

From one of my previous post down below. Perhaps you should read it ! !

This is probably one of the more reasonable post that I've read today. Praising or Blaming Murray for today's loss is insane. The guy was a NON-factor.
Some are saying; " Jacoby hung tough in the pocket " or, " Jacoby threw for over 300 yards ". WHAT???? ( They Still Lost ). Some want to be RIGHT So bad that they've lost all common sense.
For those that want to Keep Kyler, something has to change ( You just can't keep thinking that the Cardinals lost but at least you like Kyler ) and, for those that want to get rid of Kyler, something else is broken with this organization other than Kyler ( You just can't keep thinking that you lost another game but at least it wasn't with Kyler ).
It's like some are missing the Forest because all the trees are blocking their view... SMH.. With or, Without Kyler Murray this season so far has been the same throughout the years more often than not

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

As funny was Kyler spotted in the sideline in the first quarter with his headphones on outside of his sweatshirt and beanie.

Zero chance he could hear the sideline chatter/playscalls.

Next time they caught him the headphones were actually on his ears.

0 self awareness.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

baseball isn't a contact sport - im just sayin