OT DeShaun Watson

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Well it just can’t be true because qbs we like don’t do such things. Now Big Ben, that’s another isssue.
I lived in Tahoe when that happened, and that woman has said she made it up.
 

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Believe women.

The percentage of false allegations is like 5%.
That percentage is based off of the amount of women who admit to lying. I like the sentiment considering how big of an issue sexual assault is, I just don't think it works in practice.

I have a relative who was a therapist. She told me she had tons of women clients who admitted to her they were lying about sexual assaults to hurt men in their lives. None of those clients would show up in your statistics. I've seen women lie about their boyfriends beating them when they thought said boyfriend was cheating. People lie for malicious reasons all the time.

However with 9 accusers in Watsons case you're probably right. One of the accusations is particularly sickening.
 
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7 lawsuits now apparently 2 more on the way.

I have no idea but one of the speculations is because of Covid, NFL players weren't able to "hook up" with groupies like they have always done and people looked for different "outlets" and this may have been what got Watson in hot water.

this many cases is tough even if the whole thing is untrue when you're accused of nine it's going to take awhile to clear your name.
 

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I lived in Tahoe when that happened, and that woman has said she made it up.


Just to be clear are you saying SHE said he made it up or other people did? The woman in that case ended up in a mental institution briefly because of the whole thing. It was settled out of court in 2012. She apparently settled both with Ben and with the casino. People she worked with claimed she had bragged she slept with Ben but then none of them were willing to state that in an affidavit. She filed charges against him and 8 fellow employees she said covered it up. her lawyer said the Casino leaked the story about her bragging because they wanted to protect themselves.

2 years later he got accused again by a college student. 3 of her friends signed sworn affidavits that she had told them all the same story. But the victim told the police she didn't want to press charges because she didn't want to get dragged through the mud she was already getting harassed at school and she didn't want to deal with all the negative press so the DA dropped the charges. Her lawyer in the letter to police explicitly stated they were not saying nothing happened she simply refused to go through with it. the NFL suspended Ben because they found enough evidence to consider him having violated NFL rules.

I have no idea about Watson it's way too early to have any opinion but in Ben's case unless the woman later recanted and I can't find it, the evidence was pretty clear in his case. he actually got lucky if she hadn't named the casino and employees as well, they might have been more willing to cooperate.
 

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Believe women.

The percentage of false allegations is like 5%.
I used to help counsel people going through divorce. It was staggering how many women claimed they were sexually assaulted by their husbands just to punish them and also fabricate domestic abuse against her and the their children just to "win" in divorce even though there isn't "winning".

Like someone else said, when 9 women speak out something's amiss, but your broad stroke of just believing someone because they are a woman is ridiculous.
 

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Looks like they all have similar stories though the level of how far Watson went differs. Common threads between them: Watson wants a massage, asks for them to focus on his glutes/inner thighs, he gets a ***** and then takes off his towel and rubs himself on the masseuse.

Massage is a very popular category of porn. It's extremely common for masseuses to be assaulted. I will be very surprised if Watson isn't guilty.
 

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