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TJ's future with the Suns is in doubt. JJ's progress is clear to everyone, including TJ. I think that is why he showed up so soon to talk to Igor.

So. Who do we draft at #16? I don't think we will be making any other picks. Those will be packaged to move up or for a player.

Players I am interested in:
1. SGA
2. Collin Sexton
3. Shake Milton
4. Zhaire Smith (he is just going to be a great player, not a position of need).
5. Mitchell Robinson, depending on the workouts.

Trade up targets:
Young, Carter, Sexton, Bridges
 

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I really hope we don't trade that 16th pick unless it's move up. There's a TON of talent in this draft and we can still get a very solid player there to keep adding to this young core.

I agree. It would be cool to package it and get back into the top 10 to get Young or Sexton, but short of that, take another youngster to develop with the current core. It won't do us any harm or slow down the success of the rest of the team. The core talent of the team is still young and will need some seasoning before we can really hit the big time. Another youngster who might also develop into a potential asset won't impede anything.
 

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I like Shai and Sexton but they are scoring guards. As long as they can shoot and play good D it’s worth a shot. I think we’ll have a vet PG over a rookie.
 

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Even if the suns could move up to #12 that could be enough to help our pg needs.
 

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I expect Young may fall, though likely still in top 10. Sexton may slip out of top 10. Neither will be unattainable if the Suns can find right package and partner to move up.
 
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Sexton is a physical marvel. He is incredibly fast, agile, and strong. He just needs to be a better passer and shooter.
 

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If Sexton falls below 8 we might be able to move up to get him. All three later picks and a sweetener might do it. The question would probably be whether to sacrifice TJ... I'd go Chriss in a heartbeat. We could also absorb a pretty bad contract as the sweetener.
 

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Man, I just don't get the Sexton love. Especially not from a board that has gone ballistic in the past over point guards that can't run the point. Maybe Igor can teach him how to find his teammates, how to pass and how to shoot but that's a lot to ask.

If he's there in the teens and we can get him for 16 and 31 fine but he is not worth emptying the cupboard for. He's great at drawing fouls (at the college level, anyway) but 3.6 assists to 2.8 turnovers per game ought to scare people here a little more IMO.
 

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All of our picks (except for #1 obviously), Bucks pick, and pick a player outside of Booker and Jackson. I may protect Bender since I am still hoping Igor makes him pull his head out of his behind.
 

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TJ's future with the Suns is in doubt. JJ's progress is clear to everyone, including TJ. I think that is why he showed up so soon to talk to Igor.

So. Who do we draft at #16? I don't think we will be making any other picks. Those will be packaged to move up or for a player.

Players I am interested in:
1. SGA
2. Collin Sexton
3. Shake Milton
4. Zhaire Smith (he is just going to be a great player, not a position of need).
5. Mitchell Robinson, depending on the workouts.

Trade up targets:
Young, Carter, Sexton, Bridges

Why would TJ’s future be in doubt? JJ is the better player, but Warren would be a great scorer off the bench
 
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Why would TJ’s future be in doubt? JJ is the better player, but Warren would be a great scorer off the bench
I think TJ is one of our best bargaining pieces to fill out our starting line up. I also think he is starting caliber. I do not think he would be happy at all coming off the bench.
 
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Sexton has a great motor so I don’t like the Bledsoe comp but he is super raw.
I think this is fair. Bledsoe was very fast when he wanted to be. Be he did not want to be very much. Sexton's motor is more like Westbrook.

He is not the best distributor or shooter. That is true.
 

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I think TJ is one of our best bargaining pieces to fill out our starting line up. I also think he is starting caliber. I do not think he would be happy at all coming off the bench.

if you can play D or shoot the 3, you're not starting caliber at the 3 in this league... at least not on a good team.

I think he's the SF version of Armon Gilliam. Solid scorer who's points don't mean much in the grand scheme of things and actively hurts your D and spacing.

A great sixth man instant offense guy for a second unit, but an average at best starter because of his limitations.
 

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I think this is fair. Bledsoe was very fast when he wanted to be. Be he did not want to be very much. Sexton's motor is more like Westbrook.

He is not the best distributor or shooter. That is true.

19 pts on 13 shots is impressive though. He had a great conference/NCAA tourney.
 

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Warren signed a nice extension that is in no way a cap killer either, I highly doubt his future with the Suns is in doubt. He's played the 6th man role before and he can do it again. We could also play him with Jackson and Ayton in our frontcourt. Boston is doing that now with a combo of Marcus Morris, Tatum, and Jaylen Brown making up their 2 forward spots.
 

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Warren signed a nice extension that is in no way a cap killer either, I highly doubt his future with the Suns is in doubt. He's played the 6th man role before and he can do it again. We could also play him with Jackson and Ayton in our frontcourt. Boston is doing that now with a combo of Marcus Morris, Tatum, and Jaylen Brown making up their 2 forward spots.

Yeah, but they're able to do that on D with guys who are very athletic and very long. Warren is neither and while JJ is very athletic, he's not long like those guys.

And they're able to get away with that because all those guys can hit the three so they can still space the floor as needed. The Warren/JJ combo can't do that either.
 

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Man, I just don't get the Sexton love. Especially not from a board that has gone ballistic in the past over point guards that can't run the point. Maybe Igor can teach him how to find his teammates, how to pass and how to shoot but that's a lot to ask.

If he's there in the teens and we can get him for 16 and 31 fine but he is not worth emptying the cupboard for. He's great at drawing fouls (at the college level, anyway) but 3.6 assists to 2.8 turnovers per game ought to scare people here a little more IMO.

I'm glad you put it like that, Steve. I'm not interested in another Bledsoe! If he's also short just forget everything I said about him. I just hear strong defender and I stop thinking sometimes. Heck, I like Harrison quite a lot... he defends pretty well and he's 6'4 and he's on our roster. I'm thinking he can be our backup - and he might develope beyond that. Very scant data on him of course.
 

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Sexton has a great motor so I don’t like the Bledsoe comp but he is super raw.

I didn't have a problem with Bledsoe's motor when he was a Clipper or his first year with the Suns, that happened later AFAIC. Comps rarely get you close IMO but I think the Sexton to Bledsoe comparison works better than most of them.

I don't think Collin is the defender Bledsoe used to be. But he doesn't have 3 knee surgeries on his resume either. He's even better at drawing fouls than Eric was (and Eric was pretty good at it). He's more turnover prone and so far appears to be less motivated or less capable of getting his teammates involved. But, I'm mostly comparing veteran Bledsoe to freshman Sexton. I'd take him, I just wouldn't sell the farm for him.
 

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i agree that Warren is the key to acquiring a quality pg. the only thing he does well is score and he disappears too often. his trade value now may be as high as it's going to be.
 

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19 pts on 13 shots is impressive though. He had a great conference/NCAA tourney.

I didn't see it that way at all. In his 2 tourney games he collected 9 assists and 10 turnovers. He also went 1 for 6 from deep. Yes, his 18 free throws make up for a lot of the things he did wrong but he still did a LOT of things wrong.

And even if you call it a great offensive performance (which it wasn't), looking at his DRtg it appears he gave all of it and more back on D.
 

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