OT: Female reporter too smoking hot for NFL locker room

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Something tells me she has this problem EVERYWHERE she goes.. not just NFL locker rooms.


(CNN) -- The National Football League has sent a memo to all 32 of its teams, reminding players and league employees that female reporters should be treated professionally and with respect.
The note comes on the heels of news that the New York Jets team is investigating allegations of harassment by team members toward television sports reporter Ines Sainz.
The memo cites the NFL's Media Relations Playbook, which states that "by law, women must be granted the same rights to perform their jobs as men. Please remember that women reporters are professionals and should be treated as such."
Among other things, the playbook stresses that "it is important to you and this organization that you present yourself to the media in a manner and style in which you yourself would like to be received and treated."
The memo also notes that "barring individual members of the regularly accredited media ... for what is perceived as 'unfair coverage' or any similar reason is not permitted."
It is still unclear what exactly happened when Sainz, from the Mexican network TV Azteca, entered the Jets locker room last Saturday after practice but Sainz told CNN's Rick Sanchez on Monday that from the moment she entered, she felt all eyes were on her.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/09/16/nfl.women.reporters/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

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Be careful in this thread. Will keep a close eye.
 

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Both Portis and Dockett have talked about this issue. Portis with reporters that he apologized for and Dockett on Twitter.

Dockett Twitter said:
I don't know what was said to her or whatever but u just have to know u going into a TEAM LOCKEROOM, and if its that serious WOMEN STAY OUT!
 
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I find myself coming back to this thread alot...

On a side note- Are male reporters allowed into womens locker rooms?
 

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Reporters should not be in lockerrooms PERIOD; male or female. How would we like it if reporters were asking us questions after work while we took a shower and got dressed.

Its ridiculous.

Are male reporters chilling in female lockerroom after their games while the shower and get dressed.

I mean I am sure this reporter always looks at the players in the eyes only at all times.

That being said, just because she looks provacative shouldn't allow people to harass her.
 

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Hats off to Bert for keeping it in his pants?
 

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From a judgment standpoint, this issue could go either way depending on the actual circumstances (of which none of us really know unless we were actually there).

On one hand, every reporter is supposed to have equal access to the players regardless of the gender of the interviewer.

On the other hand, there's the lockerroom - filled with players in various states of undress...and in many cases totally wrung out after 60 minutes of grinding football. Some of these players may have been raised to be <fill in the blank> Shy...bashful...protective...whatever about giving members of the opposite sex a "free show." In many if not all lockerrooms, there's also the towel-snapping and bawdy give and take that's traditionally part of the football environment.

Enter the female reporter. What was it actually like? Did she have full access to the lockerroom itself? Or was there an interview-room off to the side? Were there other female reporters in that lockerroom? How were they treated? Did the reporter in question (a) deliberately act provocatively? (b) unconsciously act provocatively (i.e. the way she dressed, stood, the shake of the hair etc.)? or (c) be so well put-together so as to come across as provocative just by being there?

(Note - I've always had the impression that some female reporters are able to act professionally and earn the respect of the athletes they interview while still looking terrific).

In short - Did the players accurately gauge her intentions? Or did they get it all wrong and overreact?

All of this is pretty murky water full of nuance & guesswork and requiring a certain amount of mind-reading and social science.

Maybe the answer going forward should involve (a) some sort of consistent dress/behavior code for female reporters (that could apply equally to male reporters interviewing female athletes in their lockerrooms) and (b) creating "Off Limits" and "OK to go there" sectors of the lockerroom.
 
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She is definitely smoking hottttt in person. Pictures don't even do her justice. Donald, a-bomb and I all had the pleasure of meeting her and taking pictures with her at the superbowl. WOW!
 

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Rome had a take on this but I couldn't get through the entire thing before I had to exit my car.

Mentioned the Bicep "Strongest Arm" contest featured above with Berry, and allowing players to carry her off the field on their shoulders. She already gets special attention because of what she looks like.

He also said that she touts herself as "The Hottest Sports Reporter in Mexico". Said if you're going to promote yourself as such, you should expect that people may treat you as such.

Anyway, I just see this as a plea for media attention; she complained about being uncomfortable, then immediately after all the cameras and focus went to her, said it was all playful and joking or some such.
 

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The point is that it doesn't matter how good looking she is, men have to treat women with respect. Really a simple rule, treat every woman like you would your mom/grandmom/sister/daughter. Would you want your wife to get cat calls by a larger group of men. It would be rather intimidating and unnerving.

What purpose does it serve the men acting like this. Do they think a women would get all excited and jump them then and there?

Now if she starts doing a strip tease act then the above rules don't apply.
 

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Years ago there was an incident where a player was accused of being rude to a female reporter in the lockerroom. I'm blanking on who the player was but HBO had that Inside the NFL show on at the time and they interviewed some of the players on the team about that.

