Murray discussion removed from the Nick Bosa injury thread

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  1. LoyaltyisaCurse

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    There is no need to name any of them. The numbers don’t lie. But feel free to use Flutie. Wilson
    75 out of ,say, 700 quarterbacks in history of the NFL QB’s have been under 6 ft tall. 5 out of those 75 have ever been starters and exactly 1 of them have won a Superbowl. That is the utter definition of an exception. But please, you guys can feel free to hang your hats on Wilson, Flutie, Lebaron and—possibly—Murray.

    Teams simply don’t waste first round draft picks on midget QBs throughout history of the league. Most <6 ft QBs are not even up to Seneca Wallace’s caliber.
     
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    Teams dont tend to draft ANY <6ft QBs.

    That's the failing of your argument.

    Not drafting isnt the equivalent of not successful.

    And there have been any QBs GREATER than 6 ft that have Murrays skill set. Hes a planet person.
     
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    So you can’t name any? Not even one? I guess that would make brees and Wilson more of the rule then, statistically speaking, no?
     
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    Teams also don't draft female QBs. Using your arguement, you can't say that it would be drafting the exception by drafting a female.

    Come on.

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    Doesn’t matter drafted or not. If the short QBs were good enough they would’ve risen to the top like Wilson.
     
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    They’re going to have to draft them soon or it’ll be discrimination. You maybe just started it.
     
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    Who knew everyone should draft 5'6 rbs like Darren Sproles because they never fail since he is the only one.

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    There’s actually been a good number of them drafted. Almost, if not, one a year.
     
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    Brees is not under 6 ft, my friend. 5 out 70 is not a rule. The vast, vast majority QBs <6 ft don’t even make a team let alone ever see the field.
     
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    I asked how many were busts. Simply name some or say “none”. It’s ok. We can still be friends.
     
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    Bottom line, Keim is chasing unicorns. Teams simply have almost never spent first round capital on <6 FT QB’s and especially a top ten pick.
     
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    Bottom line, who was the last sub-6’ QB that you saw as comparable to Murray?
     
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    Johnny Manziel measured 5'11 at the combine. Bust.

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    Hehehehehehehe. So you’re saying his height caused him to be a drug addict degenerate piece of human excrement? Good call. That’s about as good of an argument as saying Rae Carruth was a bust because of his build.
     
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    He was a bust. Quit changing the argument. BJ Daniels was sub 6'0. Bust.

    Historically speaking, sub 6'0 don't work in the NFL. Wilson worked because his skill set overcame his lack of height. Cardinals are betting Murray being similar to that.

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