OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[kerouac9]

But at the same time, some here think we have the worst QB1 in the universe right now.

No one here thinks that.

 

[DaHilg]

This was the payoff year for the rebuild, no doubt.

But it's still to early to call 2025 a failure. It certainly looks like it can fail, but in truth, we should have won last Sunday, and we've should have at least gotten to overtime last night. It's not like we're losing 45-10.

Gannon has not lost the locker room, and there's some prospect for improvement in the starting 22 in the next few weeks.

Sigh... let's see how this plays out DaHilg.

What's the origin story for your name btw?

Gannon - he might not have.. but I have to think based on what I’ve seen Petz has lost the offensive locker room. When you see Marv crying mentally on a TD catch.. I don’t see how he would like Petz. Petz has done the opposite of what every OC and tv personality has done and let that mana confidence dwindle on its own rather force feeding him the ball as the #4 pick overall on easy plays to get his mojo going.

Season - not over but trending that way soon. If Petz isn’t fired this week, I’d love to see kyler traded to the Vikings. Just divorce this situation some how.

I am DaHilg… that’s where it’s derived from.

 

[DaHilg]

@DVontel Is K1 mid because of his limitations, he doesnt work on things to overcome his limitations or the organization has failed to work around those limitations?

Seems like the last 3 games I could give a different answer.

This is a question we all want to figure out. I don’t think we will figure it out until Kyler is gone similar to Danny Dimes.

 

[DaHilg]

Almost every All-22 you post, I key in on MHJ, and he's basically never open, or even attempting to get open lol

Or he’s open after Kyler’s already released the ball. Brit’s all 22 is the most fascinating analysis in sports

 

[DaHilg]

No one here thinks that.

1 guy does , don’t kid yourself

 

[kerouac9]

1 guy does , don’t kid yourself

Nah he’s repeatedly said he thinks Kyler is mid.

 

[DaHilg]

Nah he’s repeatedly said he thinks Kyler is mid.

That’s coaches speak for him

 

[602 Native]

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[Crimson Warrior]

No one here thinks that.

At least one poster does.. and his name rhymes with "BritCard" lol.

luff ya Britcard!

 

[602 Native]

Brilliant head coach

He was a mediocre HC until he got a QB that could actually throw the ball. You're just proving his point.

The owner drafted a guy who couldn't throw the football as a QB.

 

[TJ]

Sigh.. I know you're right. And of course I don't want to give up on my hero.

But at the same time, some here think we have the worst QB1 in the universe right now.

I know that's not true, but the passing game is so broken. So horribly broken. And we need to understand exactly why, so it can fixed.

K1 bears some responsibility, but how much? And how much is the WR room, and how much is DP? They're all culpable, I think, but we need to understand to what degree each bears the blame.

But we really can't make a change now. Not with the chance to get to 3-2 against the Titans.

I guess we just have suffer through this and hope it gets better.

He's not, but he's expendible. Seven seasons and two offenses in which he's looked mid.

Kyler supporters need to start having honest conversations with themselves about his future and potential. There's nothing that shows that he's a championship caliber QB

 

[602 Native]

He's not, but he's expendible. Seven seasons and two offenses in which he's looked mid.

Kyler supporters need to start having honest conversations with themselves about his future and potential. There's nothing that shows that he's a championship caliber QB

No hes not at all especially on this terrible team.

The only people that need to be honest here are the people that continue to think the Cardinals are a serious NFL franchise.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

kyler and 3 first round draft picks for burrows

 

[602 Native]

kyler and 3 first round draft picks for burrows

Yes lets bring in a guy who has tons of weapons, gets hurt more than he plays, and has also shown he can't elevate a crap franchise.

Burrow aint lifting this crap franchise either.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Yes lets bring in a guy who has tons of weapons, gets hurt more than he plays, and has also shown he can't elevate a crap franchise.

Burrow aint lifting this crap franchise either.

burrows is better than kyler will ever be

we've been successful with qbs better than kyler

let that marinate - let that simmer a bit - because everybody else knows it

 

[602 Native]

burrows is better than kyler will ever be

we've been successful with qbs better than kyler

let that marinate - let that simmer a bit - because everybody else knows it

Who were the offensive coaches for those QBs and one of them was the offensive coach while he was also the QB.

JG will be fired long before Burrow comes here.

He keeps Big P Brain and JG for sure gets fired after this season.

 

[TJ]

No hes not at all especially on this terrible team.

The only people that need to be honest here are the people that continue to think the Cardinals are a serious NFL franchise.

Well, Carson Palmer and Kurt Warner made this unserious franchise a championship contender; and many other unserious NFL franchises are now contenders because they made good choices about their QB position. Year seven, baby!!!

 

[ASUCHRIS]

No hes not at all especially on this terrible team.

The only people that need to be honest here are the people that continue to think the Cardinals are a serious NFL franchise.

Two things can be true at the same time:

The Cardinals are one of the worst franchises in the NFL
Kyler will never be more than a mediocre QB

 

[Crimson Warrior]

He's not, but he's expendible. Seven seasons and two offenses in which he's looked mid.

Kyler supporters need to start having honest conversations with themselves about his future and potential. There's nothing that shows that he's a championship caliber QB

Okay. I won't argue with that. Not today at least.

 

[602 Native]

Two things can be true at the same time:

The Cardinals are one of the worst franchises in the NFL
Kyler will never be more than a mediocre QB

Youll never know here so its a moot argument.

Trade K1 and lets go back to QB Purgatory.

I can't wait to see that again.

 

[602 Native]

Well, Carson Palmer and Kurt Warner made this unserious franchise a championship contender; and many other unserious NFL franchises are now contenders because they made good choices about their QB position. Year seven, baby!!!

No Warner and BA made this a championship contender. Carson was also mid without BA.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

No Warner and BA made this a championship contender. Carson was also mid without BA.

Warner had two HOFs in their prime to throw to.

What does poor Kyler Murray have?

 

[BritCard]

Almost every All-22 you post, I key in on MHJ, and he's basically never open, or even attempting to get open lol

He's not supposed to on this one. All the routes are designed to pin the Lbs and take the DBs away from McBride to give him that big window. He's just running to take the CB out.

 

[BritCard]

Or he’s open after Kyler’s already released the ball. Brit’s all 22 is the most fascinating analysis in sports

I mean, it's not mine and everyone has eyes.

 

[602 Native]

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