One of the guys brought up a very good point, he said the problem is they don't take into account that we are human beings. For example one player said I'm a very religious person, I'm not at all comfortable with anybody male or female in the locker room when I'm in the shower or in a towel after taking a shower. Especially so if it's a woman. there's absolutely no reason they can't wait for us to get dressed, reporters don't belong in the room until we're dressed and I can see how incidents like this happen.

Now in this case she wasn't in the lockerroom, she was on the field but it's the same sort of thing to me. There really isn't a need for the media to have that level of access.
 

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The point is that it doesn't matter how good looking she is, men have to treat women with respect. Really a simple rule, treat every woman like you would your mom/grandmom/sister/daughter. Would you want your wife to get cat calls by a larger group of men. It would be rather intimidating and unnerving.

What purpose does it serve the men acting like this. Do they think a women would get all excited and jump them then and there?

Now if she starts doing a strip tease act then the above rules don't apply.

Well here you go.. A females perspective to this..

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=hill/100914

The Jets, Ines Sainz and sharing blame
 

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The point is that it doesn't matter how good looking she is, men have to treat women with respect. Really a simple rule, treat every woman like you would your mom/grandmom/sister/daughter. Would you want your wife to get cat calls by a larger group of men. It would be rather intimidating and unnerving.

What purpose does it serve the men acting like this. Do they think a women would get all excited and jump them then and there?

Now if she starts doing a strip tease act then the above rules don't apply.
If we treated every woman like our sister, mom, etc... this race would have died off a long time ago! And if my wife walked past a construction site and was whistled at or told she was smokin hot I would take it as a compliment. Now there is a line that shouldn't be crossed (ie. asking for sexual favors) and that line is subjective to each individual.

Also in regards to Ines, she said there were two instances. One she ignored, the second one is the one that made her uncomfortable.
 

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Years ago there was an incident where a player was accused of being rude to a female reporter in the lockerroom. I'm blanking on who the player was but HBO had that Inside the NFL show on at the time and they interviewed some of the players on the team about that.

One of the guys brought up a very good point, he said the problem is they don't take into account that we are human beings. For example one player said I'm a very religious person, I'm not at all comfortable with anybody male or female in the locker room when I'm in the shower or in a towel after taking a shower. Especially so if it's a woman. there's absolutely no reason they can't wait for us to get dressed, reporters don't belong in the room until we're dressed and I can see how incidents like this happen.

Now in this case she wasn't in the lockerroom, she was on the field but it's the same sort of thing to me. There really isn't a need for the media to have that level of access.

By all accounts reports are she was on the field and in the locker room..
 

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I find myself coming back to this thread alot...

On a side note- Are male reporters allowed into womens locker rooms?
They talked about this the other night on Fox 10 with Gayle Jansen. Every league has it's policy on how much access the press has with the players in the locker room, but the policy has to apply for both men and women. After a WNBA game the press is given 15 minutes with the players in the locker room. The press is brought in, given 15, then cleared out. Men and women. The players stay in their uniforms until the press leaves. Then they strip down to their bras and panties and have a pillow fight.
 

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If we treated every woman like our sister, mom, etc... this race would have died off a long time ago! And if my wife walked past a construction site and was whistled at or told she was smokin hot I would take it as a compliment. Now there is a line that shouldn't be crossed (ie. asking for sexual favors) and that line is subjective to each individual.

Also in regards to Ines, she said there were two instances. One she ignored, the second one is the one that made her uncomfortable.

This point of view is why (IMHO) we still have a long way to go as a society/culture/species.

So the line is drawn at asking for sexual favors? Maybe if one asks in a very romantic way it would be okay.

I know you know what I meant about how to treat women.

FWIW, don't change your avatar. ;)
 

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Years ago there was an incident where a player was accused of being rude to a female reporter in the lockerroom. I'm blanking on who the player was but HBO had that Inside the NFL show on at the time and they interviewed some of the players on the team about that.

It was Irving Friar back in the day. Basically he ripped his towel off in front of the female reporter and said something along the lines of "Is this what you came in here to see?" (lol)

That was before the 24 hr news/media cycle, internet ect. Can you imagine a player doing that today? If I recall correctly Friar got little more than a slap on the wrist and just basically had to issue an apology. Today with comish Goodell he would be suspended for several games and would be made out to be public enemy #1 by the media. Look at how much attention this current situation has gotten from what basically amounted to some cat calling.
 

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Years ago there was an incident where a player was accused of being rude to a female reporter in the lockerroom. I'm blanking on who the player was but HBO had that Inside the NFL show on at the time and they interviewed some of the players on the team about that.
Lisa Olson?...link
 

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#1. This is the dumbest topic I have ever seen get so much attention.

#2. Respect. Real respect is earned, not given. Jets players should behave like men, and respectable female reporters should act AND DRESS like respectable female reporters. People in NYC don't tip the naked cowboy cause he sings well.

#3. This should go in the P&R forum before I go anywhere else with this.
 

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