New York Giants @ Arizona Cardinals Pre Game Thread. 09/10/23-09/16/23

[RON_IN_OC]

I’m guessing when KM is released for practice we’ll have an indication of his return. I could see he will need at least two weeks of practice time before returning.

Dobbs got less than 2 weeks...Kyler only needs a few hours. Haha

 

[Garthshort]

Dobbs got less than 2 weeks...Kyler only needs a few hours. Haha

Gotta remember that one guy is an aeronautical engineer and the other guy is from Texas and played FB in Oklahoma and Arizona. I'll put him down for a couple of months.

 

[PACardsFan]

I’m guessing when KM is released for practice we’ll have an indication of his return. I could see he will need at least two weeks of practice time before returning.

Probably, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it ends up being 1 week. He’s been there the entire offseason & is a bright kid anyways.

 

[CardNots]

Probably, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it ends up being 1 week. He’s been there the entire offseason & is a bright kid anyways.

I guess the key point is we can’t even speculate on a return of KM until he is released to practice.

 

[jf-08]

I predict 40-0 Giants.

 

[CardNots]

I predict 40-0 Giants.

I wouldn’t bet against Prater.

 

[Dayman]

The O/U for Daniel Jones rushing yards at 33.5 seems really low. I put some money on the over.

 

[THESMEL]

If we have 30 Dobbs passes ro 19 Fb runs again, we will lose. Not like we were behind. Ingram needs to produce or be replaced

 

[kerouac9]

Probably, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it ends up being 1 week. He’s been there the entire offseason & is a bright kid anyways.

Maybe but you’re in the footwork matters crowd and Kyler hasn’t taken more than 20 snaps under center in the past five years.

 

[cardncubfan]

That's so 20th century.

Been smoking since 1978. I still prefer a joint, bong, or a pipe vs the dabs or whatever.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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[Stout]

I know that. I was just messing with you. I thought I threw an lol in there somewhere. I make that betting comment all the time.

Aha, gotcha So much gets lost in translation on message boards.

 

[BritCard]

Maybe but you’re in the footwork matters crowd and Kyler hasn’t taken more than 20 snaps under center in the past five years.

This is really the biggest question about Kyler in this scheme. And he hasn't been able to practice it either.

Odds are when Kyler returns this year he's not going to be great. Mainly due to injury concerns/rust but also because there's going to be a lot he's not done before. Under center/drop backs/timing are not really things he is known for. Even bootlegs and throwing on the move are not known strengths.

 

[CFLredzoned]

This is really the biggest question about Kyler in this scheme. And he hasn't been able to practice it either.

Odds are when Kyler returns this year he's not going to be great. Mainly due to injury concerns/rust but also because there's going to be a lot he's not done before. Under center/drop backs/timing are not really things he is known for. Even bootlegs and throwing on the move are not known strengths.

Does anybody know the breakdown last week of shotgun vs under center? It seemed like mostly shotgun.

Come to think of it, I don't remember seeing play action once.

 

[kerouac9]

Does anybody know the breakdown last week of shotgun vs under center? It seemed like mostly shotgun.

Come to think of it, I don't remember seeing play action once.

It was almost entirely shotgun

 

[PACardsFan]

This is really the biggest question about Kyler in this scheme. And he hasn't been able to practice it either.

Odds are when Kyler returns this year he's not going to be great. Mainly due to injury concerns/rust but also because there's going to be a lot he's not done before. Under center/drop backs/timing are not really things he is known for. Even bootlegs and throwing on the move are not known strengths.

No one can deny your concerns, even me, the biggest Murray koolaider on the board. Yes, there should be rust, yes there should be some tentativeness, and yes Murray will be having to do things he hasn’t done before. My counter is that upon his return, we will see why he’s such a special kind of athlete. There’s a reason why he’s the only athlete ever to get drafted in the top 10 in 2 different sports. And we will see how the Cardinals will put Murray in a significantly better position to succeed than what we saw during the KK era. We will see a kid who has put his heart and soul in his rehab to prove his detractors wrong. Lastly, the chip on his shoulder is getting bigger with every knock against him. Personally, I have much bigger concerns with our OL, our WR room, and our woeful RB room right now.

 

[BritCard]

It was almost entirely shotgun

And even when under center it was mostly run.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

And even when under center it was mostly run.

It's basically predictable. The few times it wasn't predictable, they had some success.

 

[CardNots]

No one can deny your concerns, even me, the biggest Murray koolaider on the board. Yes, there should be rust, yes there should be some tentativeness, and yes Murray will be having to do things he hasn’t done before. My counter is that upon his return, we will see why he’s such a special kind of athlete. There’s a reason why he’s the only athlete ever to get drafted in the top 10 in 2 different sports. And we will see how the Cardinals will put Murray in a significantly better position to succeed than what we saw during the KK era. We will see a kid who has put his heart and soul in his rehab to prove his detractors wrong. Lastly, the chip on his shoulder is getting bigger with every knock against him. Personally, I have much bigger concerns with our OL, our WR room, and our woeful RB room right now.

I hope you’re correct. I believe it’s possible but…

 

[LA Redbird]

Having been a fan since 88, I know the Cards are always a "get right" opponent for teams that are struggling or are playing uncharacteristically. Therefore, I expect Jones to have 5 total TDs and the score to be like 41-13.

Well, it didn't quite go like this, but the Cards still found a way to help a team name history.

First time a team has lost a game by 40+ points AND came from 21 behind for a win in the same season.

Gotta get in the record books somehow....

 

[phillycard]

Was I the only one who though that when Jalen didn't take that INT to the house, that it would cost us? That play STILL haunts me.

 

[TheCardFan]

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[PACardsFan]

Was I the only one who though that when Jalen didn't take that INT to the house, that it would cost us? That play STILL haunts me.

Agree 100%. If he just slowed down a bit & followed his blocks, he could have walked in to the end zone. Instead he let Jones take the angle on him. And then we settled for a stinking FG.